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I can't check. I am at work. I think his win share was in the negatives

I will leave mo alone for a few games. I waited for 10 plus game. Some people really like his d for some reason. I don't. He doesn't pass the eye test. I will try to watch even more over the next few games. Maybe I am wrong.

I will watch for this good to great defense next game. I just don't see the impact as consistently as you. He is the only rotation player that makes me cringe when playing. I watched the last game 3 times and I missed what you are talking about. I'll pay more attention.

It is situational as well. Post play vs wing play. Off ball vs on ball. Live dribble vs killed dribble. So if mo is on the ball with live dribble wing than you can dont have highs. It is more mid hand and Hands are pumbs up and out to the SIDE to get into passing lane, but if you are off ball like mo is he needs to be high and wide. Be big in the paint. Active in and out of the lane. Hands ready for blocks. It does matter the situation. Not all defense i best hands up. Mo just plays a position were it is done more than a wing vs the dribble.

but it is high hands. not just sticking your hand out. High hands to prevent rip through and cheap calls.

good point. I guess my issue is more that he came in as a defender. When vuc had more problems on defense, he still did other things to be effective like rebound and hit shots. He was never labelled a defender. Mo was labelled a defender coming out. therefore, Mo was suppose to bring defense as a starting point and I am looking for it. I think that maybe my issue.

That is what I mean. He has played too long not to know that by now.

Basketball IQ is different than just pure intelligence. To me he is not a dumb person. He just does not have the best basketball IQ. Just because you speak well and are good at math does not mean you are good at science. You can still have strengths and weaknesses. Mo has a beautiful personality, speaks well, and carries himself great. I really do hope things turn around. I do understand reaction time as well, but it does not take much to sprint down the court. That is not reaction time, that to me is more desire and hard work. I guess it is just me. I dont really see him playing with a fire at all- even in moments when he does not have to think. Has did it one game and he played well. It was, to me, the only good game he has had this year. One reason it seemed that Mo has bad reaction time is because of his defensive posture. Being out of position and game understand is another reason too, but If you play with your hands down and not up, it slows your ability to react or get steals and blocks. You can not do that in this league. Players are too good, quick and fast. People said my thoughts were meaningless and hyperbolic, but there is a reason they say hand down man down in the league. You need to challenge shots and have active hands to stop people - especially with Mo's height and length. If he does not use his length, what good is it? To me it is an easy fix. Watch Vuch play. When he started to keeping his hands up on defense he got better. Sometimes, with technique, you can also improve.

ok agree to disagree. But it does not seem like energy.

I can. but there needs to be a minimum standard. Give me a little effort.

Example I never complained about mario hezonja cause he gave effort. He made dumb plays and was the 5th pick in the draft.But I never thought he did not want it. He just did not have it. There was a difference. With mo, it is the first time that it I really have an issue with play. It does bother me and agian, I will remember this topic and the plus player comments and the support for mo. How wrong my comments are and far fetched and off i am. It reminds me of the smackdaddy days and the nice days. I have been here while. When I tell that I have not really had an issue with a players much It does mean something. I want to be wrong. Maybe Mo bamba is a bad dream and I did not see what I have been seeing. Maybe I will wake up next game and he is really the + 7 player that win talking about. Hopefully I am wrong with everything I am saying. We will see on Wednesday.

Am I drunk, because Mo is bad... Your the one saying he is a plus player. That is what your eye see... Are you drunk?.... I will give you the win and let you have today... the black eye roll got me.... I just want players on the court that want to play like Khem, fultz, and wes... I dont really have an issue with alot of players. You can check my history. I have an issue with what I see on the court. But you can have him and all of his mins. When I see him next, I promise, bad or good, I will remember this topic and you... Black eye roll

but my whole comment was not exaggerated. He is not good. But I will let you all have the black eye roll... https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bambamo01.html Mo Bamba for the win....

you cant hurt me with a brother looking at me... That my peoples..

