Kyler says the Redick/Haslem trade could happen - Update on page "2"

[Big EB 0]

I dont think miami would want dooling anymore because they aquired the rights to mario chalmers and he plays similar to dooling

[Bisayang Gamay 0]

Im sure , miami will deal haslem bcoz they have 3 PF on their team ..

 

hope we can land haslem but miami will nvr gonna trade it to us bcoz we are their division rival..

[Berto 338]

Some of you need to realize that a trade between Miami and Orlando will never happen unless it's completely lopsided in Riley's favor. There will be teams out there that will want Haslem, so it's not like Pat is desperate to trade him here.

[Soul Bro 1,419]

I think a sign-and-trade of Dooling, JJ, and a future 1st could possibly work. It is no secret that the Heat love Dooling. Could Miami do better? Sure, but they would probably have to take back more contracts (think Hinirch, etc.), which I've heard they are reluctant to do. Know this, Otis and SVG covet Haslem.

[Knappy 0]

quote:

Originally posted by Soul Bro:

I think a sign-and-trade of Dooling, JJ, and a future 1st could possibly work. It is no secret that the Heat love Dooling. Could Miami do better? Sure, but they would probably have to take back more contracts (think Hinirch, etc.), which I've heard they are reluctant to do. Know this, Otis and SVG covet Haslem.

 

Miami can make a run at Dooling without us - only benefit is if they don't make a run at him the Magic may sign him for less and Miami has a smaller salary to contend with in a trade.

 

I don't see any validity in this.

[KillingInTheNameOf 63]

quote:

Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

How can draft help JJ?

 

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/06/how-can-draft-p.html

 

 

I think the funniest quote that came from Otis in this draft was his comment that we will draft the BPA at #22 because it adds value to our franchise and it's an asset moving forward.

 

As if he has a history of getting value for assets.

[Soul Bro 1,419]

quote:

Originally posted by Knappy:

quote:

Originally posted by Soul Bro:

I think a sign-and-trade of Dooling, JJ, and a future 1st could possibly work. It is no secret that the Heat love Dooling. Could Miami do better? Sure, but they would probably have to take back more contracts (think Hinirch, etc.), which I've heard they are reluctant to do. Know this, Otis and SVG covet Haslem.

 

Miami can make a run at Dooling without us - only benefit is if they don't make a run at him the Magic may sign him for less and Miami has a smaller salary to contend with in a trade.

 

I don't see any validity in this.

 

Understandable, but doing it in a sign and trade would keep them from adding salary. I'll also say that a similar trade idea had real legs around the trade deadline, according to two sources.

[ball junkie 277]

I talked to Steve and asked him if he really thought there was a chance we could get Udonis. I also asked him if he was hearing 'anything' else about the Magic. Here was his comments:

 

quote:

The Magic told Courtney they did not draft him for him to sit, but he'd

have to earn his place... They did not tell Courtney JJ was gone, but did

hint that they did not expect their back court to be as crowded.

 

Mo Evans wants to return... Keyon wants to be paid... there are about 7

teams that have him high on their list including Miami and Washington,

neither will go full boat (Mid Level) for Keyon, but Keyon's dance card

will be full.

 

Carlos is toast...

 

As for Udonis, I still think a sign and trade with Keyon and JJ Reddick

get you Udonis - there are not enough minutes - the thing is I do not see

it happening until after Summer League, and once Miami really knows what

they have in Beasley... I think Orlando has to take on an unfavorable

contract or give up a draft pick to get Miami to bite...

 

If I am Otis, I offer the rights to Fran Vasquez, JJ Reddick, a sign and

trade for either Carlos or Keyon and a future 2nd rounder for Udonis.

 

I use the Middle Level to get a veteran backup guard and a backup

center... UD can hold down the Five when you go small.

