2017 Official Offseason Thread

[Magicman28 295]

Even IF kyrie leaves (let's face it he will be all NBA on our team and eligible for the DPVE so we can offer the most) we'll still have a much better cap situation and Biz and Augustin will be entering the last years of their deals. At that point you can package a pick to get rid of them and have an absolutely clean slate with only Fournier under contract, and he is paid just fine. If you stand pat you will have Gordon and Payton taking up huge money, which means less flexibility.

 

A team that takes Biz AND DJ is trying dump salary. We'd be taking on a lot of salary with it much talent attached.

[Ibn Battuta 127]

At least our ****ty team is building toward something.

 

 

Look at all the past trades of superstars. The vast majority are a couple solid pieces and picks. Nobody guts their team.

We just continue to overrate our players and underrate everyone else. Kyrie could average 30 with us!

[Magicman28 295]

That's FALSE.

 

If everyone here was willing to sing Hennigans praises till just a few months ago, you should have no issue if in two years Irving walks because the FO at least tried.

 

What's false about it?

 

Cleveland wants youth and talent. They're not wanting Biz.

They're not wanting Vuch. They want young talent on cheap contracts. Have you seen how much our young "talent" makes?

[HeHateMe 697]

At least our ****ty team is building toward something.

 

 

Look at all the past trades of superstars. The vast majority are a couple solid pieces and picks. Nobody guts their team.

 

What are we building towards? What do we really have?

 

Outside of AG and Issac, what is this team?

 

There's flaws all around.

 

Pg that can't shoot, center that can't play D. SG who should be a 6th man. Bench filled with non shooters.

 

I don't see anything on this team that isn't worth breaking up for Kyrie.

[Magicman28 295]

We just continue to overrate our players and underrate everyone else. Kyrie could average 30 with us!

 

Annnd we wouldn't be any better.

 

You buying into the bells and whistles with the ppg.

[Ibn Battuta 127]

A team that takes Biz AND DJ is trying dump salary. We'd be taking on a lot of salary with it much talent attached.

 

Uhm what? The Nets just took on DeMarre Carroll for a pick. You trade him to a team that needs to reach the floor or for a player who can be immediately waived. That's how you compensate the team by giving the pick. Does that make sense?

[Ibn Battuta 127]

What's false about it?

 

Cleveland wants youth and talent. They're not wanting Biz.

They're not wanting Vuch. They want young talent on cheap contracts. Have you seen how much our young "talent" makes?

 

They want proven vets that can help Lebron reach the finals. They have no use for young, unproven talent. Give them Fournier and Gordon and whatever else they want, they get a solid starter, a sixth man and spot starter (can also play in small lineups), and take back one of their contracts.

[Mauro Pedrosa 1,032]

What are we building towards? What do we really have?

 

Outside of AG and Issac, what is this team?

 

There's flaws all around.

 

Pg that can't shoot, center that can't play D. SG who should be a 6th man. Bench filled with non shooters.

 

I don't see anything on this team that isn't worth breaking up for Kyrie.

Agreed. You could talk me into a 15 for 1 trade for Kyrie

[Magicman28 295]

Uhm what? The Nets just took on DeMarre Carroll for a pick. You trade him to a team that needs to reach the floor or for a player who can be immediately waived. That's how you compensate the team by giving the pick. Does that make sense?

 

 

No because not every team is the Nets.

 

Demarre is also 3-D who's played well within a system before who's making 30 million over the next 2 years.

 

DJ and Biz combine is making over 70 million in the same amount of time.

[Magicman28 295]

They want proven vets that can help Lebron reach the finals. They have no use for young, unproven talent. Give them Fournier and Gordon and whatever else they want, they get a solid starter, a sixth man and spot starter (can also play in small lineups), and take back one of their contracts.

 

 

No they want talent. Young talent in case LBJ leaves in 2018.

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247006/Cavaliers-Seeking-Blue-Chip-Young-Player-As-Centerpiece-In-Kyrie-Irving-Trade

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

We just continue to overrate our players and underrate everyone else. Kyrie could average 30 with us!

 

I don't really care about our players. It's not that controversial to suggest we should only trade for kyrie if we are able to field a competent roster around him.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

No because not every team is the Nets.

 

Demarre is also 3-D who's played well within a system before who's making 30 million over the next 2 years.

 

DJ and Biz combine is making over 70 million in the same amount of time.

 

I don't know what you're talking about.