My 6th Rebuild 6 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 This whole "Bobcats were aggressive driving to the hole" is a bad argument on why they got the benefit of the call. Most of Derrick Rose's shots were in the paint and had only 2 free throws to show for it. Rose scored 28 despite the refs. Setting the precedent on the way the Magic will be officiated in these playoffs. Bass is better suited in this series and not Anderson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic:This whole "Bobcats were aggressive driving to the hole" is a bad argument on why they got the benefit of the call. Most of Derrick Rose's shots were in the paint and had only 2 free throws to show for it. Rose scored 28 despite the refs. Setting the precedent on the way the Magic will be officiated in these playoffs. Bass is better suited in this series and not Anderson. How is it a bad argument? You can't get calls when you don't look for contact... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjapj 35 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Skywise316: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316:Last year the Magic would need 6 games to beat this team. This year's team is better and more focused. Magic in 5. But it won't be easy, and Charlotte will make that clear in Game 1. Charlotte 85 Orlando 92 POTG: Jameer. Just a gut feelin'. I like when I'm right, at least about Game One anyway... Alright, for the playoffs I'm bringing back an extremely simple version of..! (I'm not promising every game, only when I get time. Also I'm not scouring through all the stats like before, this is all based on eyeball tests) Stock Up: Jameer Nelson. (See that first half?? Yeah, KITNO's completely right about needing to find the mismatch more often, but other than that he was pretty awesome, even better than I was expecting. I was just thinking 20 points, 5 assists.. he sure did that and more!) Dwight Howard. (At least two of his five fouls were complete and utter bullcrap, namely the first one and his fourth, so I'm not gonna blame him for being in foul trouble. He compltely pwned the paint, and watching Dwight and Gortat play defense in this game was like watching Peyton Manning for a half and then Ryan Leaf. There was no comparison. I'm not sure if that just highlights how dominant Dwight was, or how lackluster Gortat was. Maybe both. So while Dwight was on the floor, he was Bill Russell special out there. Also can't forget his big putback dunk late in the game, I think it made the game 87-80 Magic. Huge basket. Best five point playoff performance ever? Yeah, I think so. Only exception to his SU being his free throws... come ON, dude.) Rashard Lewis. (Yep, I'm thinking he cares more about the playoffs than the end of the season. There were times he still completely fell asleep in the rebounding department, making Gortat/Rashard a little hard to watch on the defensive end, however he shot well from the floor and made a HUGE three down the stretch. That and well, his defense wasn't atrocious. Hey, it's progress!) Turnovers. (I think they only had 9 for the game, and a big key for this game was they held Charlotte to very low fast break points. Limiting Charlotte's opportunities to run is a underrated, but big key to winning this series for Orlando.) Mickael "MVPietrus" Pietrus. (11 in the 2nd quarter + that very Pietrus-esque dagger of a three late in the game equals a Stock Up. You would like his perimeter defense (plus EVERYONE'S perimeter D) to be better, but it's certainly hard to complain tonight about what MP brought to the table.) Stock Down: Vince Carter. (This has already been pretty well covered in this thread so- ATTACK THE BASKET, VINCE!!! To be fair to him though, he had some seriously ticky tack-as-hell fouls called on him tonight. But that doesn't excuse the offense. Generally speaking, Jameer was good-aggressive. VC was bad-aggressive. Yes indeed, there are good shots and bad shots in basketball, in case anyone doubted that before this game.) Marcin Gortat. (His defense, rebounding, and overall effort were terrible. I blame mostly him, especially on D, for why the Magic went from up 22 to only 10 in the third quarter. We would of been better off with Bass at center.. who cares if he doesn't usually block shots? It wasn't like Gortat was threatening anyone's shots in this game.. I could rant all day, but I'll just leave it here.) Jason Williams. (I didn't think he provided much of anything in this game. You know it's pretty bad when Jameer Nelson pushes the pace faster than you.) That's pretty much it, basically. The team went into 'Hero Syndrome" in the third quarter, gotta keep passing and trusting each other instead of "I got this!" basketball. Barnes, Anderson, & Redick all played just about their normal games IMO, so they're pretty much "Stock In The Middle." THERE, I did some Stock Up, Stock Down.. sort of.. so leave me alone. sorry, not gonna leave you alone..good post, hope you do one after each game..that's all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My 6th Rebuild 6 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic:This whole "Bobcats were aggressive driving to the hole" is a bad argument on why they got the benefit of the call. Most of Derrick Rose's shots were in the paint and had only 2 free throws to show for it. Rose scored 28 despite the refs. Setting the precedent on the way the Magic will be officiated in these playoffs. Bass is better suited in this series and not Anderson. How is it a bad argument? You can't get calls when you don't look for contact... The argument is that the Bobcats got calls because they were aggressive driving to the hole. Now go look at Derrick Rose's shot chart for Game 1 and explain to me how he only got to the line