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  1. Justin Jaudon

    Draft day thread

    If this happens I'd be happy, because it would mean one of two things. 1) management saw something that makes them think Trae can improve defensively, or they think he's so good offensively that he's worth it; either way it's encouraging, because this management staff doesn't seem to overvalue offense. 2) We're trading with Atlanta for Doncic (I would run through the streets with joy [and promptly pass out, because my fat ass is out of shape]).
  2. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I don't know how you could be anything but glowing about Trae's offense, unless you're really that concerned about his TOs (you shouldn't be; he was a freshman asked to maintain a 35+ Usage Rate). He's probably never going to be super efficient, but offensively he's got everything you want from a PG. the question is whether he can be good enough defensively so that his offense can make him valuable as a starter. There's reason to believe it can't be, but that's possibly unfair. We'll see.
  3. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I don't know his game that well. What are the odds he's a more efficient shooting Elfrid Payton? I've heard he's kind of passive, defensively, is the issue. I don't want a passive PG ever again. Maybe I'm still traumatized from years of watching Elf not fight through screens despite being one of the bigger PGs in the league; but I can't go through that again.
  4. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Yeah, bad defensive Jameer is always overstated. He was below average defensively, but not awful. And from '05 to '12, his prime, he was very good offensively. Solid efficiency, very efficient passer (he was always an underrated passer, because Stan ran a system that is more like today's systems, where no one player dominated the ball). No real holes in his game. We could have won a title with him, if some things had gone differently. I still think we might have if we hadn't blown it up because some guys got the flu.
  5. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I hope this is true. Though also I hope we're not trading with either unless it's for Doncic. I just don't think Bamba or Jackson are quite good enough to move up for. Though, I suppose if all it takes to move up to 4 for one of the two is 6, Biyombo (or even Fournier, really) and taking Parsons back, that's not so bad. I just happen to be one of the few who likes Carter as much as either Bamba or Jackson (though I understand the argument putting them on a slightly higher tier).
  6. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Sure. Of course. If all it takes to get down to 3 is 6 and the OKC pick I might do it for Jackson. OKC pick isn't worth much. But 6 and our pick next year, even protected, I wouldn't do for anyone but Doncic or Ayton. I like JJJ; but lack of production means something, even if it doesn't mean everything.
  7. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I don't think we will trade for 3 to get JJJ. Nor do I think we should. This is a two stars draft, at this point (obviously we don't know how it will turn out in the end). I think the distance from JJJ to Carter as prospects, respectively, is not enough to trade up. JJJ could end up a much better player than Carter, true. But Carter is a safer bet to be a two-way player who does a bit of everything, so there's not as much of a leap from Carter to JJJ. Carter to Doncic is a different story. Doncic has Carter's safeness and JJJ's upside. He's just a better prospect than JJJ.
  8. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I doubt it. Hated the last one, though I get why my kids liked it. It was a big popcorn movie with dinosaurs and Chris Pratt being funny. But it was also a remarkably stupid plot. If they wanted a good movie they would have made it about the British assistant who was watching the kids, rather than the neglectful idiot whose fault it all was and the somehow thinner Owen/Pratt character. But a guy leading raptors on a motorcycle through a jungle looks cool, so...
  9. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    All that said, I really wish that damn movie were coming out next week.
  10. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    If picks actually start at 7, that's great. Should be able to watch our #6 (please actually be #3!!!) pick before the movie starts. As for telling my wife that: other times, I probably would have. But sometimes, as a father and a man, you just have to do the family thing. It's just been a while since I've made one of those little sacrifices of what I want, and that's what marriage is about, you know. The good thing is I know my wife doesn't take that for granted, and neither do my kids. The wife appreciates stuff like that, sees that I put family before myself. That's important to a relationship. As for the kids, they get to see how a father should act. They know I'd rather watch sports, and when I choose them instead it shows them that they're more important than my preferences. For them, going to Jurassic World on opening night is a big deal, one that only happens once ever. I don't need to hear all the pundits talk, chat with you all here about it, and all that jazz. I'd like to, but really I just want to know who the pick is. Hopefully it comes in before the previews are over; otherwise I have to wait 2 hours longer than everyone else to hear who we drafted.
  11. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    LOL! I probably wouldn't enjoy the movie anyway, but yeah.
  12. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Seriously, sometimes family sucks. I love my wife and kids, but somehow I got roped into Jurassic World at 8 PM tomorrow night... What time will the picks actually start?
  13. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I would lose my mind. Doncic is just incredibly skilled, with exactly the right intangibles. Fearless, focused when the game is on the line, comes up big in big games...if teams other than Phoenix pass on him they'll regret it.
  14. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Don't be that guy.