it is visual. even my 11 old son can see how bad he is playing. (You lost some points in my book.) My son said, what is Bamba doing, Dad. I just shook my head and said." son, I dont Know why he is in the game. He was the 6th pick." Personally, he is the chris duhon and the Jerian grant on the roster. But let me get this right, it is my analysis that is the problem? I see. He would be the starter for you over vuch. You are one of those people? I will let you to continue to think he is good. Because it is only hyperbolic in what I am seeing. He is really a dominant force on the court because he is +7. He is the reason we are winning.He has all the tools, fundamental, and the skills to be a force on the court. I am the crazy one... Some people are just hard to reason with... I can admit when I am wrong. This is not one of those times.... Hyperbolic... Haaaa.... Vince carter wince face.... Please... BTW, I dont mind playing Fultz, Birch, or Wes Iwundu. They are all new player we are developing. Birch has only played in 96 games. I have an issue with what I see on the floor. Point blank.

What the hell you are talking about. calm your nerves. did you miss the ("I am somewhat exaggerating"). And it was also courney lee that also played better than jj as well.... and... I think you missed the point.... My point was that you need to have a system that does not reward for bad play. If he is playing that bad, he needs to know about it. You cant have players killing the team. It is not fair to anyone on the court. I know he is your boy and all, but dang. His game has not be worth the energy of your wrath... Control yourself, he is not currently worth it. If he is the allstar you think he is.... I will one day tip my hat, but he has a long way to good brotha.... A long way to gooo...

personally, I never called him dumb. I know he is smart. That why I think it is lack of effort and lazy. My kid not studying can be called lazy. Not put time in your craft. Could be called lazy. Additionally, giving up layup, allowing teams to get offensive put backs, giving up turnovers that result in fast breaks, and reaching fouls can lose you games. Ask the coach how important fouls are to him. They do upset me. I do think his play can lose us games in the future.

ok

We can be patience in a lot of ways. PT is also earned. The funny thing is - he played better last year. It has hard to believe he regressed. He took a whole 4 months to take notes and to follow the games and learn with the coaches. How are you worst than last year? How do you not know plays and rotations? This is your second season. At the very least run, jump, and give me some energy. You only got 13 mins. Give me something. Give me Anything!!! Does he need to lose us games before people understand the game can be the difference of a few plays. It does not take much to lose a game. His 13mins are important. I want him to understand his value. He does not play like he cares. Please, dont get me wrong. He was the 6 pick in the draft. I dont want him to be this bad or to be a bust. Personally, I never wanted him, but I was willing to see why people thought so highly of him. What I really dont want, is for us to lose games because we chose to play someone not ready to receive mins at this level. Some people really wanted to have Mo Bamba replace Vuch this year. Are you serious? We would have been a lottery team again with mo playing 30 mins. I think that is crazy. I just care about the team winning too much, I guess.

Being dumb is not really something I am trying to hear. He is nearly getting the 8 fouls you are talking about on reaching fouls on guards (I am somewhat exaggerating). When you are faster than john wall and westbook, it is not much to ask to beat your man down the court. He playing 13 mins a game. It does not take much thought to turn and find your man to box out, then find the ball. I am not in the NBA and I know that much. It does not take much thought to seek the ball and not watch the ball go out of bounds. He literally did that recently. He watched the ball roll 10 feet and made no effort to get the ball and it became the other teams ball. Having high hands and challenging shots does not mean you need to foul, but it is better than the reaching fouls he gets now. I can live with him challenging shots and get pumped faked sometimes. Why are you 7'1" with a 7' 10" wingspan with your hands by your sides or trying to cover a man eyes with your hand. Are you going to block something with your head? It is not fair to the rest of the team or the fans to have a player out there that is that garbage. When he plays that bad, save him from his self. JJ got pulled for playing bad. He turned out ok.