 

Steve

 

 

Interesting stuff! Yeah you're right Killing, I would wet on myself if we could get him!!! Ha-Ha

[Soul Bro 1,419]

quote:

Originally posted by ball junkie:

I talked to Steve and asked him if he really thought there was a chance we could get Udonis. I also asked him if he was hearing 'anything' else about the Magic. Here was his comments:

 

quote:

The Magic told Courtney they did not draft him for him to sit, but he'd

have to earn his place... They did not tell Courtney JJ was gone, but did

hint that they did not expect their back court to be as crowded.

 

Mo Evans wants to return... Keyon wants to be paid... there are about 7

teams that have him high on their list including Miami and Washington,

neither will go full boat (Mid Level) for Keyon, but Keyon's dance card

will be full.

 

Carlos is toast...

 

As for Udonis, I still think a sign and trade with Keyon and JJ Reddick

get you Udonis - there are not enough minutes - the thing is I do not see

it happening until after Summer League, and once Miami really knows what

they have in Beasley... I think Orlando has to take on an unfavorable

contract or give up a draft pick to get Miami to bite...

 

If I am Otis, I offer the rights to Fran Vasquez, JJ Reddick, a sign and

trade for either Carlos or Keyon and a future 2nd rounder for Udonis.

 

I use the Middle Level to get a veteran backup guard and a backup

center... UD can hold down the Five when you go small.

 

Steve

 

 

Interesting stuff! Yeah you're right Killing, I would wet on myself if we could get him!!! Ha-Ha

 

Good stuff. Thanks.

[Berto 338]

quote:

Originally posted by ball junkie:

I talked to Steve and asked him if he really thought there was a chance we could get Udonis. I also asked him if he was hearing 'anything' else about the Magic. Here was his comments:

 

quote:

The Magic told Courtney they did not draft him for him to sit, but he'd

have to earn his place... They did not tell Courtney JJ was gone, but did

hint that they did not expect their back court to be as crowded.

 

Mo Evans wants to return... Keyon wants to be paid... there are about 7

teams that have him high on their list including Miami and Washington,

neither will go full boat (Mid Level) for Keyon, but Keyon's dance card

will be full.

 

Carlos is toast...

 

As for Udonis, I still think a sign and trade with Keyon and JJ Reddick

get you Udonis - there are not enough minutes - the thing is I do not see

it happening until after Summer League, and once Miami really knows what

they have in Beasley... I think Orlando has to take on an unfavorable

contract or give up a draft pick to get Miami to bite...

 

If I am Otis, I offer the rights to Fran Vasquez, JJ Reddick, a sign and

trade for either Carlos or Keyon and a future 2nd rounder for Udonis.

 

I use the Middle Level to get a veteran backup guard and a backup

center... UD can hold down the Five when you go small.

 

Steve

 

 

Interesting stuff! Yeah you're right Killing, I would wet on myself if we could get him!!! Ha-Ha

 

Well of course they told Lee that. WHat are they supposed to say, "Courtney we like you, but we're drafting you to sit."

 

Also doesn't it make more sense to just keep Redick than dish out more money for Evans?

 

And with Haslem, i've never bought this for a second. I just don't see them dealing with us. Plus, I think they can do better than Dooling and Redick with a diferent team.

[ball junkie 277]

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

quote:

Originally posted by ball junkie:

I talked to Steve and asked him if he really thought there was a chance we could get Udonis. I also asked him if he was hearing 'anything' else about the Magic. Here was his comments:

 

quote:

The Magic told Courtney they did not draft him for him to sit, but he'd

have to earn his place... They did not tell Courtney JJ was gone, but did

hint that they did not expect their back court to be as crowded.

 

Mo Evans wants to return... Keyon wants to be paid... there are about 7

teams that have him high on their list including Miami and Washington,

neither will go full boat (Mid Level) for Keyon, but Keyon's dance card

will be full.

 

Carlos is toast...

 

As for Udonis, I still think a sign and trade with Keyon and JJ Reddick

get you Udonis - there are not enough minutes - the thing is I do not see

it happening until after Summer League, and once Miami really knows what

they have in Beasley... I think Orlando has to take on an unfavorable

contract or give up a draft pick to get Miami to bite...

