MagicNZ 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Are Vuc, Gordon, and Payton worth continuing to build around? Do we resign Serge? Will Hezonja never break the rotation? This season was supposed to answer questions but just leaves us with more... Based on what we've seen so far and the way the new CBA has gone, making it more financially incentive to remain at your current team, personally yes I'd keep Gordon and Payton, try and resign Ibaka and do something to get an upgrade at 2. Vuc yes I'd try an retain, but he'd be the most expendable if needed to upgrade the 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicNZ 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 No, yes, maybe, maybe, maybe. Two answers answered :D/> Haha, much better answer than mine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 619 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Look at the minutes the starters played on the second night of a back-to-back. I realize Vogel didn't have much choice because the bench was worse than awful, but it does make you wonder if that's one of the reasons we faded at the end of the game. Mario -14 in 4 minutes. Doing the math, had he played the whole game, we lose by 168. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,247 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Look at the minutes the starters played on the second night of a back-to-back. I realize Vogel didn't have much choice because the bench was worse than awful, but it does make you wonder if that's one of the reasons we faded at the end of the game. Mario -14 in 4 minutes. Doing the math, had he played the whole game, we lose by 168. Mario was not the issue. The other 4 were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,247 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 The Exum vs Payton debate if it ever was 1 was put to bed forever in this game. Our Bench needs to be upgraded Majorly. Do not know why coach plays CJ Watson.. Play Wilcox if you do not want to play Mario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,247 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Also i do not care what anybody says Bismack is not worth that money... I want to trade him. I believe we could get alot more from a player for 17min per year...Rim protection or not. It has been a overpay. He has been very poor. Only way it is justified if we made the playoffs and did well in the playoffs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnettej 263 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Also i do not care what anybody says Bismack is not worth that money... I want to trade him. I believe we could get alot more from a player for 17min per year...Rim protection or not. It has been a overpay. He has been very poor. Only way it is justified if we made the playoffs and did well in the playoffs Point 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Mario was not the issue. The other 4 were. He wasn't. Player tracking shows he didn't even defend a shot last night. It was mostly Watson, green, and Augustin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 He wasn't. Player tracking shows he didn't even defend a shot last night. It was mostly Watson, green, and Augustin No he was not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 619 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 He wasn't. Player tracking shows he didn't even defend a shot last night. It was mostly Watson, green, and Augustin Ok. I didn't watch the game so I can't disagree with any of that. In general, though, I'd caution about drawing too many conclusions from these kinds of statistics. For example, if Mario's man was getting loose and the other guys had to sag off the guy they were defending to help defend Mario's guy, and then their guy gets open looks, the statistics could still look like you describe. Again, I didn't watch the game, and if all of you say that's not what happened, then it didn't happen. I would just be careful about relying too much on individual statistics to tell the story in a team game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Ok. I didn't watch the game so I can't disagree with any of that. In general, though, I'd caution about drawing too many conclusions from these kinds of statistics. For example, if Mario's man was getting loose and the other guys had to sag off the guy they were defending to help defend Mario's guy, and then their guy gets open looks, the statistics could still look like you describe. Again, I didn't watch the game, and if all of you say that's not what happened, then it didn't happen. I would just be careful about relying too much on individual statistics to tell the story in a team game. Yeah. I was just using that as supplement to memory as its late and i could have blocked out shots that we're on him. But I'm pretty sure he was switched weak side on most of those buckets. He did have a turnover that didn't result in points because Augustin fouled. He had a couple fouls going after offensive rebounds. Nothing substantial happened positively or negatively though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 619 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Yeah. I was just using that as supplement to memory as its late and i could have blocked out shots that we're on him. But I'm pretty sure he was switched weak side on most of those buckets. He did have a turnover that didn't result in points because Augustin fouled. He had a couple fouls going after offensive rebounds. Nothing substantial happened positively or negatively though. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
