Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 In regards to Vogel not getting the Pacers a championship, they did lose to the Heat in the conference finals two years running (4-3 and 4-2). He had a budding Paul George leading the way, with some decent players supporting him in Hibbert, Stephenson, West, Hill and co. But those Heat teams had LeBron playing like the superstar he is, supported by star talent in Wade and Bosh, plus some decent supporting players. If his Pacers team had got past them, and they nearly did the first time, they could very well have won a championship if they could have beaten the Spurs. So to be fair to Vogel, his record with the Pacers is impressive. They went from losing in the first round in year one, to conference semis in year two, to consecutive finals appearances in years three and four. His fifth year was hurt by Paul George being out, but their record was tied with the Nets who went to the play offs as the 8th seed. And in his sixth year, a quasi rebuilding year, he did a good job getting them to the play offs and they were unlucky to lose to the Raptors. That seems as impressive a record as what Mark Jackson did in Golden State. Don't get me wrong, Jackson got the Warriors on the right track, but Vogel did the same with the Pacers. I agree totally. I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm a Buc fan and I know Buc fans who still think we won the ship not because of Gruden but because Dungy built it to that level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 We interviewed JB Bickerstaff yesterday apparently No..No...No no no no...NO!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 No..No...No no no no...NO!!!! I think this is probably "Diverse options of interviewees" PR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago Sources: J.B. Bickerstaff made a strong impression in Wednesday interview with Orlando, but Magic moving toward offer to Frank Vogel. Dammit man make the move! Week later, Magic are still moving to make a deal... The hell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 I think this is probably "Diverse options of interviewees" PR. Vanterpool? Griffin? It wouldn't make sense to do that at this point. There has to be some interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywise316 211 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 I agree totally. I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm a Buc fan and I know Buc fans who still think we won the ship not because of Gruden but because Dungy built it to that level. Both > either/or. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Funderburker 110 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 Vanterpool? Griffin? It wouldn't make sense to do that at this point. There has to be some interest. Or possibly interviewing potential assistants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 Both > either/or. That's what I said but some people are black and white about everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 Or possibly interviewing potential assistants I wouldn't rule that out but wouldn't Vogel want to bring on his own? Has there ever been a GM who chose the assistants instead of the coach? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 251 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 That's what I said but some people are black and white about everything. That's racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 That's racist. #Commonsensematters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 19, 2016 Vanterpool? Griffin? It wouldn't make sense to do that at this point. There has to be some interest. If you interview everyone on the market you're doing your due diligence. We get so few opportunities to have these interviews it makes sense to get as many candidates as possible. someone might surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites