Tough Break There 96 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Gotta put in what may soon become my weekly note that we trade our GM before allowing him to make any trades. Henny, aka Hinkie Lite, for a theoretical 2034 2nd round pick and assets to be named later? I'm in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I'm really disappointed that we didn't make a deal this week, as it was an ideal time to if playoffs were actually still the goal. Now, we have a long west coast trip for the next 2 weeks where we'll roll with the same stuff we've been sending out every night and I honestly can't see us going better than 2-4 which would put us at 18-26 and well out of the playoff race. At this point, I believe we're sellers at the deadline. Sad to say but I wouldn't mind seeing us go 0-6 and change some **** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tough Break There 96 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Sad to say but I wouldn't mind seeing us go 0-6 and change some **** Yeah I gotta say, I noticed myself thinking the same thing while watching the game tonight. Which is starting to feel like an annual 2nd half of the season tradition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air Gordon 156 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Sad to say but I wouldn't mind seeing us go 0-6 and change some **** What sucks is I really like Ibaka. I think he'd be a great # 2 guy if we could find a # 1. I'm so done with Fournier and Vucevic's selfish two-ball game. Package them in a deal together so they can keep the affair going somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 What sucks is I really like Ibaka. I think he'd be a great # 2 guy if we could find a # 1. I'm so done with Fournier and Vucevic's selfish two-ball game. Package them in a deal together so they can keep the affair going somewhere else. True. I think we have a lot of problems. One of them being Vogel who refuses to play small ball with Ibaka and Gordon at the 5-4, with an uptempo style and shooting around them. We're in a horrible grey area where we can't play defense or offense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Servo 7 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I'd like to send biz back to Toronto and cash for an expiring, if one exists, and a 2nd Rd pick. He's terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air Gordon 156 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 True. I think we have a lot of problems. One of them being Vogel who refuses to play small ball with Ibaka and Gordon at the 5-4, with an uptempo style and shooting around them. We're in a horrible grey area where we can't play defense or offense Vogel refusing to play Mario at this point seems personal and is disappointing. Also, I don't think he's comfortable or experienced coaching small ball, he's never really had to before. Not really an acceptable excuse, but I'm grasping for straws here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Vogel refusing to play Mario at this point seems personal and is disappointing. ****, don't even get me started :svgsad: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air Gordon 156 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I'd like to send biz back to Toronto and cash for an expiring, if one exists, and a 2nd Rd pick. He's terrible Disagree. Biz is a fantastic backup change of pace Center who can get hot and have huge rebounding and blocking games occasionally, but not consistently. He's being asked to play too many minutes and do too much. I think he's worried way too much about foul trouble and his defense is really suffering for it. Also, 17 million a year with the new cap is a perfectly acceptable rate for a high end backup Center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 True. I think we have a lot of problems. One of them being Vogel who refuses to play small ball with Ibaka and Gordon at the 5-4, with an uptempo style and shooting around them. We're in a horrible grey area where we can't play defense or offense Purgatory is how I see it but yeah. AG should start at the 3 though with Biz at center and Ibaka at the 4 but I agree he should run that small ball lineup for a few. He does it either Green if all people so it's weird. I think decisions will be made after this road trip pending on outcome. I'm with you on Mario. I get what Vogel is doing with him. He's trying to stop the bad habits and develop new ones land it's the smart way to go. It's why Stan sat JJ for so long. I just can't stand Fournier and how his game is detrimental to team basketball. Mario can't be much worse but maybe after Jan 15, Fournier is gone or benched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I think the Hawks could be interested in a deal around Fournier for Millsap. We have to go all in in one of two directions: trade for veterans that will genuinely help you win more (Dragic and Millsap are very attainable IMO), or trade our veterans - Ibaka included - for young players or picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I think the Hawks could be interested in a deal around Fournier for Millsap. We have to go all in in one of two directions: trade for veterans that will genuinely help you win more (Dragic and Millsap are very attainable IMO), or trade our veterans - Ibaka included - for young players or picks No way do you trade Fournier for Millsap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
