NittanyBuc 757 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicfan1961 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NittanyBuc 757 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. If the intent is to win this year and/or next year, it's worth the draft pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicLA 57 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. you really think Houston is going to give away a starter and one of their teams key emotional leaders that sets the defensive tone of their team (and has for a while now) not to mention he's affordable and a great locker room/citizen for a back up role player and a very late draft pick? cmon now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicfan1961 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. you really think Houston is going to give away a starter and one of their teams key emotional leaders that sets the defensive tone of their team (and has for a while now) not to mention he's affordable and a great locker room/citizen for a back up role player and a very late draft pick? cmon now No, Houston would not. We dont need to give a young player like JJ, Bass, Anderson for an older Battier. On the other hand, I would trade either Lewis or Carter for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NittanyBuc 757 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. you really think Houston is going to give away a starter and one of their teams key emotional leaders that sets the defensive tone of their team (and has for a while now) not to mention he's affordable and a great locker room/citizen for a back up role player and a very late draft pick? cmon now Once they realize they won't make the playoffs, or get far if they do, maybe. You never know in the NBA. That team is close to going into rebuilding mode so they may want to get rid of their older players. But I will give Rick Adelman a lot of credit for how good the team has been thus far, but I don't see their success to continue all year quote: No, Houston would not. We dont need to give a young player like JJ, Bass, Anderson for an older Battier. On the other hand, I would trade either Lewis or Carter for him. I'd trade Bass for Battier in a heartbeat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FloridianaJones 8 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. I disagree and I say this... First off - Scola and Landry bring a very similar style and skill set to the court. Ariza and Battier also are very similar. Both play the 3, focus on defense, good contributors but not focal points on offense. They are in the position to pick on of each of these guys and upgrade some other places. The focal point of this trade for Houston is Gortat, a 7ft, a guy who could very EASILY be a starter in the league, although I agree he is not yet proven for a long stretch (though he has proven himself in the 3-4 games he started for us). Yao Ming is not coming back and playing starters minutes ever again. So they trade an expiring guy in Scola for a long term 7ft to pair with Landry. Battier is a 31 yo and worth giving up since they spent a good amount of money on Ariza this summer who will get majority of the minutes at the 3 regardless. Houston isn't crazy about trading McGrady's expiring unless its for a big all-star. His expiring really is a guaranteed BIG free agent signing this off-season. They've got time too. Aaron Brooks, Ariza and Landry are only going to get better and are all very young. They know they aren't going to beat the Lakers this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FloridianaJones 8 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 just to add to my trade fantasy/idea... Scola can play back-up minutes at C and did guard Gasol/Bynum when they played the Lakers last year. Very capable of picking up the 10 mins that Gortat would give up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBchMagicFan 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by Magicfan1961: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp:There is no way Houston gives up Battier or Scola. They are sitting on Mcgrady's 25 million expiring contract. Why would they weaken their team by trading away two (very affordable) starters for three back ups - regardless of how great we magic fans value JJ. Plus Gortat and Bass have both weakened their value considerably. If anything Houston trades McGrady's expiring for a quality PF like Bosh (whose from Houston) or Boozer. Specially with Scola's contract expiring this summer. Yao is scheduled to return next season also, so why would they go into a situation where they're going to pay Gortat's $ for a back up. We really would have no need for Scola if we kept Bass, Ryno, and Lewis. Battier could definitely be pried from Houston in return for, say, a role player and draft pick Magic would be stupid to give up another draft pick. you really think Houston is going to give away a starter and one of their teams key emotional leaders that sets the defensive tone of their team (and has for a while now) not to mention he's affordable and a great locker room/citizen for a back up role player and a very late draft pick? cmon now No, Houston would not. We dont need to give a young player like JJ, Bass, Anderson for an older Battier. On the other hand, I would trade either Lewis or Carter for him. You realize contracts have to match right? Lewis in untradeable and VC well nobody wants him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR_D12Magic 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2010 Boozer is not unattainable like everyone says. We can still pull off a trade that lands him and keeps our core players in place. Trade Machine Approved. Out Orlando: Gortat, Bass, Redick, Foyle Utah: Boozer, Kirilenko, Matthews Houston: McGrady, Dorsey In Orlando: Boozer, Matthews, Dorsey Utah: McGrady, Bass, Foyle Houston: Gortat, Kirilenko, Redick This trade happens with Utah agreeing to release Foyle so we can pick him backup. Utah gets a solid backup PF and the big expiring contract to get them under the cap. Houston gets the big Center they need, a solid SF, and a shooter of the bench. Orlando gets Boozer, enough said. Depth chart: PG: Nelson, J-Will, Johnson SG: Carter, MP, Matthews SF: Lewis, Barnes PF: Boozer, RA, Dorsey C: D12, Foyle (resigned) Boozer can play the C when D12 goes to the bench. It Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Penny Hardaway's Ghost 260 Report post Posted January 15, 2010 Orlando & Washington GET IT ON! Orlando sends:: Rashard Lewis/Marcin Gortat/2 future 1st rounders/full TPE Orlando receives: Caron Butler/Brendan Haywood/DeShawn Stevenson/Mike Miller Nelson/Williams/AJ VC/Redick/MP/Stevenson Butler/Barnes/Miller Anderson/Bass Howard/Haywood that's right, I take drugs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 50 Report post Posted January 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:Orlando & Washington GET IT ON! Orlando sends:: Rashard Lewis/Marcin Gortat/2 future 1st rounders/full TPE Orlando receives: Caron Butler/Brendan Haywood/DeShawn Stevenson/Mike Miller Nelson/Williams/AJ VC/Redick/MP/Stevenson Butler/Barnes/Miller Anderson/Bass Howard/Haywood that's right, I take drugs... the nba would have to implement a new rule that would allow teams to play with 2 nba basketballs on the court during a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
