Magicman28 295 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 No we should not keep a failed GM, this is a business people not your family restaurant where everyone grows up with one another and has holiday dinners. The Magic are losing money every year it squanders away with not have a good product on the floor. You keep the leadership the product won't change, it's that simple. And with 30+ other products out there competing we don't have time to stay the course. Check your emotions at the door. You're one of the most emotional posters here man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 No we should not keep a failed GM, this is a business people not your family restaurant where everyone grows up with one another and has holiday dinners. The Magic are losing money every year it squanders away with not have a good product on the floor. You keep the leadership the product won't change, it's that simple. And with 30+ other products out there competing we don't have time to stay the course. Check your emotions at the door. They've actually made money the last 5 years. And our attendance this year is good for 15th in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchero MVP 391 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 They've actually made money the last 5 years. And our attendance this year is good for 15th in the league. Probably off the other teams fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 Probably off the other teams fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 I don't see why we should expect that to be permanent. People adapt when they find things that don't work. And it probably doesn't help that we signed a bunch of players for Vaughn then we signed a bunch of players for Skiles then we signed a bunch of players to run Vogel's offense when Vogel's offense doesn't work anymore. So we have Vogel adapting now and I believe he can do that because he's a players coach and runs really good plays out of timeouts so you have to figure there's enough there for him to figure everything out. With Rob I think he's really good at scouting and that's really half the battle. I'm pretty confident in him figuring out the balance of the team now that we're looking at basically building around Gordon instead of oladipo or payton or Gordon or harris who all don't really mesh so you have to just throw people together until you find something that works. But this is a pointless discussion. Rob is going to be fired. Exactly. Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 and our team structure wasn't supposed to make sense until last year. the mission from day 1 to right before last year was "just find some talent and we'll figure things out in the future". Then this year we decided to actually build a team and the direction we went was a mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnettej 263 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 You're one of the most emotional posters here man. Yes I am but I also am able to drop it and look at from a different view. In this case money. And what's being lost. Payton4thewin: I'm just going to start typing my responses in your comments. This year was the most profitable year for the franchise in over a decade and we've been more profitable over the last 5 years than the previous 5 years. Damn it you can't hack the system P4W.... lol... good work around though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnettej 263 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 They've actually made money the last 5 years. And our attendance this year is good for 15th in the league. It's a tribute to our fans in that they understand how we're rebuilding," Martins said. "They've bought into it. But at the end of the day, there comes a time when you have to win in order to maintain loyalty, in order to continue to grow business, in order to sell your building out every night, which is one of the ultimate measures of success from a business standpoint. So our expectation is that we're reaching a point where we need to win and we need to be competing for a playoff spot." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,421 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 Rob and his team just got 28th out of 30 in the ESPN GM rankings. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19031533/gm-president-ratings-1-30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 It's a tribute to our fans in that they understand how we're rebuilding," Martins said. "They've bought into it. But at the end of the day, there comes a time when you have to win in order to maintain loyalty, in order to continue to grow business, in order to sell your building out every night, which is one of the ultimate measures of success from a business standpoint. So our expectation is that we're reaching a point where we need to win and we need to be competing for a playoff spot." So? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 Yes I am but I also am able to drop it and look at from a different view. In this case money. And what's being lost. Payton4thewin: I'm just going to start typing my responses in your comments. This year was the most profitable year for the franchise in over a decade and we've been more profitable over the last 5 years than the previous 5 years. Damn it you can't hack the system P4W.... lol... good work around though. The money is there. It's the w's and that one special talent that's lacking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnettej 263 Report post Posted March 31, 2017 So? Even Martins knows that winning puts money into the business and that without it, it definitely impacts the business and makes it hard to attract your fans and loyalty which comes with easy endorsements from bigger companies because of the bigger turn outs, and when it comes time to renew with the city; that it won't be pooped on by having a garbage team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites