Magic going in for Chris Paul

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Gortat is indeed a solid Center but I think we should all hold judgement before we even consider him as one of the top centers.

 

BTW who is our back-up center? Don't hope we will reactivate Adonal...

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Luol Deng at the SF position would make them stronger

 

What about our rook Robinson, he is comparable to Deng. He will improve in the next years to come, why slowing down his developement?

[COLOMBIANO 118]

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Originally posted by Beast_Mode:

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Originally posted by COLOMBIANO:

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Originally posted by Beast_Mode:

Greetings, it's 5 am and I can't sleep. I have been reading these threads for months on end and I finally decided to open an account. Here is what I think Otis is trying to accomplish:

 

He realizes that the current squad is still a contender and with a few pieces here and there, (possibly Allen, Watson) Orlando could very well possibly make it back to the finals. However, here is the catch....if LBJ, CB4, and Wade all decide to somehow join Chicago, this could spell trouble for Orlando. While Chicago currently isn't in a position to sign all 3, this isn't to say they couldn't indeed pull it off. Otis Smith realizes this, hence the reason he has decided to sit on his hands and wait. Smith realizes that it would be foolish to create the perfect storm in chicago by showing his cards too early. This is why he is putting on the Poker face. If Chitown pulls off a miracle, I believe Otis will most likely obtain CP3 at all costs, even if it means taking on Okafor and Posey.

 

Now, on to the good stuff. Assuming this "superteam" actually comes to fruition and that OS somehow pulls off a trade for CP3, this is how I see the remainder of his moves going:

 

I believe the only reason OS may be considering to take on Okafor's contract is so that he can somehow wheel and deal a trade for Hedo Turkoglu. Toronto understands that they foolishly signed Turkoglu to a lucrative deal and that obtaining a big in Okafor with a similar contract is the only way they can get rid of Turkoglu. I don't believe the media statements released by Turkoglu one bit, in terms of him accepting his role in Toronto. On top of that, I would not be shocked if OS went ahead and traded Gortat to Chicago for Luol Deng, which would have to include some other pieces here and there to make it work financially. The Bulls have made it quite clear they are in search of a legitimate center and the beauty of this trade is the fact that Gortat's trade value appears to be even more of a bargain to other teams, especially when you have teams like Toronto paying more money for half the talent of Gortat. The pressure to save cap room while obtaining a legit center will probably cause the Bulls to let Deng go. In a sense Smith could decide to help the Bulls strengthen their roster because he believes his team will be slightly better anyways. The lineups would look like this:

 

Orlando

Chris Paul

Hedo Turkoglu/Reddick

Luol Deng/Posey

Rashard Lewis

Dwight Howard

 

Chicago:

Derrick Rose

Dwayne Wade

Lebron James

Chris Bosh

Noah/Gortat

 

I have read many people state that they are hoping for Lewis to move back to the three. I somewhat disagree with this, not because I don't think he can succeed (it is his natural position to begin with) but rather because his ability to stretch the floor is so vital to the Magic's style of play. With a playmaker in Chris Paul and a dominant big in Dwight, guys like Lewis and turkoglu would have a field day. Also, I believe a combination of CP3 and Turk can indeed work. Many believe turkoglu is inneffective without the ball in his hands but this isn't true at all. When he played for the Magic two seasons ago he only ran the point position when Nelson was out. Orlando was so depleted in the pg position that Turk HAD to handle the ball.

 

Just thought I might provide some insight for my first post lol.

 

1- I don't want to imagine Hedo guarding Wade

2- Sending Gortat will only make the Bulls better and I doubt Otis is that stupid.

 

 

1. DWADE is unstoppable regardless of who is gaurding him. Hedo gaurding Wade is a non factor when you have the two-time defensive player of the year on your team, along with one of the top PG's when it comes to steals.

 

2. Orlando obtaining Luol Deng at the SF position would make them stronger 1-5 in comparison to the bulls. Why? Well let's put it this way....Orlando knows what style of play works for them and OS will have players who strive in such a system. The Bulls on the other hand, would have two offensive players who are both use to being #1 options along with CB4 who is known for his offense not defense. Last time I checked there is one basketball in a basketball game. Lewis would be able to force Bosh out of his comfort zone and deng would at least force LBJ to play defense. We all witnessed what happens when the opposing teams best player doesn't have to play defense (Pierce defending Barnes / Carter). Dwight vs. Gortat LOL come on now. Gortat is indeed a solid Center but I think we should all hold judgement before we even consider him as one of the top centers. Oh and yea Paul > Rose all day everyday.

 

Wade is unstoppable, but making Hedo guard him is simply a horrible idea. Hedo is a slow SF and defending Wade will make tired and not efficient at all in the offensive end.

 

Deng could make us a little better, but if you think Gortat is garbage, why would they want him then? Gortat is a very good back up given good minutes and he could be a solid defender against Howard.

 

Have you seen Lewis' stats against Chris Bosh? Have you seen Bosh's stats against Rashard Lewis? Please look at them and see the kind of numbers Bosh puts up against us. Yeah, there is only one ball, but Bosh has dominated Lewis over the past 2 years.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

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Originally posted by COLOMBIANO:

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Originally posted by Beast_Mode:

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Originally posted by COLOMBIANO:

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Originally posted by Beast_Mode:

Greetings, it's 5 am and I can't sleep. I have been reading these threads for months on end and I finally decided to open an account. Here is what I think Otis is trying to accomplish:

 

He realizes that the current squad is still a contender and with a few pieces here and there, (possibly Allen, Watson) Orlando could very well possibly make it back to the finals. However, here is the catch....if LBJ, CB4, and Wade all decide to somehow join Chicago, this could spell trouble for Orlando. While Chicago currently isn't in a position to sign all 3, this isn't to say they couldn't indeed pull it off. Otis Smith realizes this, hence the reason he has decided to sit on his hands and wait. Smith realizes that it would be foolish to create the perfect storm in chicago by showing his cards too early. This is why he is putting on the Poker face. If Chitown pulls off a miracle, I believe Otis will most likely obtain CP3 at all costs, even if it means taking on Okafor and Posey.

