Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I mean Plumlee is 27 and averaged 5 and 4 last season and has exactly 1 playoff game in his whole career. Biyombo is coming off a huge playoff run, is younger and better. There's a chance Biyombo becomes Ben Wallace (admittedly it's very small). Plumlee basically is what he is. I don't know if he'll ever become ben Wallace because that holds a connotation with the championships and the total impact that I don't want to put on Biyombo. But there's a reasonable chance biyombo becomes the top Rebounder/shot blocker in the NBA. only Whiteside had both a higher rebound% and block% than biyombo last season (there's also about 6 other high profile/low profile guys in the same realm) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 D-League All-Star maybe Ah dammit you stole my joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 137 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I don't know if he'll ever become ben Wallace because that holds a connotation with the championships and the total impact that I don't want to put on Biyombo. But there's a reasonable chance biyombo becomes the top Rebounder/shot blocker in the NBA. only Whiteside had both a higher rebound% and block% than biyombo last season (there's also about 6 other high profile/low profile guys in the same realm) I try to keep realistic expectations in mind when projecting players. (Though you then must determine what is and is not realistic-) Far too often though, I hear/read people proclaiming that this player or that player is the next "name of all time great". While it is often possible that they become that type of player (or even better/different) at their top, they will most likely not reach those heights. When they fail to become that player that everyone was claiming they would be, the fans seem to turn on the player as he did not become what they imagined he would become. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 Would the Heat go full youth movement and take a deal around Payton for Dragic? Edit: Dragic makes a lot of money and we don't have a lot of players we can dump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 Would the Heat go full youth movement and take a deal around Payton for Dragic? Edit: Dragic makes a lot of money and we don't have a lot of players we can dump No reason for either team to do that deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 No reason for either team to do that deal. Wade just bailed and Bosh might have to retire. The Heat have to rebuild We need a PG that can shoot a lot better. Dragic is no Ray Allen, but he would be a huge improvement. He makes 15 million per year, 4 year contract. Not terrible in the current era of contracts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 Wade just bailed and Bosh might have to retire. The Heat have to rebuild We need a PG that can shoot a lot better. Dragic is no Ray Allen, but he would be a huge improvement. He makes 15 million per year, 4 year contract. Not terrible in the current era of contracts I don't really like Dragic as your main point guard. I think I'd rather have Rubio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I don't really like Dragic as your main point guard. I think I'd rather have Rubio. I wouldn't, but they're in the same universe when it comes to overall skill. Sergio Llull, who hasn't decided to come over to the NBA yet (Rockets) is probably better than both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I wouldn't, but they're in the same universe when it comes to overall skill. Sergio Llull, who hasn't decided to come over to the NBA yet (Rockets) is probably better than both I mean, Rubio is pretty much what we want Payton to be. Great defender, Great passer. Dragic is 30, Rubio is almost 26. I'm afraid Dragic already peaked and is slowly going to turn back into a 12 ppg player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 Wade just bailed and Bosh might have to retire. The Heat have to rebuild We need a PG that can shoot a lot better. Dragic is no Ray Allen, but he would be a huge improvement. He makes 15 million per year, 4 year contract. Not terrible in the current era of contracts It's a move that I don't think makes us significantly better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I mean, Rubio is pretty much what we want Payton to be. Great defender, Great passer. Dragic is 30, Rubio is almost 26. I'm afraid Dragic already peaked and is slowly going to turn back into a 12 ppg player. Don't tell me your actually contemplating Rubio? Don't let the hamster turn that wheel for too long man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,033 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 I mean, Rubio is pretty much what we want Payton to be. Great defender, Great passer. Dragic is 30, Rubio is almost 26. I'm afraid Dragic already peaked and is slowly going to turn back into a 12 ppg player. What I'm worried about with Payton is how he fits with this team, even if he reaches his ultimate potential. Fournier is our only good to great outside shooter in the starting lineup and that just worries me, even if we get the rebirth of Magic Johnson as our PG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