 

If I am Otis, I offer the rights to Fran Vasquez, JJ Reddick, a sign and

trade for either Carlos or Keyon and a future 2nd rounder for Udonis.

 

I use the Middle Level to get a veteran backup guard and a backup

center... UD can hold down the Five when you go small.

 

Steve

 

 

Interesting stuff! Yeah you're right Killing, I would wet on myself if we could get him!!! Ha-Ha

 

Well of course they told Lee that. WHat are they supposed to say, "Courtney we like you, but we're drafting you to sit."

 

Also doesn't it make more sense to just keep Redick than dish out more money for Evans?

 

And with Haslem, i've never bought this for a second. I just don't see them dealing with us. Plus, I think they can do better than Dooling and Redick with a diferent team.

 

 

Miami's starting point guard right now is Marcus Banks. His back-up is that little small, white dude from Notre Dame who's name I can't remember right now. I was reading the Miami papers this morning and all they were talking about was trying to find a point guard through free agency and some shooting.

 

Be honest, would you be worried right now if you were Riley and that was your 2 best point guards? Who else could they trade with? Maybe Chicago for Hinrich but the Bulls wouldn't want Haslem. They still need a lowpost scorer. Besdies they already have Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas.

 

Who else in the league could satisfy the Heat's need more so than the Magic?

 

Lastly, man I couldn't believe Kyler said Keyon has "SEVEN" teams that are interested in acquiring his services!

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

quote:

Originally posted by ball junkie:

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

quote:

Originally posted by ball junkie:

I talked to Steve and asked him if he really thought there was a chance we could get Udonis. I also asked him if he was hearing 'anything' else about the Magic. Here was his comments:

 

quote:

The Magic told Courtney they did not draft him for him to sit, but he'd

have to earn his place... They did not tell Courtney JJ was gone, but did

hint that they did not expect their back court to be as crowded.

 

Mo Evans wants to return... Keyon wants to be paid... there are about 7

teams that have him high on their list including Miami and Washington,

neither will go full boat (Mid Level) for Keyon, but Keyon's dance card

will be full.

 

Carlos is toast...

 

As for Udonis, I still think a sign and trade with Keyon and JJ Reddick

get you Udonis - there are not enough minutes - the thing is I do not see

it happening until after Summer League, and once Miami really knows what

they have in Beasley... I think Orlando has to take on an unfavorable

contract or give up a draft pick to get Miami to bite...

 

If I am Otis, I offer the rights to Fran Vasquez, JJ Reddick, a sign and

trade for either Carlos or Keyon and a future 2nd rounder for Udonis.

 

I use the Middle Level to get a veteran backup guard and a backup

center... UD can hold down the Five when you go small.

 

Steve

 

 

Interesting stuff! Yeah you're right Killing, I would wet on myself if we could get him!!! Ha-Ha

 

Well of course they told Lee that. WHat are they supposed to say, "Courtney we like you, but we're drafting you to sit."

 

Also doesn't it make more sense to just keep Redick than dish out more money for Evans?

 

And with Haslem, i've never bought this for a second. I just don't see them dealing with us. Plus, I think they can do better than Dooling and Redick with a diferent team.

 

 

Miami's starting point guard right now is Marcus Banks. His back-up is that little small, white dude from Notre Dame who's name I can't remember right now. I was reading the Miami papers this morning and all they were talking about was trying to find a point guard through free agency and some shooting.

 

Be honest, would you be worried right now if you were Riley and that was your 2 best point guards? Who else could they trade with? Maybe Chicago for Hinrich but the Bulls wouldn't want Haslem. They still need a lowpost scorer. Besdies they already have Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas.

 

Who else in the league could satisfy the Heat's need more so than the Magic?

 

Lastly, man I couldn't believe Kyler said Keyon has "SEVEN" teams that are interested in acquiring his services!

 

Remember they just bought chalmers. and they could get a point from memphis