 

Now, on to the good stuff. Assuming this "superteam" actually comes to fruition and that OS somehow pulls off a trade for CP3, this is how I see the remainder of his moves going:

 

I believe the only reason OS may be considering to take on Okafor's contract is so that he can somehow wheel and deal a trade for Hedo Turkoglu. Toronto understands that they foolishly signed Turkoglu to a lucrative deal and that obtaining a big in Okafor with a similar contract is the only way they can get rid of Turkoglu. I don't believe the media statements released by Turkoglu one bit, in terms of him accepting his role in Toronto. On top of that, I would not be shocked if OS went ahead and traded Gortat to Chicago for Luol Deng, which would have to include some other pieces here and there to make it work financially. The Bulls have made it quite clear they are in search of a legitimate center and the beauty of this trade is the fact that Gortat's trade value appears to be even more of a bargain to other teams, especially when you have teams like Toronto paying more money for half the talent of Gortat. The pressure to save cap room while obtaining a legit center will probably cause the Bulls to let Deng go. In a sense Smith could decide to help the Bulls strengthen their roster because he believes his team will be slightly better anyways. The lineups would look like this:

 

Orlando

Chris Paul

Hedo Turkoglu/Reddick

Luol Deng/Posey

Rashard Lewis

Dwight Howard

 

Chicago:

Derrick Rose

Dwayne Wade

Lebron James

Chris Bosh

Noah/Gortat

 

I have read many people state that they are hoping for Lewis to move back to the three. I somewhat disagree with this, not because I don't think he can succeed (it is his natural position to begin with) but rather because his ability to stretch the floor is so vital to the Magic's style of play. With a playmaker in Chris Paul and a dominant big in Dwight, guys like Lewis and turkoglu would have a field day. Also, I believe a combination of CP3 and Turk can indeed work. Many believe turkoglu is inneffective without the ball in his hands but this isn't true at all. When he played for the Magic two seasons ago he only ran the point position when Nelson was out. Orlando was so depleted in the pg position that Turk HAD to handle the ball.

 

Just thought I might provide some insight for my first post lol.

 

1- I don't want to imagine Hedo guarding Wade

2- Sending Gortat will only make the Bulls better and I doubt Otis is that stupid.

 

 

1. DWADE is unstoppable regardless of who is gaurding him. Hedo gaurding Wade is a non factor when you have the two-time defensive player of the year on your team, along with one of the top PG's when it comes to steals.

 

2. Orlando obtaining Luol Deng at the SF position would make them stronger 1-5 in comparison to the bulls. Why? Well let's put it this way....Orlando knows what style of play works for them and OS will have players who strive in such a system. The Bulls on the other hand, would have two offensive players who are both use to being #1 options along with CB4 who is known for his offense not defense. Last time I checked there is one basketball in a basketball game. Lewis would be able to force Bosh out of his comfort zone and deng would at least force LBJ to play defense. We all witnessed what happens when the opposing teams best player doesn't have to play defense (Pierce defending Barnes / Carter). Dwight vs. Gortat LOL come on now. Gortat is indeed a solid Center but I think we should all hold judgement before we even consider him as one of the top centers. Oh and yea Paul > Rose all day everyday.

 

Wade is unstoppable, but making Hedo guard him is simply a horrible idea. Hedo is a slow SF and defending Wade will make tired and not efficient at all in the offensive end.

 

Deng could make us a little better, but if you think Gortat is garbage, why would they want him then? Gortat is a very good back up given good minutes and he could be a solid defender against Howard.

 

Have you seen Lewis' stats against Chris Bosh? Have you seen Bosh's stats against Rashard Lewis? Please look at them and see the kind of numbers Bosh puts up against us. Yeah, there is only one ball, but Bosh has dominated Lewis over the past 2 years.

 

nah, lewis plays bosh well.

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nah, lewis plays bosh well.

 

Lewis plays Bosh? Most of the time Bosh is guarded by Dwight, or am I wrong?

[ThisIsTheYear 241]

5:00 a.m.? Jesus.

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Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:

5:00 a.m.? Jesus.

 

03:15 p.m. in Germany

[COLOMBIANO 118]

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Originally posted by ExoCore:

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nah, lewis plays bosh well.

 

Lewis plays Bosh? Most of the time Bosh is guarded by Dwight, or am I wrong?

 

You are. He may defend him late in the game, but for the most part it was Nesterovic or some other sucker

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What happen to all this`talk of boozer

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This thread is so bad now. The stew is cold, the Marching Gortat's parade is over and it feels like a dry, stale waiting room now.

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Another thing to keep in mind with the CP3/N.O. situation... it's not just about cap space, it's also how many millions are they losing?

 

The CP3/Okafor/Posey deal would save them like 70 million over a few years!

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Originally posted by A BETTER DJ:

Another thing to keep in mind with the CP3/N.O. situation... it's not just about cap space, it's also how many millions are they losing?

 

The CP3/Okafor/Posey deal would save them like 70 million over a few years!

I definitely think that we still have a solid chance to land CP3 until the 9th. Anytime after that, its a fair chance for every team wanting him already. TPE expires on the 9th..