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quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by adigeutqu: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by adigeutqu:First of all I have to say that basketball players making millions of dollars a year is absolutely ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. I like watching the game and -not so often- when something so special happens that it dazzles my mind with inspiration, I just love it. But those moments are so rare and by no means I believe that these guys deserve this much. You can bash me for thinking like that but that's just me and I respect whoever thinks the opposite. Now when it comes to Hedo, I really am a fan of his and had the pleasure of watching him grew as he played. He gave me few of those moments I was talking about and I'm grateful to him for that. He's one of those guys in the league who make you see that any given day an underdog can rise above himself and by doing so make you believe that you can achieve the same in your life. That's what's special about sports in general imo. In our daily lives we sometimes forget the inner strength we all have to make the impossible possible and these guys - the special ones- remind us that it's just the borders that you put in your mind that's keeping you from being what you're capable of becoming. This is why I loved MJ, Hakeem and all those other greats. For the same reason I love Hedo as well because it's "somebody beating the odds" that gives me the most pleasure watching sports. I'm from Turkey and I can see why some of my fellow citizens feel offended when others criticize Hedo and say that he's not worth the money but I can't see any point in defending him. It's not like he's gonna share some of his paycheck to posters from Turkey. But I also can't understand why some fans started to dislike him so much after that vince carter trade. Yeah we all know that these guys are greedy when it comes to big pay-days and they play their best come contract year but isn't it the same with all other players? no i always disliked Turk so my post is not against you. It actually is quite clear if you pay attention to what you read no i just don't like reading long winded posts based mainly on opinion. try indenting and other basic sentence structure techniques, you might get more readers so you just like responding to posts without even reading them? That sounds quite appropriate

quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by adigeutqu:First of all I have to say that basketball players making millions of dollars a year is absolutely ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. I like watching the game and -not so often- when something so special happens that it dazzles my mind with inspiration, I just love it. But those moments are so rare and by no means I believe that these guys deserve this much. You can bash me for thinking like that but that's just me and I respect whoever thinks the opposite. Now when it comes to Hedo, I really am a fan of his and had the pleasure of watching him grew as he played. He gave me few of those moments I was talking about and I'm grateful to him for that. He's one of those guys in the league who make you see that any given day an underdog can rise above himself and by doing so make you believe that you can achieve the same in your life. That's what's special about sports in general imo. In our daily lives we sometimes forget the inner strength we all have to make the impossible possible and these guys - the special ones- remind us that it's just the borders that you put in your mind that's keeping you from being what you're capable of becoming. This is why I loved MJ, Hakeem and all those other greats. For the same reason I love Hedo as well because it's "somebody beating the odds" that gives me the most pleasure watching sports. I'm from Turkey and I can see why some of my fellow citizens feel offended when others criticize Hedo and say that he's not worth the money but I can't see any point in defending him. It's not like he's gonna share some of his paycheck to posters from Turkey. But I also can't understand why some fans started to dislike him so much after that vince carter trade. Yeah we all know that these guys are greedy when it comes to big pay-days and they play their best come contract year but isn't it the same with all other players? no i always disliked Turk so my post is not against you. It actually is quite clear if you pay attention to what you read

First of all I have to say that basketball players making millions of dollars a year is absolutely ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. I like watching the game and -not so often- when something so special happens that it dazzles my mind with inspiration, I just love it. But those moments are so rare and by no means I believe that these guys deserve this much. You can bash me for thinking like that but that's just me and I respect whoever thinks the opposite. Now when it comes to Hedo, I really am a fan of his and had the pleasure of watching him grew as he played. He gave me few of those moments I was talking about and I'm grateful to him for that. He's one of those guys in the league who make you see that any given day an underdog can rise above himself and by doing so make you believe that you can achieve the same in your life. That's what's special about sports in general imo. In our daily lives we sometimes forget the inner strength we all have to make the impossible possible and these guys - the special ones- remind us that it's just the borders that you put in your mind that's keeping you from being what you're capable of becoming. This is why I loved MJ, Hakeem and all those other greats. For the same reason I love Hedo as well because it's "somebody beating the odds" that gives me the most pleasure watching sports. I'm from Turkey and I can see why some of my fellow citizens feel offended when others criticize Hedo and say that he's not worth the money but I can't see any point in defending him. It's not like he's gonna share some of his paycheck to posters from Turkey. But I also can't understand why some fans started to dislike him so much after that vince carter trade. Yeah we all know that these guys are greedy when it comes to big pay-days and they play their best come contract year but isn't it the same with all other players?

