JayLaff 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2011 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=310330001 This is why we need a guard. He may not get much playing time... but you can't prepare in practice without at least 10 players. I mean you need to be able to run 5 on 5 hahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicMan27 12 Report post Posted March 31, 2011 Whats up with Luther Head? He is 10times better than Duhon and would allow Arenas a full summer and maybe a month into the season to fully recover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the notorious S.A.C. 89 Report post Posted April 1, 2011 BMP respectfully: Lakers without kobe...40-45 wins Laker without bynum 50+ wins Lakers without Gasol 45-50 wins Miami without Wade-45-50 wins Miami without bron 42-50 wins Chicago without Rose 40-45 wins Chicago without boozer 45-50 wins Chicago without noah 45-50 wins Boston without garnett 45-50 wins Boston without pierce 50+ wins Boston without rondo 45-50 wins boston without allen 50+ wins Magic without Dwight 15-20 wins. Best case 25 wins. I will laugh you off this board and forever heckle you if you realistically think this team gets more than 30 wins without dwight. I wont be alone in saying we would max out at 25 wins either. I bet 80% of this board would say we are a 25 win or lower club. Now you can disagree with me to the tune of 5-10 wins on the above estimates but those clubs still would be 30-40 win teams. And that is the problem Otis has created...no one else! Dont say who could he have gotten...Otis has had 5 years to plan and acquire talent. His hand is all over this club. And he has been unhindered financially. Ive seen many teams plan for and acquire all star talent in that time including watching the heat dismantle a whole club to head in a championship direction but our gm "LIKES HIS TEAM THE WAY IT IS". Say no more if the team fails its his team....period. To discount your feeling on miami without wade or bosh I will give an example of Bron by himself (IE minus Wade and Bosh) last year (which he was in fact by himself in cleveland) was what 60 wins. So I bet minus Wade or Bosh in Miami they would still be 50 + wins based on what bron did in cleveland last year. Unless you are a big delonte west or mo williams fan...LOL. Miami without bron and bosh well looking at the heat last year they made the playoffs and were 40+ wins. Bosh and Wade would certainly be a more formidable tandem than wade himself last year. Finally, I will bet you Charlie Sheen will turn up clean in a test for STDs before we would win 20 games without our only all star. If our owner were cutting corners and fielding a cheap club (like we have done in years past) I would not be as irritated with our gm but the guy has a open checkbook and keeps buying average guys for maximum dollars who have terrible long term cap ramifications. Make no mistake I love the team and want a title as much as anyone but there are a lot of people who can see how Otis has steered this club in a bad direction not just me. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted April 1, 2011 Dwight is great, but he's not 40 wins great. No player is. Miami is absolutely nothing like the team they had last year, and a loss to either Wade or LeBron and they're most likely a 40 win team and 1st round exit, as that team is so gutted and their bench is so poor they wouldn't be able to rely on Wade/LeBon and Bosh to score 80 pts a game. Oh, and while Cleveland's cast wasn't very good offensively (sans LeBron) they were still a very good defensive squad which is why they were able to win 60+ games, not because LeBron single handedly carried them to wins. Lakers without Kobe are most likely a 40 win team, which is not good at all, and I find it odd that you don't think that since you have such a fetish for team's payrolls. Both Dallas and the Lakers are the league's top 2 teams in payroll, and both teams would be average to below average (< 40 wins) without their superstars. Bynum and Gasol aren't superstars, Bynum is hardly even an all-star since he's never healthy. Not sure why you keep mentioning him. That entire Boston squad was gotten off of a terribly one-sided trade and the team sucking for nearly 20 years. Chicago is close to the same, although they got lucky drafting and were able to pick up Boozer. I doubt anyone thinks Otis has done a great job but to say he has done a terrible job is not only short sighted, but it's incredibly naive and almost dangerously stupid. Getting a 2nd star to a superstar of Dwight's caliber isn't easy. He's good enough to make sure you never draft in the upper 15s, and he warrants enough want and need for a championship so that the owner can't just go "okay let's suck for 3-4 years and get cap space for another max player then" because I doubt Dwight would've ever wanted to stay with the team if the GM had taken that dangerous route of tanking and saving up for FA. Your ability to judge things in hindsight isn't special. We can all talk about how certain trades didn't work AFTER they didn't work, but when you at least attempt to see things from the time they took place, it's hard to say all he has done was mess up or be downright awful. This is still a team that has gone to the ECF twice and won its first ever Finals game. And I guarantee you the reason why the team has gone so far isn't solely because of Dwight. A great example would be the Bobcats series last year. You talk so much about how awful the Magic would be without Dwight but in the playoff series they swept a playoff team with Dwight averaging 25 or something minutes a game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Air Gordon 156 Report post Posted April 1, 2011 Bring in Skip to my Lou!! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orlando Magic Toaster 26 Report post Posted April 1, 2011 PG is definitely an issue, Jammer is good and it has been said on many occasions he does a lot in the background for the team but I think Magic need a more flexible guard, someone like rondo, rose, westbrook, williams etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babir_9 95 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 we had only one PG against Charlotte, if Duhon's injury is serious we definitely need another guard, preferebly someone who can play both guards positions... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller4Prez66 545 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 I doubt we sign anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babir_9 95 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 I doubt we sign anyone. agree...but I would love to see us bringing one more big (we had to do it earlier in the season) and one veteran guard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My 6th Rebuild 6 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 RAFER ALSTON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGtvM6qi7I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiting For That Day 49 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 RAFER ALSTON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGtvM6qi7I Not even fair... I'll take Rafer Alston back with wide open arms. I like Jameer and its not a knock on him but Stan couldn't let go of his man crush for him and had to ***** **** up by starting him in the finals when the Alston/Johnson pg tandem got us to the finals.... You don't start someone that hasn't played half the season to make his return in the finals of all places and that was the worse timing to do so and ultimately costed us the ring imo.... If you argue other wise your just kidding yourself :svgsad: Rafer Alston came in and fit in the system like a tampon with wings for those that suffer from pms ;) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UEBERMORTAL 125 Report post Posted April 2, 2011 Yeah, let's bring in Larry Hughes! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
