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  1. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    This guy apparently can't even remember firing probably the most important team that could have helped curb this disaster. Jesus Christ.
  2. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    No other countries did it? Well that's not true at all. When you look at countries that have proper PPE and robust testing like South Korea, you see the minimal deaths it's causing there. This is not a hindsight 20/20 thing. This is absolute failure. There have been multiple reports of people warning him about this from before the first case even came to the country. He didn't even give himself a chance because he actually fired the guy who's supposed to blow the whistle for us when pandemics are starting to form in China He didn't act on it because he isn't nuanced enough in daily world affairs to actually understand that these things take proper planning. It's why you don't have a fake billionaire who's bankrupted so many companies because of poor planning and asset management actually run an entire country such as the USA -- because running a country is not even close to running a business.
  3. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    If you only knew how badly trump failed this country at the onset of this outbreak ...that’s ok you guys aren’t the ones actively fighting against this without proper PPE in areas where the virus is heavily concentrated Everything thus far has been a step late and it’s costing not only lives On the front line but also prolonging the length of these measures. this guy was talking about it being a democratic hoax when he should have been preparing companies to be spitting out tests and protective equipment a month ahead of time.
  4. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Time I think..
  5. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    My hospital is already overflowed and we had to create new ICU beds.
  6. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    I don't think anyone's going to laugh. We're all gonna hurt here. This isn't a laughing matter, at least to me. Im hoping that as we start doing the right thing, we will get past this like every other issue that's plagued us in the past, no pun intended. Lets reconvene on this issue in 2 months. If we all aren't placed in concentration camps, you can send me a can of coke.
  7. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    You were basically saying that the tests diagnosing more people than actually have it, as if furthering this is a conspiracy to "pump up the numbers" so people can panic.
  8. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    You do understand that practically every diagnostic test in medicine has a false positive and false negative rate? Considering the battery of different tests coming out almost daily, im sure some tests are better than others. Add to that that China has always been dubious in reporting anything -- I don't trust anything coming out of that country -- they were the ones arresting those trying to sound the alarms in november. That's not a conspiracy theory lol. This has actually been a concern for us right now as physicians because of the amount of tests coming out. Reliability is something were trying to assess here while also pumping out the number of tests so we can start diagnosing people who have it. But people mildly ill literally need no treatment, just self isolation. The people critically ill in the ICU are the ones recieving treatments. Some working, some aren't.
  9. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Yup, 195 countries, including all their scientists and doctors, including enemy countries of the United States, are all uniting just to falsely test for Coronavirus. Donald Trump, the enemy of the deep state, is also now in on this! This may be the biggest conspiracy in the history of the Universe. Just ignore him dude. This is for real, scientific discussion here. We can't be wasting time on conspiracy theory fantasies.
  10. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    The main difference is S. Korea has tested right away and running through thousands of tests daily; Nearly 20,000 people are being tested every day. We aren't. We still aren't. We're way behind. This is the missing piece right now. I ask again, considering all the information you now have with regards to mortality and the critically ill, including those under the age of 50 and also taking into consideration the lack of tests we have, what would you do?
  11. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Right, Italy has been on complete lockdown so to say a significant portion of their population hasn’t been affected as of today —well — this is actually a testament that lockdowns actually work in some capacity. Second, I’d love to hear other ideas on what to do considering what I’ve already posted previously.
  12. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Yeah but where do you pick and choose? I just showed you an article that in most developed countries, people admitted to the ICU, 50% are under the ages of 50-65. Anyone requiring admission to an ICU means they have a more severe illness and now has a higher risk of dying; they now require closer monitoring and critical care nursing quickly to have a chance to make it out alive. Not controlling this disease for ages 20-44 eventually does harm because it now puts more pressure on the healthcare system -- this population is gonna get sicker and eventually STILL pass it on to older patients, the people you want to protect. That's because this is spread in a chain reaction -- one person infects another person, and in turn that person can spread it to 10 other people. That will spread through grandkids, kids, family members, and eventually familes. See that New Jersey Family that just had 4 people die from a family gathering. And that's a problem -- to stop this virus we essentially have to stop everyone. Asymptomatic people are the invisible spreaders -- and these compromise 80% of those that are infected right now. Those are the people driving this. Compound to that our lack of tests, we cant properly identify them. Letting them spread it freely will then spiral everything out of control. The reason this virus has people freak out is because it has a unique combination of virulence and infectability with not so easy to ignore mortality rate. Also, are you saying let the people younger than 60 should go out and just risk their life? When we don't even know the true numbers yet as this is the beginning? We obviously don't have the exact mortality rates, but remember, we have to use the numbers we have and the numbers other countries, who have tested more than we have, to get an average of those numbers. Michael Olsterholm made a fantastic point when he said even this number doesn't change the fact that we have a high risk population in the United States - obese people: Now that you know what's at stake, i'd like to know what you propose to do instead of flattening the curve while we catch up? Remember, once we catch up like China has, we can reopen the economy like they plan to do.
