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  1. I don't start a lot of new threads, but since I have already seen a couple of things that probably belong in this type of thread, I thought I would start one.
  2. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    I absolutely agree, which is why I up-voted and commented "well put" to CTMagicUK's initial comment. At the very least we should be able to get a guy who can be either a 2-way or G League guy for us.
  3. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    Well put. That is why I might try to re-sign James Ennis, because he plays with the kind of controlled energy, and generally within the team concept. Our young guys can learn from that. Bacon on the other hand, doesn't play with that control, or within a team concept. Is Bacon young enough to learn better? Maybe, but I don't think he's shown the BBIQ it takes. He's like a young gambler, who doesn't yet "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away ..." I'm on the fence with Wagner and Brazdeikis - they both seem to be more controlled energy (ala Ennis), but I'm not sure if there is sufficient upside on either. I do prefer both of them to Bacon, though.
  4. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    To play devil's advocate - do we really want a coach who is only interested because we have two more young players coming in via the draft? Shouldn't the young players we already have, plus the two returning from injury, plus at least one top 7 pick be enough? I get that the prospect of two additional top-12 picks is more attractive than one, but should it be a deal-breaker for a prospective coach? I'm honestly on the fence about this. Plus, I'm not sure that they will let prospective coaches know too much about our plans, ie. will we keep both picks, trade up or down, or use one (or both) to go after a veteran star, etc. I honestly wish that the lottery was a week earlier, as it definitely would make scouting the combine easier, and I would prefer to have the head coach/his staff in place prior to the combine - but how much input will they honestly have either way? We know that WeltHam are going to make the decisions, so it probably will be a moot point.
  5. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    Does seem like he's saying the same things about Barnes and Jalen Johnson have trouble with shot-creation and shooting; so it doesn't make sense that he has mocked us taking Johnson, not once but twice.
  6. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    We received 2nd round picks in 2025 and 2027 for Fournier - I would be very unhappy if we resigned him for $15M a season, considering that was his value at the trade deadline. I will be very surprised if anyone offers him more than the MLE this offseason, and if they do, I hope it isn't us.
  7. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    I did read it, actually. I’ve been impressed with him as well, I’m just not convinced what he’s doing now is sustainable, as his career and season numbers show. I like his game and his hustle, attacking approach; but I think he is going to come back down closer to his usual. The first two games are so far above that it seems unsustainable.
  8. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    I think two games is a little sample to judge from. Both his fg% and his 3fg% are significantly higher than either his career or his season averages. That doesn’t mean he can’t improve, but it suggests he is on a streak and will probably come back down.
  9. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    Brooks is having the series of his life so far, playing way above his season/career averages. It will be interesting to see if he can sustain it and make this jump his "new norm", or if this is just a couple game aberration.
  10. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    Really good point Soul Bro - that may actually be the quintessential common denominator over the last 20+ years of NBA champions. Even on the few title winners where the best player doesn't have the rep as that kind of guy, you had at least one other top player who was a long-time vet (leader) of the team who was.
  11. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    I agree it doesn't have a basis on who is/isn't a bust - it is just an interesting footnote on who else was available and the overall strength or weakness of that particular draft. If you had a strong draft with 2-3 all stars, 4-5 other starters, 6-8 career bench players picked after yours and you missed on them, it reflects differently on your front office than if you had a weak draft with only 1-2 all stars, 2-3 other starters, 3-4 career bench players picked after yours. It just says your front office had less to pick from. It's part of what separates some teams' front office/scouting from others - the ability to find the gem in and among the rest.
  12. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    I would definitely take Turner, Booker, Oubre, Rozier, Portis and would throw a couple more in that turned out better than Hezonja - Harrell, Mudiay, Kaminsky; but your point about that draft in particular being a real crap shoot is very true. Only 44/60 players picked that year ever made it onto an NBA roster. That's over 26% that didn't. In comparison, in 2014 there were 53/60 players that have made a roster at some point and 2016 managed 54/60. It was arguably the worst draft ever. It is the fewest players to make an NBA roster in the history of the 30-team/60 pick drafts. So, yeah, Hezonja was a bust, and there were guys that turned out much better; but most of that draft really was a lot more misses than hits.