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by ClubMed:hillbilly doesnt refer to a race, it is a way of life and out look of life itself. No, "hillbilly" is a derogatory term for people living in rural areas of the US, particularly in the Appalachians in the southeast. To call someone a hillbilly is to call them a poor, uneducated, backwards-living, inbred drunk living out their lives in the middle of the mountains, far removed from society. So remind me again how that's not racist. Not to start an argument with you since there's no point in that, I kindly want to remind you that your perception of those people or that word has a little bit racism in it as well. Of course you're gonna prove me wrong and make yourself believe that it does not sound racist, but it really does.Although it does not mean that you intended to do so.

I did not mean to apply anything to your life. I just tried to share some of my life experience and that's all. If i hit a button I'm sorry. It seems that we diverge on our understandings of the action "listening". I might be wrong but it's like you're reading some posts just to find something you can use for your response. Not to qualify its reliability, not to think about its possibility, unlike me. If you're being cursed at for your ideas, it's your right to feel disrespected, some people just don't have enough dignity to carry out a discussion. Every idea should be respected until they're proven wrong, senseless. People should value other's opinions before going ahead with their own. You just seem to be biased from time to time. The way you consider posts other than yours should be objective. Your posts could be subjective representing your opinions but you shouldn't interpret others' posts subjectively. You calling my observations ridiculous for instance is not the way to discuss respectfully. That takes you a baby step closer to Jackie. In the end these boards are just for fun. It's not like SVG or Otis would read these posts and make decisions upon our ideas. So it's just for sharing our ideas with other members and sharing ideas respectfully we should do.

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: And this line really gets me: quote: You just wait for your turn to speak and refute his ideas even if they're true or they make sense. Clearly if I'm refuting them I DON'T think they make sense, and as for waiting for my turn to speak, of course I am. I can't interrupt him midpost; that's impossible(not to mention rude). I consistently wait for people to make their points, and then I make mine. Would you rather I make my point, let them make theirs, and then just say: "Wow, I must be wrong if you disagree!" That's silly. If someone posts a response to my post, I'll consider theirs and then respond to it. But just because I don't agree with their responses, and sometimes I don't, that doesn't mean I'm not considering them. That's why, more and more lately, I'm citing so many **** examples and comparitive players when I counter points that are being made, whereas before I wouldn't as often; to show that I'm considering the point and then rejecting it based off that consideration, rather than just casually dismissing it. I meant you're not listening to what they're saying, you're just waiting for your turn to speak. It's not about saying "Wow, I must be wrong if you disagree" which is silly but rather about thinking "hmm you might have a point there" sometimes. My observation is you're being subjective most of the time. It was just an advice, arrogance is not a virtue. I'm pretty confident with my thoughts as well but i know that even though i know a lot, i can always learn more. Overconfidence would make you blind to what you see. I'm not just talking about this website. If you want people to take you seriously, if you want them to respect your ideas, you should have the same respect for them. It's like every single time you discuss about something you're on a ring trying to knock down your opponent. "When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities." You just have to listen to other people, that's what discussing is all about. I'm sure you'll gain that virtue with time, you're a smart guy. It's just a matter of some maturity

He better stop whatever he's doing or we're getting s.rewed. He almost got another suspension for throwing an elbow last game. Ewing should talk some sense into him

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by adigeutqu: quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by ironarrow:Basketball in America has it's own weird way. Americans are "STAT MANIACS" and DOM keeps doing the wrong thing based on stats that mean nothing in Europe. Go to Europe and see with your own eyes that stats aren't even kept. Maybe during the game yes, but they are thrown away as soon as the game is over. If you want to talk about facts let's do. 1- Hedo IS a clutch player. By far the most clutch player in Magic Uniform (bring on the stats) 2- Hedo always shows up in the big games. We already know this from his Europe days playing in Euroleague and for national team and we also know for a fact: a- how he sank German team with NOWITZKI on it b- Spanish team with GASOL on it with identical buzzer beaters to take Turkey to the final of European Championship. 3- You have a player that is very valuable in clutch (bring on the facts) and you definitely do NOT understand his value ENOUGH. I will repeat you do not undertand his value ENOUGH! I love the entire concept that if you have a position and facts disagree with it, the facts must be wrong. It is along that rationale that I tell you all that I'm having sex with Heidi Klum right now. I'm not gonna say the post you replied to makes sense but you're shooting at your own foot being the master of that concept I would love to hear of an example of when I argued that a group of facts are wrong without presenting counter-evidence. That depends how you define a counter-evidence. ironarrow probably believes that he has some counter-evidence in his post too. I've been on this board long enough to see that when you're arguing with someone, you never listen to the guy. You just wait for your turn to speak and refute his ideas even if they're true or they make sense. I'm not gonna say you're a guy who can't think rationally but sometimes you choose not to.A word of advice; self-confidence is great but too much of it makes a person arrogant and arrogance is a major problem when it comes to sharing ideas. That's my personal view of course you're free to think differently and you probably will

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by ironarrow:Basketball in America has it's own weird way. Americans are "STAT MANIACS" and DOM keeps doing the wrong thing based on stats that mean nothing in Europe. Go to Europe and see with your own eyes that stats aren't even kept. Maybe during the game yes, but they are thrown away as soon as the game is over. If you want to talk about facts let's do. 1- Hedo IS a clutch player. By far the most clutch player in Magic Uniform (bring on the stats) 2- Hedo always shows up in the big games. We already know this from his Europe days playing in Euroleague and for national team and we also know for a fact: a- how he sank German team with NOWITZKI on it b- Spanish team with GASOL on it with identical buzzer beaters to take Turkey to the final of European Championship. 3- You have a player that is very valuable in clutch (bring on the facts) and you definitely do NOT understand his value ENOUGH. I will repeat you do not undertand his value ENOUGH! I love the entire concept that if you have a position and facts disagree with it, the facts must be wrong. It is along that rationale that I tell you all that I'm having sex with Heidi Klum right now. I'm not gonna say the post you replied to makes sense but you're shooting at your own foot being the master of that concept

that guy he dunked on is a 7 footer here

i can not believe this, this better be a joke!!

quote: Originally posted by alex30: quote: Originally posted by the_rocket: quote: Originally posted by alex30: quote: Originally posted by Erik:kobe would be God if he were on the Magic, so I can't hate him. dude if he were with the magic that would be my last day as a magic fan and i mean that t-mac was playing same style of game. baaaahhhhhh how much basketball you watch?t-mac is not even half of arrogant than kobe Kobe is like a spoilt kid when you get the candy out of his hands he'll start whining and he got himself a teammate who also has talent in kissing referees' asses

quote: Originally posted by alex30:peace guys i cant stand this lost i hate kobe,anyways over all the whole magic team play good on my eyes good job and effort guys im proud,i couldnt be happier if i can see kobe getting punch in the mouth on national tv I would have loved to see cook giving kobe a bruise in the eye

quote: Originally posted by Redickulous: quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:This was a Lakers home game. I just heard f'n MVP chants. Heard 'em too. My buddy who unfortunately is a Lakers fan has said there have been MVP chants the last three road games for LA. What the hell was that man.I heard those friggin chants instead of boos