fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Payton needs knock down shooters around him to spread the floor which he doesn't. Trades need to be made. One way or another. Either we get a point guard who can shoot or better shooters around Payton. I see this as our fundamental flaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Payton needs knock down shooters around him to spread the floor which he doesn't. Trades need to be made. One way or another. Either we get a point guard who can shoot or better shooters around Payton. I see this as our fundamental flaw. Yeah but you'd have to build the team like he's an JKidd clone. Two problems with that, he's not JKidd and we don't have the pieces. I still say AG should watch tapes of Marion and switch back to the 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Yeah but you'd have to build the team like he's an JKidd clone. Two problems with that, he's not JKidd and we don't have the pieces. I still say AG should watch tapes of Marion and switch back to the 4. I agree with Gordon at 4. Then who do u trade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 I agree with Gordon at 4. Then who do u trade? Trade Vuc AND Dipo for Butler. Ohhh ... We said no to that already. My bad ... #istilltrustinhenny reluctantly now :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 I agree with Gordon at 4. Then who do u trade? I'm curious to what we'd look like with Payton/Fournier/Mario or Green/AG/Vuc first. I still think there's a lot of questions...Is Fournier as your starting sg ideal? Can Mario turn the corner and become the player we envisioned? Would Payton thrive with the lineup change? Clearly some sort of change has to happen and the first move I'd make is move AG back to the 4, groom him in the Mario mold and bring Ibaka off the bench pending on matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 I would go with ibaka or biz in starting line up. We need biz's energy to start games so I would probably start him. I think moving Mario to a starting role may be the confidence boost he needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 I would go with ibaka or biz in starting line up. We need biz's energy to start games so I would probably start him. I think moving Mario to a starting role may be the confidence boost he needs. Yeah but Vuch has been one of our best players surprisingly. Ibaka has been the worse and AG's defensive stats are down as well. To me, move AG back to the 4, Ibaka off the bench and if you still see an offensive problem, make an move to acquire someone who can help in that department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Yeah but Vuch has been one of our best players surprisingly. Ibaka has been the worse and AG's defensive stats are down as well. To me, move AG back to the 4, Ibaka off the bench and if you still see an offensive problem, make an move to acquire someone who can help in that department. Vuc is good in the right match up. I would switch him with biz depending upon that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Yeah but Vuch has been one of our best players surprisingly. Ibaka has been the worse and AG's defensive stats are down as well. To me, move AG back to the 4, Ibaka off the bench and if you still see an offensive problem, make an move to acquire someone who can help in that department. vuc has been fine but there was this one play where rondo drove to the basket (and Payton ended up blocking it) where vucevic purposely gave up the baseline in order to defend someone at the free throw line. it was weird. Its one of the reasons I think some portion of the issues might just be rotations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Vuc is good in the right match up. I would switch him with biz depending upon that. Vuc has been consistently good so far. His defense has improved and he's not an black hole on offense. I don't think that warrants his role to change. Ibaka and the offense seems to be the main issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 vuc has been fine but there was this one play where rondo drove to the basket (and Payton ended up blocking it) where vucevic purposely gave up the baseline in order to defend someone at the free throw line. it was weird. Its one of the reasons I think some portion of the issues might just be rotations. Yeah I saw that. Was weird. However those plays were more frequent with Ibaka and many other defensive shortcomings on his part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 Yeah I saw that. Was weird. However those plays were more frequent with Ibaka and many other defensive shortcomings on his part. oh, yeah. no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
