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Justin Jaudon

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  1. 5 hours ago, Odin said:

    I don't want to seem mean here, but have you ever looked at how you present yourself on the board, rather than immediately jumping to a having victim persecution complex? Have you thought of why these posts are getting down-votes or negative reactions to them? Is it just that people on the board are mean and bullies, or maybe something else?

    I am not necessarily saying that all of the comments responding to your posts are worth paying attention to. At the end of the day, it is your choice on what you pay attention to and what you take from everything. But maybe take a moment and try to learn from what other people may be trying to tell you. Not everyone is out to get you.

    Now maybe ML6 was a little overboard with his post, but people give each other crap on this board all of the time. You can either take it with a sense of humor or react negatively to it. But what was your reaction? To not only take the post personally, but to also react negatively and dismissively to what Lebron is doing, when he really seems to be trying to do something good for his community- and to do something I think most of us respect- to do something for struggling and under-served children.


    I tried this weeks ago with TMF. It's not going to work. Sees every bit of constructive criticism as a personal attack. Massive persecution complex.

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  2. 3 hours ago, ?4thewin said:


    That's just... I mean... I didn't think I'd ever hear an NBA player sound quite that stupid about basketball. They don't pay people to play defense? Somebody should tell that to Dwight Howard, Hassan Whiteside, Otto Porter Jr., Al Horford, Mike Conley, and Paul Millsap; they don't get paid top 25 money because of their stellar offense. They get paid either because they are elite defensive players with passable offense, or they're very good at both ends of the floor, but not quite good enough on one end to warrant such high pay. Even among the younger guys in his own rookie class, does he think Gordon makes 20 per year for his 17 points per game alone, or that Marcus Smart gets reportedly more than $10 million per despite being one of the worst shooters for his really good offensive screens?

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  3. 6 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

    Can we have a guy exceed their expectations? That would be nice mr moneyball. 

    I don't have a problem with?4thewin's comments. He's not getting excited over a guy who has yet to win a starting job in the NBA. I get it. I'm just saying I think it might be Jerian4thewin by the end of the season. He's not going to be an All-Star, but I think he can be a PG version of his uncle Horace: a does all the little things that help you win guy who fans love.

  4. 22 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    Nah. Grant isn't an elite defender. None of the defensive metrics support that. 

    The expectations for Grant should be a pretty solid backup. Nothing more. 

    Grant is absolutely elite at defending the PnR, which is the most important thing for a PG these days, defensively; and he's strong enough on the switch not to get blown up by bigger guys. He is elite at a lot of the small things that don't show up on the stat sheets. He's an average rebounder, only slightly above average with steals, so metrics don't like him as much. But as an on-ball defender, something metrics have a hard time showing, yes, he is elite.

  5. 2 hours ago, ?4thewin said:

    He's a slightly better/younger/cheaper Shelvin Mack. Don't get carried away

    But he's much, much more physically gifted than Mack. Dude is super-athletic. And last year he showed tremendous strides as a passer. Offensively, Grant, if he doesn't take another step forward, if a better Mack. But he's a very gifted athlete who is already one of the best on-ball defenders in the league at the guard spot. Mack topped out as a good backup because he didn't have the size, quickness, speed, and athleticism to overcome his shortcomings as a shooter on offense, and defensively he's only just above average with lateral movement. Grant has those things at elite levels. He's basically an elite athlete guard who lacks the skills to be elite offensively. It's why he's so intriguing to me. Skills can be learned, acquired, built up. I think he has the mentality to make a jump, if anyone does. He really could surprise people.

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  6. 4 minutes ago, chosen12 said:

    Well, I am not sure if by agreeing that this FO is pulling our fat out of the flame, is just not exciting enough for you?

    It is possible that being down as long as we have, that it becomes complicated to get excited about anything that they do. Especially if you believe that all gains made will ultimately, at some point come crashing to the floor again, and we are back into the Ground Hog Day experience.

    Understandable, but I think we are turning a corner, and soon will wash the bad after taste left behind by Henny and company, will be nothing MORE than bad memories! 

    However, I do respect your position.

    I think we may be misunderstanding each other. I'm excited about Orlando's future. I just don't think we'll be spending a bunch of money next off-season, even if we have it. I'm expecting patience, and that's okay with me.

  7. 6 minutes ago, chosen12 said:

    Well Sir, I do understand how you have come to your determination(s) here, but what I think is missing is that the bad deals such as the VO trade that brought back a Serge Ebaka that did not care to be here in the end!

    Reversing the Biz contract even in the slightest amount is, in my estimation a win. Now Sir, if at the end of this season, we are in the area of 30 mill in cap space, I would further suggest that we are in a far better place than what the previous management team would have left us.

    Now add to that a team/player friendly contract with AG, and the blueprint that the current FO has set in place........ looks great to me, I can't wait to see what these minds do when they have real $$ to spend.


    I wouldn't get too excited. The reason this FO is so much better than the last is that they don't seem the type to spend money just to spend it. We'll more likely keep our options open and build through smart contracts and good moves... hopefully... unless something major falls to us. I could see us trying to make noise in 2020 or 2021 FA. Not so much next year.

  8. 5 hours ago, HeHateMe said:

    His problem is his physical limitations. He’s going to always struggle creating space on offense and defending on defense. That has nothing to do with age. He’s gonna be an inefficient scorer whose extremely hot/cold. 

    To be fair (from someone who didn't really want Trae either), this is pretty much exactly what I remember many people say about Kemba. Like, almost word for word.

  9. 1 minute ago, chosen12 said:

    Absolutely! Now, I just read somewhere that with the Vuc and TRoss contracts expiring, along with rookie contract of Grant 2.9 mil, we may have close to 30 Million in cap space going into 2019? 

    What does your estimates reflect? If that is the case, this FO is just positioning us to swing for the fences in 2019, don't you think?

    To keep the baseball terminology, I don't think this FO is planning to swing for the fences unless someone puts an easy one over the plate. Unless some big name falls in our laps for some weird reason, I doubt we're setting up for a big spending spree.

    Why? Because Victor Oladipo, that's why. We traded Dipo because we didn't want to pay him. We had the cap space, but Hennigan wasn't confident in his own build (because there wasn't a good plan in place, a team concept beyond 'good player' who can't shoot). So he tried to swing for the fences and lost what turned out to be his best talent. The great thing about consistently hitting singles is that when you do hit a home run, the bases are often loaded.

    Take the Isaac pick last year. I didn't like it. It was safe. In a vacuum, I still think DSJ might be the BPA at that point. But I didn't understand how this management team works, then. I'm starting to, I think. See, DSJ might have been the BPA, the swing for the fences pick I would have liked. But he didn't fit what the FO was looking for. So they just got contact, as they say. Singled out, maybe doubled, with Isaac. But with Gordon already on base, we had now two on. Bamba makes it three on. With the bases loaded, you don't swing at everything that comes to you. You wait for it. Maybe this trade is a single, and we get a run in (maybe Jerian turns out to be a solid starter). Maybe it's a foul down the line, and we stay at bat. But we're not swinging at Isaiah Thomas, because that's not what the FO is looking for. Going for Isaiah Thomas at this point is like trying to take a slider yard when we're looking for it high and over the plate. Sure, maybe we get good contact and bring everyone in. More likely we fly out.

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  10. 10 minutes ago, Franchise408 said:

    It's Summer League. It literally means nothing.

    Insert more of those laughing emoji's here.

    I feel the fanboyism is super high to believe that Gordon or Osaac are better scorers than Thomas.

    Last season, Gordon was virtually equal per 36, but more efficient . Even inefficient Gordon was basically just as good a scorer. Gordon is Young and should improve. Thomas is older and injured, less likely to bounce back.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, Ibn Battuta said:

    we disagree on the definition of risk.

    If he doesn't prove he's at least capable of being in the rotation, then we aren't going to give him a QO. We will have wasted a year on a PG who will not be on our roster next year, AND wasted our 2nd round pick (whichever it is the 2019 or 2020 one). That time could have been given to another player, or the pick could have been used elsewhere. That is a big risk. Don't count on Mozgov to do anything but cheerlead. 

    There is almost no chance he's not capable of being in the rotation. Do you know anything about this kid? He was one of the better backup PGs in the league last year. He's just about to enter his prime, and he's improved every year. Even if it does happen that he can't contribute, you're considering risking a second round pick on a guy who's almost definitely at least a really solid back-up to be a big risk? Really? What do you think we should be getting with second round picks?

  12. 8 minutes ago, Ibn Battuta said:

    Grant is now on his third team in what will be four seasons.

    Isaiah Thomas, Kyle Lowry, and Goran Dragic all played on three teams by the time they were 26. Just saying. Sometimes it takes a while for a PG to get it all together, and often guys who haven't put it together but look like they have potential get traded because they have value.

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  13. I feel like there's a good argument to be made that Jerian was the better PG on the Bulls last year. And the age difference between him and Dunn is negligible. If we'd gotten Kris Dunn, people would be very excited, acting like we got a possible future starter. What is really the difference between the two? Dunn gets more steals, but he turns the ball over way more. Jerian is coming off a very solid season, and he's improved visibly every year in the league.

  14. 11 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:

    Dipo/Harris/AG < Issac/AG/Bamba 

    I disagree so far. But only because I have a very high opinion of Dipo. I think he'll get better against double teams (why not? He's gotten better at everything else), and be a top 10 guy in the league. He's a rare two-way guard who can be an elite scorer and defender. There are very few of those in history.

  15. Just now, HeHateMe said:

    I feel like Marcus Smart starting and running this offense would be awful. He’s nice off the bench and a great gritty defender but his scoring is EP bad. 

    And you could absolutely be right. But I never thought scoring was what made EP bad (at least, not the biggest thing). EP couldn't/wouldn't (both?) defend consistently. The problem with Smart is that his offense is actually worse than EP's, because he takes just way too many bad shots. EP knew his limitations (perhaps too well) on offense, and thus played timid. That hurt. But is it worst to be timid or overconfident? Depends just how bad a shooter you are, I guess.