  13. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    I think it really comes down to who your team and coaches are as people. There was an article today about Julius Randle and how he is the latest guy to play for Tom Thibodeau and become a "Thibs guy". It's a fairly interesting read. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31503946/how-julius-randle-became-thibs-guy-mvp-candidate-knicks And while I don't think everyone has to be quite as intense as Thibs, his long-time credo "The magic is in the work." has some definite value, especially for a young team. You need to have a coaching staff who preaches the value of hard work, and playing the right way; and that is willing to commit to enforcing that by allocating playing time accordingly. You need to have a couple of veterans who are willing to lead by putting in the work, and young guys with the right mental attitude/work ethic. It's part of the reason I was/am such a fan of Ennis - you can tell by the way he plays that this is a guy that puts in the work to stay in shape, to stay mentally focused, and to bring the energy. Anthony definitely seems to have it, as do WCJ and MCW to some extent. I think Fultz, Okeke and Isaac have the work mentality, though their bodies have failed them so far. Having to put all the work into recovery may help to get/keep them on that path. It may be the only way that they can have long careers in the league, so we will see. I think this is the thing that Bamba is a little lacking in. I haven't seen enough of Harris to know yet, but I'm concerned it might be lacking. We definitely saw flashes of it in Wagner, Hall, and Brazdeikis, but that may just be guys playing for a contract, though that could lead them onto the path when they see the value of it. I think Hampton is beginning to see the value of that path, as he seemed to end the season that way. Ross was definitely on it at one point, but seems to have "strayed" a bit off of it over the last year or so. Hopefully, he rediscovers it this summer. I think that is what we used to see with Vuc, Gordon, and Fournier - they seemed to put in the work, see some results, but then "ease off" and relax. I think that is what was so frustrating for us as fans - guys who have the talent, who put in "some" of the work, but then seemed to settle. That is why we would see flashes of great ability, but not as much consistency, though Vuc did seem to finally get it the last couple of seasons. I actually think that losing those two dunk contests was very counter-productive for Gordon, as he really put in the work, both physically and mentally prepping for them; but then the results didn't seem to come, and I think that definitely got into his head. I think it robbed him of more than just the dunk title, but some of his fire, desire, and work commitment were deflated by those losses.
  14. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    Which actually gives me a lot of comfort, as I think we can most likely get him with the Bulls' pick (assuming we don't get screwed by the lottery, again). However, if for some reason we do have the worst possible outcome, where four teams including the Bulls jump ahead of us, and we end up with just the #7 pick this year, then I definitely want us to go all-in on Giddey. I think his floor is pretty solid, and his ceiling is ridiculously high. Most draft boards have Cunningham, Suggs, Green, Mobley as the top-4; and six out of Kuminga, Barnes, J Johnson, K Johnson, Wagner, Mitchell, Kispert, Sengun, Moody for the remainder of the top-10. If we get a top-4 pick, and the Bulls pick is in the 8-10 range, I'm okay with picking one of the "usual suspects/top-4" with that pick and Giddey with the Bulls pick, as he will most likely (90%) still be there. But, if we start hearing someone else is going to pick him in the 5-10 range; or if we fall into the 5-7 range, and the Bulls pick is 11 or 12, I'm picking Giddey first, and then whoever else is still available at 11/12. I know he's not a typical Weltham guy, as he is 6'8", but his wingspan is only about 6'7-1/2", but he's such a unique prospect I am really pulling for us to get him. Actually my toughest scenario is if the Bulls jump ahead of us, and we end up with the #4 pick only. Yes, we are probably going to get a really good player (Mobley?), but I think the likelihood of us then trading that pick and getting Giddey becomes almost 0%. The prospect of us picking yet another really tall guy with a thin frame like Isaac and Bamba just really worries me.
  15. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    We currently only have three guys under contract who are over 24. Ross is 30, MCW is 29, and Harris is 26 (27 on 9/14). Throw in a couple more rookies and we are very young, which is part of why I'm on the fence about Brazdeikis (he is 22). Could Iggy be a good, high-energy, 3-and-D type of bench role-player? I think so. Is he a younger version of James Ennis III (31 on 7/1)? I certainly see some similarities, and I think you all know I like Ennis. If I was sure that we were only sitting Ennis out of an abundance of caution, and so we could have the chance to evaluate a couple extra young guys, I would be 100% on board with re-signing Ennis. I don't think we bring back both Iggy and Ennis, and it may just come down to veteran experience, so that would be Ennis. I would rather see us re-sign Brazdeikis than I would Bacon. Bacon will turn 26 before the season starts, and should be entering the prime of his career - I'm just not sure that Bacon is worth a bench spot going forward. He kind of is what he is, and even prime Bacon may not be good for anything except a BLT. So, we currently have 7 guys under-25 who are under contract for next season. Throw in two first rounders and we are at 9 under-25. If we keep Iggy, Mo Wagner(24), and/or our second round pick makes the roster, we could have as many as 12 guys under-25. That is a serious youth movement.
  16. jmmagicfan