once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ApexTurbo 6 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic:This whole "Bobcats were aggressive driving to the hole" is a bad argument on why they got the benefit of the call. Most of Derrick Rose's shots were in the paint and had only 2 free throws to show for it. Rose scored 28 despite the refs. Setting the precedent on the way the Magic will be officiated in these playoffs. Bass is better suited in this series and not Anderson. How is it a bad argument? You can't get calls when you don't look for contact... The argument is that the Bobcats got calls because they were aggressive driving to the hole. Now go look at Derrick Rose's shot chart for Game 1 and explain to me how he only got to the line once. You raise an interesting question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UBBALLER8 248 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ninjapj: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316:Last year the Magic would need 6 games to beat this team. This year's team is better and more focused. Magic in 5. But it won't be easy, and Charlotte will make that clear in Game 1. Charlotte 85 Orlando 92 POTG: Jameer. Just a gut feelin'. I like when I'm right, at least about Game One anyway... Alright, for the playoffs I'm bringing back an extremely simple version of..! (I'm not promising every game, only when I get time. Also I'm not scouring through all the stats like before, this is all based on eyeball tests) Stock Up: Jameer Nelson. (See that first half?? Yeah, KITNO's completely right about needing to find the mismatch more often, but other than that he was pretty awesome, even better than I was expecting. I was just thinking 20 points, 5 assists.. he sure did that and more!) Dwight Howard. (At least two of his five fouls were complete and utter bullcrap, namely the first one and his fourth, so I'm not gonna blame him for being in foul trouble. He compltely pwned the paint, and watching Dwight and Gortat play defense in this game was like watching Peyton Manning for a half and then Ryan Leaf. There was no comparison. I'm not sure if that just highlights how dominant Dwight was, or how lackluster Gortat was. Maybe both. So while Dwight was on the floor, he was Bill Russell special out there. Also can't forget his big putback dunk late in the game, I think it made the game 87-80 Magic. Huge basket. Best five point playoff performance ever? Yeah, I think so. Only exception to his SU being his free throws... come ON, dude.) Rashard Lewis. (Yep, I'm thinking he cares more about the playoffs than the end of the season. There were times he still completely fell asleep in the rebounding department, making Gortat/Rashard a little hard to watch on the defensive end, however he shot well from the floor and made a HUGE three down the stretch. That and well, his defense wasn't atrocious. Hey, it's progress!) Turnovers. (I think they only had 9 for the game, and a big key for this game was they held Charlotte to very low fast break points. Limiting Charlotte's opportunities to run is a underrated, but big key to winning this series for Orlando.) Mickael "MVPietrus" Pietrus. (11 in the 2nd quarter + that very Pietrus-esque dagger of a three late in the game equals a Stock Up. You would like his perimeter defense (plus EVERYONE'S perimeter D) to be better, but it's certainly hard to complain tonight about what MP brought to the table.) Stock Down: Vince Carter. (This has already been pretty well covered in this thread so- ATTACK THE BASKET, VINCE!!! To be fair to him though, he had some seriously ticky tack-as-hell fouls called on him tonight. But that doesn't excuse the offense. Generally speaking, Jameer was good-aggressive. VC was bad-aggressive. Yes indeed, there are good shots and bad shots in basketball, in case anyone doubted that before this game.) Marcin Gortat. (His defense, rebounding, and overall effort were terrible. I blame mostly him, especially on D, for why the Magic went from up 22 to only 10 in the third quarter. We would of been better off with Bass at center.. who cares if he doesn't usually block shots? It wasn't like Gortat was threatening anyone's shots in this game.. I could rant all day, but I'll just leave it here.) Jason Williams. (I didn't think he provided much of anything in this game. You know it's pretty bad when Jameer Nelson pushes the pace faster than you.) That's pretty much it, basically. The team went into 'Hero Syndrome" in the third quarter, gotta keep passing and trusting each other instead of "I got this!" basketball. Barnes, Anderson, & Redick all played just about their normal games IMO, so they're pretty much "Stock In The Middle." THERE, I did some Stock Up, Stock Down.. sort of.. so leave me alone. sorry, not gonna leave you alone..good post, hope you do one after each game..that's all.. I agree with the entire assessment. Barnes could have been on the down list also IMO. Didn't really show up to lock up or even bother Gerald Wallace, but didn't do anything necessarily bad either. I'll be expecting a lot more from Barnes as the playoffs progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by MagicAtic:This whole "Bobcats were aggressive driving to the hole" is a bad argument on why they got the benefit of the call. Most of Derrick Rose's shots were in the paint and had only 2 free throws to show for it. Rose scored 28 despite the refs. Setting the precedent on the way the Magic will be officiated in these playoffs. Bass is better suited in this series and not Anderson. How is it a bad argument? You can't get calls when you don't look for contact... The argument is that the Bobcats got calls because they were aggressive driving to the hole. Now go look at Derrick Rose's shot chart for Game 1 and explain to me how he only got to the line once. What the hell does this have to do with anything? Different refs, different game, different plays... