j.wilder 24 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 so im new, just found this message board, and dont mean to start on a negative, but i was wondering what everyone thought about coach stan van gundy? personally he worries me a lot. he shouts generic advice all game long (a lot of times the players arent even looking at him or paying attention) and then when it gets close and we need him to inspire the team is the only time he shuts up. usually just looks scared and many times last year runs a terrible play to the wrong person. a good example from last year was the game i was at in the regular season against the boston celtics where rashard lewis made the game winning shot. the play was set up to go to vince, but vince was having a terrible night that night, so much so that people booed when he was put back in late in the game. i think they booed just because they knew it was not vince's night and they didnt want van gudny to run a play to him, and then van gundy did. it got foiled by the celtics defense then rashard saved it, but after that night i cant stop thinking "what is van gundy doing out there?". also his misuse of brandon bass last year was incredibly frustrating to me. it took him all the way till the last series of the year to realize lewis at 3 and bass at 4 is the only way to have the tough defense we need against big man teams like the celtics. starting with the first game of that series we should have moved lewis to three and played either bass or gortat or anderson at the 4 every time. also, more importantly what do you think stan van gundy needs to do differently next year with the team? what do you think the starting line up should be? what needs to change from the coaching staff next year to make us finally be that strong team that can win it all? i mean we have talent, but sometimes its knowing how to use your weapons right that can make you the best team. for example last years playoffs where the suns used zone/their bench to win games. my dream starting lineup: 1. jameer nelson 2. jj redick 3. rashard lewis 4. brandon bass 5. dwight howard the four could swap out through out the year, but i think lewis does much better at 3, his defense is weak, and he plays more comfortably at 3. 1 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shock Phantom 263 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 At this point, I think that Vince could flourish in a bench role. I think he could play more like he did in NJ, in the sense that he would be playing the role of "top dog", and the offense would run through him. He would also be playing against the other team's bench, which would make it even easier. The main reason though is that I feel that he can't coexist with Jameer, and Duhon would work a lot better with him. As for Bass at the 4, if he wouldn't blow defensive rotations on the regular, then he might be an adequate starter. However, we didn't see enough of him last year to suddenly put him in a starter's role. I'd go with: Meer/JJ/Qrich/Shard/Dwight If we got a defensive PF, we'd be unstoppable. I'd also like to see JJ play a bit of point, but his defense might make that a bad idea. To respond about SVG: he's great. I'm not worried about him at all. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew Scheeler 1 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 No, Stan is a really good coach. One of the better ones in the league definitely. We could have someone so much worse. Stan is a smart guy who makes mistakes sometimes just like every coach. Then people thinks he yells too much and panics just because Shaq called him "the master of panic", even though it ain't even true. :tmt: 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase 209 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 LoL you Panic easy eh? You'll Fit right in around here. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.wilder 24 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 if you really think stan is one of the better coaches in the league, name me one thing he did last year? what play did he run? the jameer run the basket and then throw it out to someone, the pass it to dwight, the hope vince is still good? name me one literal thing that stan van gundy did last year that was impressive? 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 if you really think stan is one of the better coaches in the league, name me one thing he did last year? what play did he run? the jameer run the basket and then throw it out to someone, the pass it to dwight, the hope vince is still good? name me one literal thing that stan van gundy did last year that was impressive? He got us to the Eastern Conference Finals. He's already better than 26 coaches in that regard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyce_1 311 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 if you really think stan is one of the better coaches in the league, name me one thing he did last year? what play did he run? the jameer run the basket and then throw it out to someone, the pass it to dwight, the hope vince is still good? name me one literal thing that stan van gundy did last year that was impressive? Since you think Stan is the problem, how about you name some better coaches we could get to replace him... I swear, the ppl that complain about Stan probably just started watching the Magic in the last year or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.wilder 24 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 i just honestly think that our biggest improvement has to be our defense. we broke a 3 point record last year, we can shoot people under the table, but right now, our defense is "oh, well we have dwight howard". we need more than that, and if its bass, or orton, or gortat, or anderson, or robinson i dont care, but its not going to be lewis, hes an amazing shooter, but terrible on defense. we need to adjust to that and worry about our 4 spot, and thats something i think stan doesnt get, i think he relys too much on dwight to do all of our defensive work. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 if you really think stan is one of the better coaches in the league, name me one thing he did last year? what play did he run? the jameer run the basket and then throw it out to someone, the pass it to dwight, the hope vince is still good? name me one literal thing that stan van gundy did last year that was impressive? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk&autoplay=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shock Phantom 263 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 so im new, just found this message board, and dont mean to start on a negative, but i was wondering what everyone thought about coach stan van gundy? Well, you already started, so you should ask for this thread to be locked. By the way, welcome to the boards. :shard: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted August 22, 2010 I think we've found someone worse than ElMayi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites