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Magic going in for Chris Paul

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magicfan83    23

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Originally posted by ezzzp:

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Originally posted by M4G1C:

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Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:

there might be a third team, but its more likely that the third team will be a nelson for picks dump.

 

that i agree with. if there is a 3rd team involved, it will be to take nelson. but that 3rd team is not going to be one of the few teams that have a realistic shot at cp3.

 

That is very narrow thinking.

 

NOLA and Orlando can make the trade without a third team. Once the other teams know they will not be getting Paul if they have a need/want for other assets they will proceed. To think that a team out of spite will not participate in a trade that brings them a player they want is not smart business.

 

Toronto and Cleveland gave Miami S/T deals - why? because once they realized they weren't getting their man they saw they should grab what they could - regardless of bitterness.

 

I can not see Portland wanting anything to do with a 3 team trade that does not include Paul for them. NY Knicks on the other hand have been aiming at Okafor for a while but where not able due to this summer's priorities.

 

Now that they are on better footing as to how to proceed, aside from making cap room for Anthony, their next priority is to secure a solid starting big man to protect Stoudemire. If and when NOLA decides to trade to Orlando, NY understanding there is no Paul, can offer to enter the trade. They can flip Curry's expiring and other players into their future center and still be positioned for a huge third contract.

 

here is just one example:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=24zfqls

 

Why would New York actually want Okafor and his contract? Melo, Anthony, and Okafor is hardly a core that inspires fear. And seriously, if New Orleans is forcing teams to take Okafor with Paul, why don't they just trade Okafor to the Knicks straight up, drastically improve their financial standing, and keep their franchise player? With improved financial standing they could feasibly put together a few scenarios where New Orleans would be competitive again.

 

New York getting involved to take Okafor and that contract makes very little sense. Isaiah Thomas isn't in charge anymore.

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JGR20_11    0

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If Orlando doesn't try to at least get Paul after he demands a trade it will be disappointing to say the least. I just don't believe Otis would be stubborn enough (I like this team) to not even try. Standing pat as is, is not the right call with a chance for Paul. Much ado about nothing, I seriously hope not, that would be stupid. Now if Stan means that because the meeting between Paul and NO hasn't taken place yet is one thing but if that is meant as were not even going to try, heads should roll IMO.

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Ryan the Magic Fan    253

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Of course Otis will try to do something to get CP3. That is probably his biggest focus right now and is keeping him up late at night.

 

Come on we all know SVG. The guy loves to laugh at how every one makes a big deal out of something that really isnt. Which right now he is exactly right. Until CP3 meets with the brass and they decide they should trade him then it really is much ado about nothing.

 

I wonder how Magic fans will react when CP3 is not in a Magic uni next season. Most likely a bunch more fire Otis threads.

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magicLA    57

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quote:
Originally posted by magicfan83:

quote:
Originally posted by ezzzp:

quote:
Originally posted by M4G1C:

quote:
Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:

there might be a third team, but its more likely that the third team will be a nelson for picks dump.

 

that i agree with. if there is a 3rd team involved, it will be to take nelson. but that 3rd team is not going to be one of the few teams that have a realistic shot at cp3.

 

That is very narrow thinking.

 

NOLA and Orlando can make the trade without a third team. Once the other teams know they will not be getting Paul if they have a need/want for other assets they will proceed. To think that a team out of spite will not participate in a trade that brings them a player they want is not smart business.

 

Toronto and Cleveland gave Miami S/T deals - why? because once they realized they weren't getting their man they saw they should grab what they could - regardless of bitterness.

 

I can not see Portland wanting anything to do with a 3 team trade that does not include Paul for them. NY Knicks on the other hand have been aiming at Okafor for a while but where not able due to this summer's priorities.

 

Now that they are on better footing as to how to proceed, aside from making cap room for Anthony, their next priority is to secure a solid starting big man to protect Stoudemire. If and when NOLA decides to trade to Orlando, NY understanding there is no Paul, can offer to enter the trade. They can flip Curry's expiring and other players into their future center and still be positioned for a huge third contract.

 

here is just one example:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=24zfqls

 

Why would New York actually want Okafor and his contract? Melo, Anthony, and Okafor is hardly a core that inspires fear. And seriously, if New Orleans is forcing teams to take Okafor with Paul, why don't they just trade Okafor to the Knicks straight up, drastically improve their financial standing, and keep their franchise player? With improved financial standing they could feasibly put together a few scenarios where New Orleans would be competitive again.

 

New York getting involved to take Okafor and that contract makes very little sense. Isaiah Thomas isn't in charge anymore.

 

NY cant absorb Okafor/CP3's contracts all at once. They would have to wait until Dec 15 for most of the contracts to be trade eligible and then they would have to trade just about every single one of their players except for Stoudemire so that the salaries match.

 

Of course if NOLA wants to wait, as I mentioned in an earlier post this would be really good for NOLA w/cap flexibility and a lot of good young talents with small contracts.

 

Okafor's contract is not ridiculous. It is 4 yr $10.5/11.5/12.5/13.5 (last yr team option) for one of the top 10 centers in the league. He is no Dwight Howard but good quality true C's in the NBA get paid that much. The only reason NOLA couldn't carry his contract is because it has horrible attendance/revenue intake as one of the smallest market teams there is and it is up for sale and dumping his contract is one of the things the new owners want.

 

For NY not only is that not a problem but they have been targeting Okafor for over a year since he was on the trade block. They currently have Ronny Turiaf as their starting center and an untested 7footer from Russian as back up. That's correct, the undersized foul out in 5 minutes non defending career back up is their starter as of now.

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

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On Saturday 24th July 2010, @Oneandonlycp3 said:

 

 

RT @drakkardnoir: I'll take character over reputation...your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are

 

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/2nl0j2

 

Saw that too... I don't think New Orleans has any chance of talking him out of his current feelings.

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