    Chicago Bulls Draft Pick Watch

    Depending on availability, I like the following for the Bulls pick: Giddey, Moody, Barnes, J Johnson, Wagner.
  17. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    So if we get a top-5 pick, I would take, Cunningham, Suggs, Green, Mobley, or Giddey. Yes, I think Giddey is a bigger risk than any of the rest of them, as they are all better scorers; but I think he has as much or more upside than anyone else in the draft not named Cunningham. I might even take him top-2, as I'm that high on him. In my mind, Cunningham is absolutely #1, and I'm not sure it is even close; but I go back and forth after that between Suggs/Green/Giddey. I would love to do something like Atlanta did a few years ago, getting the guy they wanted plus a few other assets. I think that would be a great way to wind up with Giddey and additional asset(s). The only problem then is, what if the guy you traded blows up. As good as Trae Young has turned out to be, wouldn't you still rather have Doncic now?
  18. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    I kind of forgot that Moody is as physically solid, and with as long a wingspan as he has. I can see him as a 2/3.
  19. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    I sincerely hope that we take the best player available at both slots, regardless of fit, and then make trades or sign free agents accordingly. My personal hope is for Cunningham (of course) and Giddey; and I don't care that they are similar players - two 6'8" guys who can potentially both play three positions is a win. I would be very happy with Suggs or Green for "our" pick as well, as I think both have star potential, but we might have to look at a trade to even out the roster sooner with Suggs, since he really is a 1/2. I like Green, but I'm not sure that he has the strength/size to play the SF - I think he is almost exclusively a SG, so again would clog up the back court rotation. It's unfortunate that our biggest position of need right now is a "pure" SF, as that seems to be the position with the fewest options among the top players. I don't dislike Corey Kispert or Franz Wagner - I just don't think either will be an all star; they will both probably have fairly long careers as occasional starters/bench rotation players (6th/7th guys), but I just want more from a (hopefully) top-10 pick, and I think Giddey, and Moody have better ceilings. I actually like Wagner better than Kispert - and it might be interesting to have both Wagners on the team as part of the bench mob.
  20. jmmagicfan

    2021 NBA Draft Thread

    I don't think I would pick any of them with the #8 (Bulls) pick, but since BJ Boston is being mocked late 1st/early 2nd, I might grab him with #33. I might consider Barnes or Springer as a late lottery if the Bulls pick falls and some of my other preferences (Giddey, possibly Moody) are already gone.
  21. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    AG actually did a really nice job in the second half of slowing Lilliard down after he torched Denver in the first half. Apparently AG asked for the assignment. Good for him!
  22. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    I think someone will pick him up for his offensive attack, but if they do, it will be for a much smaller role, and it will be off the bench (deep bench?). (A small, bacon roll?)
  23. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    I agree, using him correctly is required. I don't agree that hope is useless. Him having the green light was primarily due to the offensive deficiencies of the rest of the bench. Again, I agree, Clifford is definitely going to have to rein Ross in, and work more within the team concept on the offensive end. Ross is also going to have to play better D. ^ This, with all of the injuries, the bench was really thin, and frequently left with minimal ball-handling and offense outside of TRoss.
  24. jmmagicfan

    2021 Off-season Discussion Thread

    I think TRoss does qualify, but he has to be used correctly. When we have someone else cutting and passing to him, or when we had another consistent outside threat (DJ), Ross was better; but with the offensive shortcomings and injuries, he has had to do too much on his own, and has gotten into bad habits. He earned the "Human Torch" nickname to begin with, but just like any flame, it needs oxygen (space) to work and breath. I think you are 100% correct about our need to improve on the offensive end. I can't put all of that on Ross and Clifford because of the injuries and trades this year. I expect a big difference next year and I think if we don't see it, then one or both will be gone. Imagine how much space Ross would have playing with Cole and one of Giddy/F Wagner/Green beside him. I think Ross has more value around the league than Fournier, but less than Vucevic. I think he would probably be worth a package similar to what we got for Gordon. Especially because he will make $12.5M next season and $11.5M the following. That is a great contract for any team. I hope we don't trade him, I think he is a valuable vet to keep, if he is used correctly.
  25. jmmagicfan

    2020-21 NBA Playoff Discussion Thread

    Yes, Trae has been better than many expected - myself included. But remember, he was already gone when we picked Bamba. We had no real road to get up to Luka or Trae.
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