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ApexTurbo 6 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 quote: Originally posted by UBBALLER8: quote: Originally posted by ninjapj: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316:Last year the Magic would need 6 games to beat this team. This year's team is better and more focused. Magic in 5. But it won't be easy, and Charlotte will make that clear in Game 1. Charlotte 85 Orlando 92 POTG: Jameer. Just a gut feelin'. I like when I'm right, at least about Game One anyway... Alright, for the playoffs I'm bringing back an extremely simple version of..! (I'm not promising every game, only when I get time. Also I'm not scouring through all the stats like before, this is all based on eyeball tests) Stock Up: Jameer Nelson. (See that first half?? Yeah, KITNO's completely right about needing to find the mismatch more often, but other than that he was pretty awesome, even better than I was expecting. I was just thinking 20 points, 5 assists.. he sure did that and more!) Dwight Howard. (At least two of his five fouls were complete and utter bullcrap, namely the first one and his fourth, so I'm not gonna blame him for being in foul trouble. He compltely pwned the paint, and watching Dwight and Gortat play defense in this game was like watching Peyton Manning for a half and then Ryan Leaf. There was no comparison. I'm not sure if that just highlights how dominant Dwight was, or how lackluster Gortat was. Maybe both. So while Dwight was on the floor, he was Bill Russell special out there. Also can't forget his big putback dunk late in the game, I think it made the game 87-80 Magic. Huge basket. Best five point playoff performance ever? Yeah, I think so. Only exception to his SU being his free throws... come ON, dude.) Rashard Lewis. (Yep, I'm thinking he cares more about the playoffs than the end of the season. There were times he still completely fell asleep in the rebounding department, making Gortat/Rashard a little hard to watch on the defensive end, however he shot well from the floor and made a HUGE three down the stretch. That and well, his defense wasn't atrocious. Hey, it's progress!) Turnovers. (I think they only had 9 for the game, and a big key for this game was they held Charlotte to very low fast break points. Limiting Charlotte's opportunities to run is a underrated, but big key to winning this series for Orlando.) Mickael "MVPietrus" Pietrus. (11 in the 2nd quarter + that very Pietrus-esque dagger of a three late in the game equals a Stock Up. You would like his perimeter defense (plus EVERYONE'S perimeter D) to be better, but it's certainly hard to complain tonight about what MP brought to the table.) Stock Down: Vince Carter. (This has already been pretty well covered in this thread so- ATTACK THE BASKET, VINCE!!! To be fair to him though, he had some seriously ticky tack-as-hell fouls called on him tonight. But that doesn't excuse the offense. Generally speaking, Jameer was good-aggressive. VC was bad-aggressive. Yes indeed, there are good shots and bad shots in basketball, in case anyone doubted that before this game.) Marcin Gortat. (His defense, rebounding, and overall effort were terrible. I blame mostly him, especially on D, for why the Magic went from up 22 to only 10 in the third quarter. We would of been better off with Bass at center.. who cares if he doesn't usually block shots? It wasn't like Gortat was threatening anyone's shots in this game.. I could rant all day, but I'll just leave it here.) Jason Williams. (I didn't think he provided much of anything in this game. You know it's pretty bad when Jameer Nelson pushes the pace faster than you.) That's pretty much it, basically. The team went into 'Hero Syndrome" in the third quarter, gotta keep passing and trusting each other instead of "I got this!" basketball. Barnes, Anderson, & Redick all played just about their normal games IMO, so they're pretty much "Stock In The Middle." THERE, I did some Stock Up, Stock Down.. sort of.. so leave me alone. sorry, not gonna leave you alone..good post, hope you do one after each game..that's all.. I agree with the entire assessment. Barnes could have been on the down list also IMO. Didn't really show up to lock up or even bother Gerald Wallace, but didn't do anything necessarily bad either. I'll be expecting a lot more from Barnes as the playoffs progress. Didn't seem like Barnes played a whole lot mainly due to the fact MVPietrus was playing very well...It will be interesting to see who gets more PT between those two. When Pietrus is attacking and hitting the three he is a force out there. They are about equal on D in my mind... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillFan 1 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Nice breakdown Sky. We need X amount of guys to play hot. We barely had enough in this game. More players are going to need to get involved. Vince and Gortat are the first two that come into my mind. Also I think Bass neeeds some minutes.. as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjapj 35 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 post game interviews are up.. http://www.nba.com/magic/video/originals/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywise316 211 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Oh I forgot one thing: Stock Up: KillingInTheNameOf. (Phil Hellmuth references FTW.) Okay, I'm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjapj 35 Report post Posted April 18, 2010 lol@ dwight calling meer a crib midget.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
