2024 NBA Draft Thread

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11 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

Tristan Da Silva is a fun guy to consider. Despite the name he's actually German, his brother Oscar played with Franz and Mo in FIBA this summer (he didn't really play but he was on the German squad). 

Tristan is a Senior at Colorado and looking like a first round pick. Just had 22 points, 10 boards, 9 assists and 2 steals in a blow out win over #15 Miami. 

He's a 6'9 forward who's shot 39% from 3 for his career and is in the 40s this year. 

I like Tristan a lot.. He’s a perfect Okeke replacement. But his defense is wack.. 

His brother is also super talented, more of a PF/C type. But Oscar wasn’t on the german squad. He was selected for the Select squad before the tournament though..

 

Its kind of funny. Oscar and Tristan are a „poor“ man’s version of the Wagner brothers. Same skill set, same difference in position and body type.. I wouldn’t be opposed to Tristan, although i prefer a PF/C typer player

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On 12/10/2023 at 2:33 PM, CTMagicUK said:

Aaron Bradshaw played his first real minutes of the season the other night and put up 17 points, 11 boards, 3 blocks and a steal. He also made a 3. Looked like a lottery pick. Which is a shame for us because he'd kind of be a perfect prospect at C if the jumper is real (not that we're exactly desperate for another big). Plays with a high motor, think the health long term might still be a question mark given he had a fractured foot.

Bradshaw is one of my favorites for this team.. I don’t exactly view him as a center though. Imo he is a PF.. He’ll have a tough time playing center. I don’t think he could actually guard starters or bench players at the center position. 

Id therefore kinda pass on him. But i guess if he’d fall to our spot, you’d have to drafted upside. 

 

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

7 minutes ago, orlandoholic said:

I like Tristan a lot.. He’s a perfect Okeke replacement. But his defense is wack.. 

His brother is also super talented, more of a PF/C type. But Oscar wasn’t on the german squad. He was selected for the Select squad before the tournament though..

 

Its kind of funny. Oscar and Tristan are a „poor“ man’s version of the Wagner brothers. Same skill set, same difference in position and body type.. I wouldn’t be opposed to Tristan, although i prefer a PF/C typer player

You're right about Oscar, I misremembered off the top of my head. 

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

1 hour ago, orlandoholic said:

Bradshaw is one of my favorites for this team

 

1 hour ago, orlandoholic said:

Id therefore kinda pass on him.

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40 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

 

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Because i believe Bradshaw, especially watching his first games it’s clear that he can’t play C.. 
 

And i don’t want to draft a SF/PF type player. 

I prefer for this team to get some good paint protection, some good front court defense. 
 

So i’m looking at Ware, Ivisiv for us. 

But if they do get Bradshaw, i also wouldn’t be upset. 
 

It’s just a funky situation we are in. M. Wagner is great off the bench and he’s been great on offense, especially since he stopped chucking up 3s. But the last games proved me right that M. Wagner can only play alongside Isaac. He needs a special defensive talent next to him. I’d say that Wagner and Bradshaw can’t play together. 

So right now i’m definitely on board of actually selling M. Wagner high. I know it won’t happen because of team chemistry reasons, but it would make sense to me. Sell him high and draft a replacement in the next draft

 

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11 hours ago, orlandoholic said:

Because i believe Bradshaw, especially watching his first games it’s clear that he can’t play C.. 
 

And i don’t want to draft a SF/PF type player. 

I prefer for this team to get some good paint protection, some good front court defense. 
 

So i’m looking at Ware, Ivisiv for us. 

But if they do get Bradshaw, i also wouldn’t be upset. 
 

It’s just a funky situation we are in. M. Wagner is great off the bench and he’s been great on offense, especially since he stopped chucking up 3s. But the last games proved me right that M. Wagner can only play alongside Isaac. He needs a special defensive talent next to him. I’d say that Wagner and Bradshaw can’t play together. 

So right now i’m definitely on board of actually selling M. Wagner high. I know it won’t happen because of team chemistry reasons, but it would make sense to me. Sell him high and draft a replacement in the next draft

 

 I'm not sure I'd be so confident declaring someone can't be anything after only 42 college minutes. 

Disagree heavily on trading Mo Wagner. You're looking at this as though the person we draft will be playing a role day 1. He won't. Our lottery pick from this past draft isn't even playing a role. The guy we pick in the late teens or twenties of this draft is going to be sat on the bench getting DNP-CDs year 1 unless we have injuries or they're far beyond expectations. 

If we use this pick it'll be really about finding someone who can contribute in years 2-4 of their contract when we'll have Franz, Jalen and then Paolo on big contracts and won't necessarily have the luxury of going out and paying a Joe Ingles $11m to come off the bench. 

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

On 12/11/2023 at 9:11 AM, CTMagicUK said:

Tristan is a Senior at Colorado and looking like a first round pick. Just had 22 points, 10 boards, 9 assists and 2 steals in a blow out win over #15 Miami. 

There were 20 NBA execs in attendance for this game according to Givony and Woo writing for ESPN. They were likely there to see Cody Williams (younger brother of Jalen, probably a top 10 pick in this draft who was ruled out just before tip off through injury) but still it's good for Tristan that he showed out in front of NBA scouts. 

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

This is now just the Tristan Da Silva thread lol. 