  13. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Of course. I am not advocating ignoring one side of the equation. But I think what most people fail to understand here is that we failed as a country because our federal government didn't do enough before the outbreak and at the beginning of the outbreak. All these draconian measures are there to make up for lost time. We could have avoided this entire scenario with the right team and protocol in place. Secondly, we're seeing more and more data that this isnt harmless and people under the age of 60. This is why we can't just focus on a high risk population -- the only people not at risk are those under the age of 20. And here is proof of that data: If the worst case scenarios come true, we're gonna run out of ventilators And remember, this is just the beginning here. We haven't reached peak infection. Right now our mortality rate is 1.5%, but were still lagging behind since the virus can cause serious illness 2 weeks after onset. Once the hospital systems get overwhelmed, that mortality rate is gonna skyrocket. Third, it's hard to apply any herd immunity models on a novel virus. That's because we really don't know if people are going to be immune. Similar to getting the flu, it may not make you immune to getting it again the next flu season. And the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1% here. This is something that can surely kill 2-3% of the population. The UK already considered this but now they’re backing off of it. Why? Look there's no good answer here. The fact of the matter is, part of the reason were in this atrocious predicament is due to the bungling of this situation from the federal government. It's them we should be angry at. Doctors and other experts are being asked now what to do to combat it now that we're late -- and unfortunately this is the only feasible answer.
  14. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Right, I saw that...but that to me is fascist government officials trying to take advantage of an emergency situation. Remember this is the guy calling this a hoax just a few weeks ago. He wasn’t secretly planning this. Also you might want to read this about another failure of the administration https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN21910S?__twitter_impression=true
  15. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    I get it man, and I agree with you. The hoarding is freaking ridiculous and I blame the media for that part.
  16. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    His response wasn't fine. And your not aware of those cuts because you didnt do the research.
  17. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    I’m telling you we’re far behind on testing. Once testing is up to date the numbers will skyrocket BECAUSE ITS SPREADING LIKE CRAZY. oh please do not say physicians and virologists are saying otherwise. The overwhelming majority of physicians and virologists would shake their head at your statements. Maybe because I work with so many. So please continue to tell me what I see at work lol
  18. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Uh, those go hand in hand. The number of tests will detect rising numbers because it is spreading like crazy. You can’t have one without the other. i think I got my point across to you. If anyone else has questions I’d be happy to answer.
  19. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    His response wasn’t fine. We didn’t have enough tests, he had already cut the CDC funding by 80%, already had disbanded the pandemic team set up before him, called this a hoax, said it’s under control and the numbers would go down to 0. He didn’t order enough medical equipment, and didn’t order enough tests. We are a much bigger country than Italy and we have are fair share of unhealthy people here. Saying otherwise is completely misleading. South Korea treated the situation better. Everyone is treating patients the same since there is no cure right now besides trying medicines that may work and putting people on vents. They stockpiled tests (unlike us), isolated those infected, and when those people got sick, they had enough health care personnel to manage them because they stopped the spread early. Draconian measures SHOULDNT have been needed if we took action from December. But we didn’t. And now we’re making up for lost time. this is an epic fail by the federal government.
  20. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Wait I thought trump was supposed to be at odds with the deep state? Seems like he’s following orders by sounding the alarms also your first article is showing why the death rate is higher and why it’s preferentially killing older people...because older people are likelier to have Comorbid Disease . The United States is far from a fit and healthy country. and the reason South Korea is doing better is because they tested form the beginning. we have a complete shortage of tests..I should know, I’ve been sending people to get tested. We are making up for lost time because we DIDNT act quick enough. This whole shutdown wouldn’t be necessary if we actually did the right thing from January onward. Now we’re making up for last time with draconian measures.
  21. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Alrighty, I can take a hint on when someone has already made up their mind. If anyone else has any questions on this virus let me know.
  22. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Younger adults are large percentage of coronavirus hospitalizations in United States, according to new CDC data A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/19/younger-adults-are-large-percentage-coronavirus-hospitalizations-united-states-according-new-cdc-data/
  23. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Wrong, just wrong. Jesus Christ. You do realize that within 3 weeks we now have 26,909 cases right now within the US? That's going to be 65,000 confirmed cases by next week? That's an insane number of sick people within a short period of time.
  24. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    It's already started It's shameful what you're doing really. While healthcare workers are running out of PPE because the hospital systems are overwhelmed, your here spreading fake news about how it's not gonna happen.
  25. Gordon MVP

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    I've already discussed why we could become Italy, you just aren't listening. The reason Italy is in the shape they are in is because their hospital system is too overwhelmed. They didn't do enough to contain it at the onset. Right now, they have enough ventilators, ICU beds, medical personel to deal with that many sick people at the same time. Again, because you don't understand this concept, your making vague oversimplifications. No guys! Let's listen to the guy whos never worked or managed a hospital and doesn't even have a medical degree. He says the hospital system wont get overwhelmed! Rest assured that this is a recipe for a lot of people dying, quickly. In fact, when you extrapolate John Hopkins data comparing our numbers to Italy’s, their curve looks a lot like ours. So please tell me your opinion on this graph: And newsflash for you, our population within the US isn't that healthy. In fact, Obesity is a risk factor for ICU admision and death with coronavirus, and I don't need to put obesity statistics to you: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6304312/ You may take it as an insult, but frankly were tired of people who keep speaking outside their expertise. They spread false news and are probably the reason this virus is going to spread.
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