  15. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I'm not sure what's hard to understand. As a team with limited tradeable assets, this is exactly what we should be doing; taking on bad contracts for assets. It's using what we have, which is the ability to be patient (because we don't really have a choice). If someone wants salary relief or to get out of a bad contract, we should pounce on that. We would need to throw in a future pick because it's not some random first rounder we're asking for, but the 4th pick. Teams just don't give away the 4th pick. It's good for us because Parsons doesn't hurt us at all. So we're trading some combination of Fournier/Vuc and Ross/Mack for the surety of the 4th pick against whatever next year's pick will be.
  16. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I think if we could get 4 and Parsons for Vucevic/Fournier, Ross, and a top 3 protected 2019 first-rounder, I'd be ecstatic. I would do either one, depending on what Memphis wants. If they just want cap relief, give them Vuc and Ross. If they want some cap relief and some talent, give them Fournier and Ross. Either way, it works for me. Think of it this way: If they want total cap relief (Vuc/Ross), they get that plus a likely lotto pick next year, though probably not as good as what they're giving up at 4. That's a great deal for them, if cap relief is something they value. If we're starting Isaac and two rookies next year, we won't be a playoff team by any stretch of the imagination, so the 2019 pick should be good. This takes all of Parsons' contract off the board for the cost of delaying a lotto pick one more year and (probably) dropping a few spots in the draft. Plus Memphis would have two expendable expiring contracts to trade off again at the deadline if they can (not that they could get much, but maybe a contending team would throw you a late first for Vuc if they really need scoring and rebounding off the bench). If they want Fournier instead to try and make a good showing of it next year, then they get about $6 million in cap relief after Ross comes off the board next off-season, plus a solid wing on a fair contract while still getting a lottery pick from us in 2019. Looks great from their standpoint. You basically gave up 4 and saved $6 million for Fournier and likely somewhere in the 6-10 range of next year's draft. We could even suck bad enough that they get 4 again next year. From our standpoint, if they want cap relief/Vuc (better for us): We just got the 4th pick in the draft for two expiring mid-level players and a future pick. Vuc and Ross are not long-term guys here (at least, I don't think so). So even if we end up sucking bad enough, end up giving them the 4th pick next year, we used Vuc and Ross to expedite our rebuild by a whole year. Not a bad trade. Imagine building around Luka/Isaac/Gordan/Carter, with Fournier as a super sixth man. Or a lineup of Young/Fournier/Isaac/Gordan/JJJ/Bamba, for the Young fans. If they want Fournier, from our standpoint (not as ideal, but really still worth it): We just got the 4th pick for Evan Fournier, an expiring wing, and a future pick. Again, even if we end up giving them the 4th pick next year, we expedited our rebuild a full season for the price of an offense-only wing and an expiring contract. My dream scenario, we do this trade: Parsons/4th for Fournier/Ross/2019 top 3 protected first. Top three picks are Ayton, Bagley, JJJ. We pick Luka with the 4th. 6th pick, we take Carter. Later, we make this trade: Vuc/35/41 for Meyers Leonard/24 (Portland gets out of Leonard's deal and gets a valuable backup/expiring contract plus two early second-rounders for the 24th pick; no-brainer for them, really). We take Aaron Holiday (3 and D PG, short but with good wingspan) at 24. We have great young core of Holiday/Luka/Isaac/Gordon/Carter/maybe Hezonja. Still have decent vets like DJ, Simmons, Parsons, and Biyombo to form a solid bench, and provide leadership without taking too many of the the young guys' minutes. In 2020, we get $53 million in cap relief, just from Parsons/Leonard/Biyombo, all at once, to re-sign guys and help make up for any busts in that group. Damn. Can I be the GM?
  17. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Yeah, I think you have to take into account the way Houston plays offense. They thrive on exploiting created mismatches in isolations. Harden and LeBron on the same team means you have two incredible iso scorers in an offense that looks for great iso scoring. As long as Harden and LeBron also commit to being capable catch-and-shoot guys for each other when necessary (which Bron did pretty well when he played with Wade), I don't see that much of a problem.
  18. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Vuc with good D would be a borderline All-Star. The guy has proven he can score 17-18 per on pretty solid efficiency and pass very well for a big. The problem is he's not quite a good enough scorer to make up for being one of the worst defensive bigs in the league (total inability to defend PnR). So he's a negative overall. Plus he plays the most important defensive position, which makes his poor defense even more of a problem. If he were a guard, with the same offensive positives and defensive negatives he would basically be Fournier, a guy you can get away with starting by hiding him on D. But you can't hide a bad defensive 5 in the modern NBA; so Vuc, thus, should not be a starter in the league. Give him just good defense, and it changes all the math on him. Instead of being a good offensive player and terrible defender, he's then a guy who gives you a bit of everything. A good defensive Vuc is basically Horford, but probably a better rebounder.
  19. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    I don't think that would matter. He's Closer to Ainge than Dennis Johnson, as far as career impact. Solid pro, good career, one All-Star game, won championships with an All-Time great team; but no one really thinks of Ainge as a HOFer (I mean as a player; he's putting together a HOF career as a GM), just like no one will really think of Iggy that way.
  20. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    I think the assumption whenever you talk about guys going into their prime is that they will continue for a few years more at current levels.
  21. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    I tend to agree with you on Green, actually. I just acknowledge that we are probably in the minority there. Green may well prove it. He'll have to fix his shot. The thing about Green is that (when his shot is falling) he's a DPOY level defender while also a decent offensive player. That's HOF, if he keeps both of those things at the same high levels over a long career. Whether he seems likely to be able to do that is debatable.
  22. Justin Jaudon

    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Huzzah!
  23. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    I'll give Bron this, though: that championship over the Warriors exceeds any individual championship Jordan won. 73-win team, three HOF players, HOF coach, 3-1 lead, all on one side. LeBron and Kyrie on the other. *****ing epic.
  24. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Warriors? Definitely. Thunder and Spurs? No. That first Spurs team that swept LeBron was up there with anybody MJ beat. The Spurs team LeBron beat? That's like MJ's weakest win (Lakers). And he followed that up by getting slaughtered by that team the very next season. That's like if MJ had lost to the Lakers with Magic Johnson, except Magic and Worthy weren't as over-the-hill yet as Duncan/Parker/Manu (well, maybe Worthy). Over-the-hill Duncan, over-the-hill Parker, over-the-hill Manu, not-yet-there Kawhi; losing to the Mavs is like if MJ had lost to Portland, but three years older Portland. Also if instead of Pippen and Grant, Jordan had Pippen and Barkley. LeBron lost to two of the weaker championship teams in recent memory (only 2004 Detroit compares, really), and he lost with what was supposed to be an unstoppable super-team of 3 HOFers (yes, Chris Bosh was a HOFer before the injuries, AKA when he played with LeBron). That Thunder team consistently got beat by an over-the-hill group in San Antonio and a mediocre Grizzlies team. They were babies when LeBron beat them; Harden wasn't even a starter yet. In essence, MJ beat the 90's version of that Thunder squad when he beat the Magic in 96. Answer me this: how many HOF players did it take to win LeBron 3 championships? How many for Jordan? LeBron played with 3 guys who are likely HOFers; Wade, Bosh, Kyrie. You can argue with Bosh as a HOFer, but only due to the shortness of his career due to injury. If Bosh isn't a HOFer, neither is James Worthy. Kyrie? he's young, but unless his career trajectory changes drastically, he's a HOFer. And he played like one in that Warriors series win for sure. Wade is obvious. Jordan won six championships with only one real HOFer beside him. Someone really has to explain to me how Rodman is considered a HOF player. Yes, he was a HOF defender and rebound-er. But as an all-around player, he was just above average. His offense was absolute garbage. Rodman is a HOFer like Ben Wallace is a HOFer. Answer me this: how many HOF players has LeBron beaten in championships? How many Jordan? LeBron beat some great players. Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Duncan, Parker, Manu (I guess), Curry, Thompson, Dray (debatable, but we'll give him this for now). 9 HOF guys; pretty darn good. But looking at it closer, Harden wasn't even an All-Star yet, and Duncan, Parker, and Manu were none of them in their primes, and two of those guys are very debatable as HOFers even in their primes. Durant and Westbrook were very young when LeBron beat them. Draymond Green is probably not really a HOFer, but he's certainly close enough). Jordan beat Magic, Worthy (yes, he was on that Lakers team, and he was still really good, as in still All-Star good), Drexler, Barkley, KJ (yes, if you're too young to know, KJ was a HOF level player), Tom Chambers (if we're going to count old Manu, we have to count old Chambers), Gary Payton, Kemp, Malone, Stockton. 9-to-10 in favor of Jordan. Taking out the questionables (Harden, Manu, Dray for LeBron, Chambers for Jordan), it's 6 to 9. Now further take away the over-the-hill HOFers who weren't really at that level any more (Duncan, Parker for LeBron; Worthy for MJ), and it's 4 to 8. Now, how many HOFers have beaten LeBron in a finals? Jordan? lol
  25. Justin Jaudon

    2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    This is the worst "LeBron is better than Jordan" post I've seen in a while. LeBron only favorite for 2 finals? Every year in Miami he was the favorite. And how does him not being a favorite to win make him better than MJ? Please do explain that logic. MJ didn't play against anybody? The East was a gauntlet back then. Pistons, Knicks, Magic, Pacers, plus Hornets, Heat, etc. Played against prime Drexler/great supporting cast in Portland, Barkley/KJ, Payton/Kemp, Malone/Stockton in the West. Players are bigger now? Okay, so I guess that means Wilt was garbage, by that logic. Seriously, go sober up.
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