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chosen12    58

 

 

 

 

 

Without question, very good read. Bottom line I think Serge was underutilized and left to create his own offense from outside the arc. He had no choice in the play calling, and in my estimation was a 6'10" decoy or 4th offensive option. This should be his breakout season.....is my hope!

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Mauro Pedrosa    494

So Vince Carter has won like 6 straight head to head twitter votes for the best Magic Players of all time and is sitting at #11 right now..

 

The organization should know better.. VC is one of the most popular basketball players of all time and was the only player to have an individual internet forum for a while. Don't be surprised if he finishes first lol

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Miller4Prez66    545

So Vince Carter has won like 6 straight head to head twitter votes for the best Magic Players of all time and is sitting at #11 right now..

 

The organization should know better.. VC is one of the most popular basketball players of all time and was the only player to have an individual internet forum for a while. Don't be surprised if he finishes first lol

 

I guarantee the people voting for him are the same turds who infested this forum when he played here swinging from his nut sack. Vince Carter being voted higher than Dennis Scott as a player for the Orlando Magic is a disgrace and a damn shame. Personally, I think Carter is one of my least favorite players to ever wear a Magic uniform. He did nothing but underachieve and choked hard in the 2010 ECF against the Celtics, costing us what could've been our best chance at a ring. He at best should've been ranked in the 20s.

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The Magic took their biggest swing at getting off the treadmill of mediocrity this summer, moving on from former No. 2 overall pick Victor Oladipo in a move that netted them Serge Ibaka.

 

That deal didn't earn rave reviews for the Magic in the immediate aftermath, but it might actually end up making them a better team, even if they might be less talented after adding in a lottery pick in last June's draft as well.

 

The Magic's decision to trade for Ibaka was a risky one, to be sure. Oladipo still flashes star potential, and it wouldn't be a surprise at all if he ends up an All-Star someday. However, in the wake of the Dwight Howard era, the Magic were left with a talented, intriguing roster, filled with players whose talents didn't really cover up for their respective flaws.

 

It's not difficult to see how it might make the roster fit together a bit more, and Ibaka is a big part of that. His ability to shoot lights-out from the perimeter opens up driving lanes for Elfrid Payton and clears the floor for Nikola Vucevic's post-up game. Vucevic can also space the floor for Ibaka's dives to the rim. The combination of two competent shooters at the four and five makes it easier to fit Aaron Gordon in, too. And Ibaka is the perfect complement to Vucevic on the other end of the floor, providing the Magic with rim protection they have never had.

http://www.cbssports...c-team-outlook/

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?4thewin    1,762

Lost any credibility with "lights-out from the perimeter" describing Ibaka. Serge Ibaka, in his best season, was not shooting "lights-out from the perimeter". At best, Ibaka's a guy who you can't leave wide open outside. Like Oladipo.

 

he shot 45% in the playoffs from 3.

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magicblue    229

Lost any credibility with "lights-out from the perimeter" describing Ibaka. Serge Ibaka, in his best season, was not shooting "lights-out from the perimeter". At best, Ibaka's a guy who you can't leave wide open outside. Like Oladipo.

 

Well, you'd expect that at the very least for an NBA shooting guard...not necessarily a PF/C type.

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Mauro Pedrosa    494

I guarantee the people voting for him are the same turds who infested this forum when he played here swinging from his nut sack. Vince Carter being voted higher than Dennis Scott as a player for the Orlando Magic is a disgrace and a damn shame. Personally, I think Carter is one of my least favorite players to ever wear a Magic uniform. He did nothing but underachieve and choked hard in the 2010 ECF against the Celtics, costing us what could've been our best chance at a ring. He at best should've been ranked in the 20s.

Lol the Magic organization decided to keep him out of the top 10, and scrapped the VC vs Horace Grant vote.

 

Now its Rashard vs Horace.

 

VC won 6 straight votes and Im sure he wouldve won a lot more haha

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Irelando    1

Lol the Magic organization decided to keep him out of the top 10, and scrapped the VC vs Horace Grant vote.

 

Now its Rashard vs Horace.

 

VC won 6 straight votes and Im sure he wouldve won a lot more haha

 

Lol I was hoping he'd keep going. It's unfair how they pick the head to heads. They essentially picked the top 25 but are letting the fans mix about one or two players by a place or two.

 

Realistically we all know guys like 3D had better magic careers

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?4thewin    1,762

Lol I was hoping he'd keep going. It's unfair how they pick the head to heads. They essentially picked the top 25 but are letting the fans mix about one or two players by a place or two.

 

Realistically we all know guys like 3D had better magic careers

 

I don't know. Is it better to be the fifth best player on a team for several seasons or the second best player on a team for two seasons?

 

If yes, it opens the door to argue jameer or Nick Anderson above McGrady

 

If no, Vince Carter should be above Scott

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Optimist Prime    180

I don't know. Is it better to be the fifth best player on a team for several seasons or the second best player on a team for two seasons?

 

If yes, it opens the door to argue jameer or Nick Anderson above McGrady

 

If no, Vince Carter should be above Scott

 

To me, the knock against VC is the 2010 ECF. Since those playoffs were the only chance to prove himself, it leaves a bit larger a stain than others. He didn't have a chance for redeeming that performance.

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The reality is Hezonja is not the brash player of YouTube lore. He is confident in himself — as evidenced by his scorching shooting in a woefully underused role with Croatia in the Olympics so far. But more than that, he is a good teammate. Hezonja quickly bonded with Victor Oladipo and Elfrid Payton and became one of the guys. He revels as much in a carefully timed pass as he does draining that big shot. When he got into transition, his athleticism was on full display as was his decision making and offensive acumen.

 

Hezonja is the first to say how far he still has to go as a player. He seemed receptive to Skiles’ coaching and instruction. He was never given the chance on many occasions to correct mistakes, often pulled at the first sign of trouble for someone Skiles trusted. That is the problem of playing under a coach like Skiles.

 

But don’t get it twisted: All those things everyone loves about Hezonja are still in there, hoping for the opportunity to burst out. It seems the last year has seen him chained to the deck as hard-charging coaches try to wring discipline and structure on a player who needs the freedom to work.

 

Hezonja can regain his reputation under Frank Vogel. The Magic will rely on him more as their second unit needs some sort of catalyst now. He can have the rookie season everyone wanted for him. He can pull up from ridiculous range and play with swagger again. The boisterousness those around the Magic saw behind the scenes can show itself on the court with a coach who can be a little more forgiving.

http://hardwoodparox...-mario-hezonja/

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