Here's every drafted player in Barttorvik's database who meets the below criteria which Tristan Da Silva is hitting (or surpassing) this season: 

3P%≥40, Far 2 FG%≥40, FT%≥80, 3PA/100≥7 (these are all designed as an estimate of great, pure shooters, together they filter out small sample size and allow for factoring in some shot versatility etc)

AST:TO≥1, BLK%≥1, STL%≥1 (this is a "filter out obvious red flags" cluster of queries)

Height≥6'5 (wing sized and above only)

The list: 

Mikal Bridges

Cam Johnson

Chris Duarte

Corey Kispert

Trey Murphy III

Isaiah Livers

Seth Lundy

Ryan Kelly

Shake Milton

(If you don't filter on only drafted guys you obviously get a lot of non prospects but Sam Hauser also makes an appearance)

Those bottom 4 guys were all second round picks, Seth Lundy is a rookie so jury is out. Milton still in the league in year 6, Livers looking like nothing and Kelly had 4 uneventful years in the league. 

But, that top group, the first round picks, is pretty interesting. I'm excited to see Cam Johnson there actually because that was the comp for the high end of what I thought TDS could be. 

 

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if we draft a SF/PF type player, i’d definitely put Tristan Da Silva on top!! He’s just that modern versatile wing player. Also a great shooter. I’m going to start watching him more in the coming months. 

 

Im having a hard time to believe that the NBA will sleep on him. He probably won’t be available where we pick. 

I could see Justin Edwards falling. He’s probably number 2 on my wing list. 

Number 3 is Melvin Ajinca..

(obviously not mentioning the unreachable picks like Buzelis and Risacher)

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

10 hours ago, orlandoholic said:

if we draft a SF/PF type player, i’d definitely put Tristan Da Silva on top!! He’s just that modern versatile wing player. Also a great shooter. I’m going to start watching him more in the coming months. 

 

Im having a hard time to believe that the NBA will sleep on him. He probably won’t be available where we pick. 

I could see Justin Edwards falling. He’s probably number 2 on my wing list. 

Number 3 is Melvin Ajinca..

(obviously not mentioning the unreachable picks like Buzelis and Risacher)

It's always so hard to know with so much basketball left to play. If Colorado don't make a big post season run he could stay under the radar in the late 1st, 2nd range as teams chase higher upside since he's a Senior with limited burst.

Justin Edwards is a prime example really, he has done very little to show he's an NBA player at Kentucky so far. But he's a 6'8, long, freshman who has HS hype. I don't really think he should warrant first round discussion at the moment but it wouldn't be surprising if someone still picked him late first looking for upside. Especially if some bad teams end up with multiple firsts after the trade deadline. 

Being a team who'll likely make the playoffs and pick in the 16-22 range is kind of weird for scouting. Like Cam Whitmore was consensus top 10 last season and went 20. And this draft there doesn't even seem to be a consensus top 5 at the moment nevermind top 10. 

I'm just trying to take a look at everyone whilst sort of ruling out guys I'm pretty confident won't fall out of the lottery (Sarr, Topic, Holland, Buzelis, Risacher, Collier, Walter, Cody Williams).

I haven't seen much Ajinca yet will have to check him out. In terms of french prospects I like Salaun quite a lot. I'm not really someone who thinks we should target a specific position but I just think big wings are super important. 6'5+ perimeter players are always valuable so I naturally gravitate towards them. 

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11 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

It's always so hard to know with so much basketball left to play. If Colorado don't make a big post season run he could stay under the radar in the late 1st, 2nd range as teams chase higher upside since he's a Senior with limited burst.

Justin Edwards is a prime example really, he has done very little to show he's an NBA player at Kentucky so far. But he's a 6'8, long, freshman who has HS hype. I don't really think he should warrant first round discussion at the moment but it wouldn't be surprising if someone still picked him late first looking for upside. Especially if some bad teams end up with multiple firsts after the trade deadline. 

Being a team who'll likely make the playoffs and pick in the 16-22 range is kind of weird for scouting. Like Cam Whitmore was consensus top 10 last season and went 20. And this draft there doesn't even seem to be a consensus top 5 at the moment nevermind top 10. 

I'm just trying to take a look at everyone whilst sort of ruling out guys I'm pretty confident won't fall out of the lottery (Sarr, Topic, Holland, Buzelis, Risacher, Collier, Walter, Cody Williams).

I haven't seen much Ajinca yet will have to check him out. In terms of french prospects I like Salaun quite a lot. I'm not really someone who thinks we should target a specific position but I just think big wings are super important. 6'5+ perimeter players are always valuable so I naturally gravitate towards them. 

absolutely agree.. This is a tough position to kind of scout! Good thing is that you can really focus on a variety of players. Not just a top 5!

I really forgot a really important player. Baba Miller will absolutely be on our list as an ultra big wing. 

1. Da Silva

2. B. Miller

3. J. Edwards (agree with your take on him!)

4. Ajinca

5. Buyuktuncel

Those are the wings. Next group we will probably focus on is PF/C. I’m probably taking Bradshaw of my list. He gives me Bol Bol vibes. He has a scary low motor imo. 

Klintman

Brazil

Ware

Ivisic

Almansa

i have no particular order with that group. I thought i had, but they are too many different types of players.. 

 

 

 

[CTMagicUK 1,491]

This guy is absolutely not getting drafted since he'll be 24 before the draft and I've heard precisely zero buzz about him but wouldn't surprise me if Quinten Post gets a 2 way and eventually sticks in the league as a kind of a specialist 7 footer who can shoot the 3 ball. This year he's averaging 2.2 blocks a game and shooting 47% from 3 on 3 attempts per game (along with decent assist numbers) hard to believe thats not intriguing to a few NBA teams.