noypi_magic 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2009 As what has been stated on the Power Forward thread that the backup point position is in greater need of an upgrade. some ideas? is jeryd bayless a pg? he needs some pt.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...2~22~19~19&te=&cash= acie law? wasnt he suppose to be the hawks pg of the future? where has he been? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...teams=1~19&te=&cash= mike james? nice scorer off the bench.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...s=27~27~19&te=&cash= the return of diener? we all did like him when he was here, just no pt.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...s=11~11~19&te=&cash= luther head? good shooter.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...0~10~19~19&te=&cash= bobby jax? good veteran help, but pricy.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...3~23~19~19&te=&cash= and yeah almost all the trades require us to give them bogans. can also be switched for redick^^ any other ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noypi_magic 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2009 As what has been stated on the Power Forward thread that the backup point position is in greater need of an upgrade. some ideas? is jeryd bayless a pg? he needs some pt.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...2~22~19~19&te=&cash= acie law? wasnt he suppose to be the hawks pg of the future? where has he been? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...teams=1~19&te=&cash= mike james? nice scorer off the bench.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...s=27~27~19&te=&cash= the return of diener? we all did like him when he was here, just no pt.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...s=11~11~19&te=&cash= luther head? good shooter.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...0~10~19~19&te=&cash= bobby jax? good veteran help, but pricy.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...3~23~19~19&te=&cash= and yeah almost all the trades require us to give them bogans. can also be switched for redick^^ any other ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noypi_magic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 ive added some more. earl watson. probably he is now available, good distributor. too pricy i think http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...s=25~25~19&te=&cash= kirk hinrich? doubtful, but i can still dream^^.. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...~4~4~19~19&te=&cash= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no_ma'am 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 all those names except diner and law (who has been really unimpressive) would be upgrades imo. James is a ballhog, but he would still be better than AJ. We should also inquire about what milwaukee would be looking for in exchange for Sessions. For some reason, they are willing to trade him. If i were them, i would definetly keep him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noypi_magic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 has acie law really neen unimpressive? i havent seen him play but imo he hasnt been able to get any pt with flip murray and speedy before him. he can really get that playing time here.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FENDI 4 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 I think acquiring hinrich would be a good move, it gives us a deep bench. But Nelson is so much better not having someone with something similar to his talent around. On the other end however, I really wish we could acquire Sergio, more than anything. And I don't think we'll even make a trade not unless it involves us getting expiring contracts, just me, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hi-Top 791 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 Nelson has been let off the leash, freed up to play his game, without anyone trying to force him into a playing style he isn't comfortable with, and without having to look over his shoulder and wonder if someone is challenging him for playing time. It's a difficult balance to find someone good enough to play the back up role, but humble enough to take the little bit of backup minutes left after Jameer gets the lions share. With Jameer playing the way he is, I doubt you would ever see Otis and Stan move to another lineup where we are splitting the PG minutes fairly evenly between two players. That's why AJ is a good backup for this team right now. He is a solid vet, nothing flashy. He isn't going to really push the tempo, he isn't going to wow you with Carlitoesque passes nor upset you with mental mistakes (stupid turnovers etc). Combine that with the ability for Hedo and Lee (somewhat) to also being the ball up the court, and I think the need for a backup PG is near the bottom of the list. For those reasons, I think a lot of the suggestions here wouldn't work. Diener would be an okay fit, but would you trust him running the team? Guys like Watson and Hinrich would hate the position they were in, and guys like Jackson are fan favorites for their team, no way they get traded for trash. A guy like Bayless isn't going to get playing time to develop into a PG here. Lee is getting minimal time to work that angle, why trade to give that to someone else? No way the Hawks trade anyone to the Magic. I am as certain of this as I am that we wouldn't trade JJ to Boston. Why help the team you are trying to pass get better? I think a more likely solution would be to see who is out there as a free agent that we could pick up without trying to pawn of players other teams don't want or pieces Otis isn't willing to move. Anyone know who is sitting out there waiting for a phone call? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jareth Cutestory 678 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 Jason Williams? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Anderson 4 President 9 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 quote: Originally posted by echo4papa:Nelson has been let off the leash, freed up to play his game, without anyone trying to force him into a playing style he isn't comfortable with, and without having to look over his shoulder and wonder if someone is challenging him for playing time. It's a difficult balance to find someone good enough to play the back up role, but humble enough to take the little bit of backup minutes left after Jameer gets the lions share. With Jameer playing the way he is, I doubt you would ever see Otis and Stan move to another lineup where we are splitting the PG minutes fairly evenly between two players. That's why AJ is a good backup for this team right now. He is a solid vet, nothing flashy. He isn't going to really push the tempo, he isn't going to wow you with Carlitoesque passes nor upset you with mental mistakes (stupid turnovers etc). Combine that with the ability for Hedo and Lee (somewhat) to also being the ball up the court, and I think the need for a backup PG is near the bottom of the list. For those reasons, I think a lot of the suggestions here wouldn't work. Diener would be an okay fit, but would you trust him running the team? Guys like Watson and Hinrich would hate the position they were in, and guys like Jackson are fan favorites for their team, no way they get traded for trash. A guy like Bayless isn't going to get playing time to develop into a PG here. Lee is getting minimal time to work that angle, why trade to give that to someone else? No way the Hawks trade anyone to the Magic. I am as certain of this as I am that we wouldn't trade JJ to Boston. Why help the team you are trying to pass get better? I think a more likely solution would be to see who is out there as a free agent that we could pick up without trying to pawn of players other teams don't want or pieces Otis isn't willing to move. Anyone know who is sitting out there waiting for a phone call? I agree with you Echonator. It's such a tough balance trying to find that backup for Jameer that wouldn't take his shine and possibly make SVG think about moving Jameer to the bench. I've been pushing hard for Sessions, I believe he brings a different skill set to the PG position than Jameer does. Sessions is more of a true PG, a passer first, which would really balance Jameer's shooter first mentality. Plus Sessions is still very young and could develop with the team for a long-term stay. Add to that, Sessions is apparently available. However it seems that the Bucks want another PG to replace him, which we don't have to trade. Maybe it could be something along the lines of Bogans or JJ and a 2nd rounder. I don't know, making a deal for Sessions is so difficult since he makes such a small salary this year (less than 1 mil). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Anderson 4 President 9 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Jason Williams? lol I'd actually take him over AJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 Sorry guys. Didn't look to see if the thread had been created. Again ... One guy I think Otis could obtain and probably is watching is the former Geiko Lizard, Mr. Tyronn Lue. He ain't special, he ain't pretty, but he is an experienced, high energy, shooting pg. KITNO, tell me I'm wrong. Bogans and 2nd for Lue: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?playe...eams=15~19&te=&cash= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmackDaddy 30 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 Jason Williams and Darryl Armstrong are still available as free agents aren't they? Well, JW would have to negotiate a buyout, but Darryl is out there without a team I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