I agree. We have invested too high of a pick to drop Mo for nothing, but he does not deserve to play the way he is playing. Play Khem Birch. Mo is priming his self for the g league. I remember JJ needing to earn his mins. When he sucked. He was yanked out. JJ did not like it at first, but he said it was the best thing that ever happen to him in the league and he credits SVG for the lesson. He loves stan for showing him the way. Mo needs to earn his time and needs to be yanked. He misses play calls and rotation. He has no energy, so he does not run the floor or beat his man to spots. He gets dumb fouls. He does not play with active hands. He does not play with high hands. He does not box out. He does not try for loose balls. He does not rebound out of space. He is barely blocking shots with his wing span. (his calling card in college.) The only thing he has surprised me with is his shooting and he has even sucked at that in the last few games. Mo needs a defined roll. If I was coaching mo. I would tell him. I need you to give me all of your effort on defense. I need you beating your man down the floor on every play - rim runs and paint touches. I need you rotating with high hands and challenging every shot. I need you to get every rebound you can. I dont care about much else. Rebounds, blocks, defections, altered shots, beating your man to the paint on offense and defense. If I dont see these things, I am yanking you. He would have a clear understanding as of why you are pulled and we will try again next game. I would track these things and go from there. (I can except hustle fouls, but not reaching dumb fouls.) I dont want too much from mo. I know he is young and has a learning curve, but Fultz is young too. Fultz is not having an issue with hustle. He has had good games and bad games, but he hustle and plays defense, so I can live with the mistakes. Like in the wizards game, when we are down 2 point guards and you are the only PG left. Coach says do not foul and he fouls in 20 secs. What in the hell are you doing, but I can live with the rookie mistake because he paid us back with hustle and effort. Mo owes us a doubt for his mistakes and he has yet to repay it with hustle and energy. The coach can pay us with someone willing to pay mo debit. Where is Khem Birch.

they play two different positions. Khem Birch has always been a center. He plays bigger than his size and is a good shot blocker, pick and roll player, and can shot floaters and mid range shots. His energy, hustle and intangibles were key to us win games last year. If Moe played like khem, he would be an allstar because of his physical tools. The issue is their motors are night and day. Moe plays privileged and acts, on the court, like he does not need to earn anything. khem plays like it is his last game. Hustle and energy is why we resigned khem. Aminu has never been a center. He is a sf/pf tweener. I would say apples and oranges. Birch should get all of Bamba mins until he decides he want to play ball.

Game 46: Wizards: Pure Magic (Pros): in only 25mins, Fultz had a 19 pt career high today. He hit 80% of his shots - including 2 out for 3 from 3pt range. He had two big dunks and one of them clinched the game. You can see him getting better and better with each game. He took his open shots today and made them. I would like to see this continue. Great work today. The dunk at the end of the game was only the beginning of his revenge. I really just want to see Fultz rampage on this league. It would be a great thing to watch. Disenchantment (Cons): I would still consider this as Fultz's second best game. The last game to me was better and against a better team. He was more aggressive verses the spurs. There was no way in the world Isiah Thomas could have guarded Fultz. If he would have played like he did verses the spurs, he may have had 30 pts. It was the wizards and their poorest defense. Fultz had 4 turnovers and we really did not go to him in the 4th. I do think he is too passive in the 4th quarters. His passiveness could be because of the coaches play calling, coach asking him to milk the clock, or vet players asking for the ball at the end of the game. Either way, he does not get in the paint as much in the 4th. He does not continue to push the ball and try to touch the paint for early offense with his driving. There is a noticeable difference for me in the 4th, when he subs in with about 5mins left in the game. Dont get me wrong, Fultz had a great game, the play of the game in the 4th was electric, and we won 3 in a row. I will take that every day. When he is in the game, I just want to see him continue to attack and for us to continue to call his number.

Tied for 4th and 67.5%

I think fultz can make other players better - including Evan. Evan would be great with players trying to closing out on him after a pass off of a fultz's pick and roll. Fultz does not get the mins for us to fucus on that game style. When we can give fultz more mins, I think things will change.