t1meband1t 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 quote: Originally posted by fishybashi:Sign and trade: Gortat, Carter, and JJ for D. Wade and M. Beasley The Magic need to find a way to somehow move Carter. He is not in the equation in my book. The team needs a player who can "take over" a game. I think Otis will trade for or try to get: 1) CJ Watson 2) Gilbert Arenas re: No way! DeVos would never approve of Arenas imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strepsil 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=273fduu That's a perfect trade for the 3 team !! Paul Lee Lewis Anderson Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strepsil 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 or Paul Carter Lewis Anderson D12 JWill Lee JJ Barnes Gortat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strepsil 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 thas to funny http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fzv7m5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 50 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Strepsil:thas to funny http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fzv7m5 is this serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ufballer86 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 collison for anderson. posey for TPE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 50 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ufballer86:collison for anderson. posey for TPE financially this would be good for the hornets. the only problem is that they may feel like they could get more for collison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharp/7/shooter 23 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fmm7hf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 50 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fmm7hf why would the hawks do this? why would we do this? why would 2 teams in the same division who finished 1,2 help the other get better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharp/7/shooter 23 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fmm7hf why would the hawks do this? why would we do this? why would 2 teams in the same division who finished 1,2 help the other get better? The Hawks would benefit from acquiring a starter caliber center on the rise (Gortat) and a scorer that can help them win games. They need someone to put the ball in the basket from the 2 spot when Joe Johnson leaves, or to at least help an incoming FA. The Hawks are in dire need of a big that can be effective from the center position and Oden isn't reliable at all. Oden has played well while healthy, but we all know that he is VERY injury prone. Horford is a natural PF playing at the center position and it is a high priority to get him playing in his rightful position. The Hawks also benefit from gaining a banger in the post (Bass) that they can utilize (remember how much value Bass had in the market last offseason). The Magic take in an absolute athlete and close friend to Dwight Howard (Smith). Can you imagine the defense our team would have with both Dwight and Josh Smith patrolling the cup? He is a high flier with a mid range jumper and his post game continues to improve. We also acquire Marvin Williams, a successful wing that can start if need be. He has a terrific outside shot and can score at the rim as well. He is a solid defender that would fit well into our lineups. And Zaza...we can utilize him when Dwight gets into foul trouble or when he needs a rest. He is a serviceable backup that will be willing to get rough in the paint. He can create fouls and dish them out as well. EDIT: The lineups are hard to predict because of the FA fiasco and how the Hawks have so many expiring contracts. I guess it'd look like this: MAGIC Nelson/FA or Draft Prospect M. Williams/J.J. Redick Lewis/Barnes/Pietrus/M. Williams/ Smith/Lewis/Anderson/Zaza Dwight/Zaza HAWKS Bibby/Teague FA or Crawford/West/Carter Carter or FA/FA or Carter Horford/Bass/Smith Gortat/Bass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hindsight 50 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter: quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fmm7hf why would the hawks do this? why would we do this? why would 2 teams in the same division who finished 1,2 help the other get better? The Hawks would benefit from acquiring a starter caliber center on the rise (Gortat) and a scorer that can help them win games. They need someone to put the ball in the basket from the 2 spot when Joe Johnson leaves, or to at least help an incoming FA. The Hawks are in dire need of a big that can be effective from the center position and Oden isn't reliable at all. Oden has played well while healthy, but we all know that he is VERY injury prone. Horford is a natural PF playing at the center position and it is a high priority to get him playing in his rightful position. The Hawks also benefit from gaining a banger in the post (Bass) that they can utilize (remember how much value Bass had in the market last offseason). The Magic take in an absolute athlete and close friend to Dwight Howard (Smith). Can you imagine the defense our team would have with both Dwight and Josh Smith patrolling the cup? He is a high flier with a mid range jumper and his post game continues to improve. We also acquire Marvin Williams, a successful wing that can start if need be. He has a terrific outside shot and can score at the rim as well. He is a solid defender that would fit well into our lineups. And Zaza...we can utilize him when Dwight gets into foul trouble or when he needs a rest. He is a serviceable backup that will be willing to get rough in the paint. He can create fouls and dish them out as well. still doesn't answer the question as to why either teams do this trade when we're in the same division. it doesn't make sense for either side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharp/7/shooter 23 Report post Posted June 12, 2010 quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter: quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by sharp[7]shooter:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/t...hine?tradeId=2fmm7hf why would the hawks do this? why would we do this? why would 2 teams in the same division who finished 1,2 help the other get better? The Hawks would benefit from acquiring a starter caliber center on the rise (Gortat) and a scorer that can help them win games. They need someone to put the ball in the basket from the 2 spot when Joe Johnson leaves, or to at least help an incoming FA. The Hawks are in dire need of a big that can be effective from the center position and Oden isn't reliable at all. Oden has played well while healthy, but we all know that he is VERY injury prone. Horford is a natural PF playing at the center position and it is a high priority to get him playing in his rightful position. The Hawks also benefit from gaining a banger in the post (Bass) that they can utilize (remember how much value Bass had in the market last offseason). The Magic take in an absolute athlete and close friend to Dwight Howard (Smith). Can you imagine the defense our team would have with both Dwight and Josh Smith patrolling the cup? He is a high flier with a mid range jumper and his post game continues to improve. We also acquire Marvin Williams, a successful wing that can start if need be. He has a terrific outside shot and can score at the rim as well. He is a solid defender that would fit well into our lineups. And Zaza...we can utilize him when Dwight gets into foul trouble or when he needs a rest. He is a serviceable backup that will be willing to get rough in the paint. He can create fouls and dish them out as well. still doesn't answer the question as to why either teams do this trade when we're in the same division. it doesn't make sense for either side. The Hawks are basically rebuilding. They may be in denial of this, but they need to face facts. Joe Johnson is probably not coming back and they were already shopping Josh Smith. They need to go hard on this FA pool or bust OR trade with a team that can better themselves. IMO, in this situation, it boils past being in the same division. We see that the Hawks are changing the faces of their franchise, and we can take advantage of some of their weapons that are most likely going to leave. If you were the Hawks, why wouldn't you want to have a veteran scorer in Carter who could accept a lesser role (well, what does he expect after that playoff performance) alongside a FA acquisition? How do you deny two stud big men, one of which can start for your team immediately? Not to mention Gortat is working his *** off this summer to become a better player and further his potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites