2016-2017 Season Discussion Thread

[Franchero MVP 391]

Damn it, Payton I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!

 

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

the drop off from payton to Augustin over the past 6 games has been obscene

 

when payton is on the court we have an offensive rating of 111.7 (elite) and a defensive rating of 102.8 (solid)

 

when Payton is off the court we have an offensive rating of 96.4 (terrible) and a defensive rating of 112 (horrible)

 

 

That difference is massive.

[Odin 137]

the drop off from payton to Augustin over the past 6 games has been obscene

 

when payton is on the court we have an offensive rating of 111.7 (elite) and a defensive rating of 102.8 (solid)

 

when Payton is off the court we have an offensive rating of 96.4 (terrible) and a defensive rating of 112 (horrible)

 

 

That difference is massive.

 

On a game to game basis, Watson is better than Augustin, in my opinion. Augustin is just the PG version of Green.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

the worst part about the payton-augustin splits is the minute distribution. payton is averaging 27.1 mpg over the last 6 games, augustin is at 21.1.

 

you want to win games? play payton 36 minutes and augustin 12.

[Murphy13 185]

the worst part about the payton-augustin splits is the minute distribution. payton is averaging 27.1 mpg over the last 6 games, augustin is at 21.1.

 

you want to win games? play payton 36 minutes and augustin 12.

 

I can't imagine that continuing if he keeps up the play, he's playing within the game very well, shooting almost 55% fgs since the ASB-along with everything else.

[Odin 137]

the worst part about the payton-augustin splits is the minute distribution. payton is averaging 27.1 mpg over the last 6 games, augustin is at 21.1.

 

you want to win games? play payton 36 minutes and augustin 12.

 

I'm fine with it. Keep the Augustin Green tank rolling!

[magicblue 315]

I'm fine with it. Keep the Augustin Green tank rolling!

 

Yes, I can't help but believe that this is a big part of our tanking strategy

[Soul Bro 1,421]

the worst part about the payton-augustin splits is the minute distribution. payton is averaging 27.1 mpg over the last 6 games, augustin is at 21.1.

 

you want to win games? play payton 36 minutes and augustin 12.

Hey at least Henny didn't commit to Augustin long term

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Hey at least Henny didn't commit to Augustin long term

 

We can get rid of him with minimal long term impact. That's not an issue.

[Soul Bro 1,421]

We can get rid of him with minimal long term impact. That's not an issue.

I know yet it represents another obvious miscue by Henny. The dude had bounced all around the league and then somehow got a 4 year guaranteed deal from us at 7+ million/year. These vets were supposed to bring consistency and good value, yet as you have shared, have brought the opposite.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

I know yet it represents another obvious miscue by Henny. The dude had bounced all around the league and then somehow got a 4 year guaranteed deal from us at 7+ million/year. These vets were supposed to bring consistency and good value, yet as you have shared, have brought the opposite.

 

I think the thought process was Augustin was a veteran presence who played for Vogel before and was a positive impact in Denver who fit our cost/role. And point guard poor defense isn't as impactful when you have rim protection. He played really well backing up Mudiay last year.

 

Maybe he needs a good defensive shooting guard next to him? Maybe putting him in augustin-watson-green lineups is killing any benefit he provides? Maybe our offense isn't fit for him.

 

we'll dump him this summer and he'll latch on to golden state and play fantastic.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

with Watson back in the rotation I'm really not happy with the lineups Vogel is coming up with. We should never be in a situation where either Fournier or Ross aren't on the court.