30 Games in Whats your Opinon's....

[GhostAnime 50]

So do tell what Bass would do against the Celtic 7 foot long bigs that contain Howard so well. What would Bass do for us against them that is oh so important. I'm willing to hear.

[Magicman28 295]

Glen Davis, even though he didn't hurt us like normal, is not 7 foot. What Bass would've done was bring some grunt and hustle to the team. You might not find that to be much but it can really pick up a teams morale. I'm not saying he would've dropped 20 and 10 but sometimes, he you gotta do something else besides shoot your way to a win.

[My 6th Rebuild 6]

22 - 8 w/o the line-up at full strength is a great record. With all the problems with Shard's suspension, Jameer's injury, Vince's injuries, and Howard's foul trouble we should be .500 at this point. Look at what our guys did? I applaud their overall performance thus far and look forward to watching this team gel in January then strike fear into the hearts of every team in February onward.

 

I agree with Obawan, the Celtics are peaking right now where the Cavs are starting to get their line up going nicely. Delonte running the point more and Lebron playing off the ball more has helped the Cavs tremendously. Look what they did to the media darling Lakers? Their pieces have come together nicely.

 

Barring injury to either team, it will more than likely be another Magic/Cav ECF. Make no mistake about it, the Cavs will not be as easy an out as they were last playoffs.

[F1ash 0]

We're playing well, but we need a new PG if we're going to actually contend for the Championship this year.

 

If you look at the championship teams (minus Tony Parker) over the past 15-20 years, all of the teams have won with a solid PG (NOT an All-Star wannabe that only shoots). Every team from Chicago, to Houston, to LA, and Boston got by with a PG whose only job was to bring the ball up and pass the ball, take around 5-7 UNCONTESTED shots, and play some DEFENSE.

[fishybashi 0]

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Originally posted by GhostAnime:

So do tell what Bass would do against the Celtic 7 foot long bigs that contain Howard so well. What would Bass do for us against them that is oh so important. I'm willing to hear.

 

We CLEARLY need another low post offensive and rebounding threat on the glass to help a manhandled Dwight. Howard was practically raped by the Celtics. He needs Bass to be his BIATCH and save his ***.

 

Bass needs to play more if this team is going to beat the Celtics period.

 

We clearly need a PG in the long run if we are to become a dynasty like the Spurs or Lakers. After watching the Celts game on Christmas, the slow down offense of Jameer ain't gonna cut it!!!

[GhostAnime 50]

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Glen Davis, even though he didn't hurt us like normal, is not 7 foot. What Bass would've done was bring some grunt and hustle to the team. You might not find that to be much but it can really pick up a teams morale. I'm not saying he would've dropped 20 and 10 but sometimes, he you gotta do something else besides shoot your way to a win.

Who cares about Glen? He only played for 3-5 minutes. Otherwise you were guarded by a seven footer in the paint. Bass would have been a non-factor. He's not going to shoot over 7 footers and he's not going to dunk over them or overpower them if Howard can't. Once again, people overestimate Bass and udnerestimate the Celtic bigs. These are the same guys that shut down Gasol and Odom who are definitely just as talented or MORE talented than Bass.

 

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Bass needs to play more if this team is going to beat the Celtics period.

and I ask you once again, how would the offensive plan work.

 

And what's with all this Jameer hate? Would you rather have Derek Fisher who has 4 rings? lol oh wait.

[Lawyers,Guns.and Money 0]

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Originally posted by love#12:

Kind of hard to have one when our team has only played two games together now. I will give my opion in a month after the team has time to gel and hopefully Boone ealse gets hurt. Go magic!!!!!

If Boone Ealse gets hurt, we are in deep trouble. He's the best player on our team in my opinion.Sorry, I couldn't help it. lol.

[Magicfan1961 0]

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Originally posted by GhostAnime:

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Glen Davis, even though he didn't hurt us like normal, is not 7 foot. What Bass would've done was bring some grunt and hustle to the team. You might not find that to be much but it can really pick up a teams morale. I'm not saying he would've dropped 20 and 10 but sometimes, he you gotta do something else besides shoot your way to a win.

Who cares about Glen? He only played for 3-5 minutes. Otherwise you were guarded by a seven footer in the paint. Bass would have been a non-factor. He's not going to shoot over 7 footers and he's not going to dunk over them or overpower them if Howard can't. Once again, people overestimate Bass and udnerestimate the Celtic bigs. These are the same guys that shut down Gasol and Odom who are definitely just as talented or MORE talented than Bass.

 

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Bass needs to play more if this team is going to beat the Celtics period.

and I ask you once again, how would the offensive plan work.

 

And what's with all this Jameer hate? Would you rather have Derek Fisher who has 4 rings? lol oh wait.

 

 

Having Gortat and Dwight on the floor could have helped because Gortat is another big.

[Guardian 6]

So far so good. It is after all a long season. I still think we depend way too much on 3's. When teams take that away and can play Dwight straight up we are bad very bad. Our coaching staff makes very little if any in game adjustments. My biggest concern is that this team has no attitude whatsoever. Too nonchalant for me. Go Magic!!!

[Magicman28 295]

No one is overestimating Bass. I have eyes and I know this game and I see that Bass doesn't need to shoot or dunk over every big to be effective. Hes quick to loose balls which if you were paying attention the Celtics were a step quicker to every loose ball. Hes got long arms which means he plays bigger then his height. Hes strong. He hustles. He rebounds. He blocks shots. I don't expect him to shut the Celtics bigs down but I expect a better effort then what I saw in that game. Bass gives effort.

 

Why do you think Fisher has 4 rings? Hes a role player who knows his role. BTW, he also has that one guy...wait whats his name? Oh yeah, Kobe. Yeah, hes good. Theres no Kobe on this team and Jameer as talented as he is, is not Fisher because Fisher is more experienced, more defensive, and a better shooter and has more of a IQ. Talent doesn't always equal out to IQ. A crossover gets the oohhs and ahhs but IQ gets the W majority of the time.

[GhostAnime 50]

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Originally posted by Magicman28:

No one is overestimating Bass. I have eyes and I know this game and I see that Bass doesn't need to shoot or dunk over every big to be effective. Hes quick to loose balls which if you were paying attention the Celtics were a step quicker to every loose ball. Hes got long arms which means he plays bigger then his height. Hes strong. He hustles. He rebounds. He blocks shots. I don't expect him to shut the Celtics bigs down but I expect a better effort then what I saw in that game. Bass gives effort.

I'm still asking for an offensive plan. If all you are telling me is 'effort and loose balls' then you clearly don't know why the Celtics won that game. They didn't get THAT many more boards than us. I'm asking for a plan or a scheme that can work theoretically; just throwing exciting words isn't going to cut it.

 

Tell me, what did Bass do in that cleveland game next to Howard when they were against Shaq and Varejao/Hickson? Anything notable? Anything that was worthwhile remembering? Does anybody recall anything we missed that was so important? In fact, that is probably the best example of Gundy throwing all of his bigs out in that game, and we were BLOWN OUT by the slowest frontline; the same frontline we dominated + Shaq.

 

And is it just me or when Barnes was at the 4, the lead went to single digits at the end of the Fourth quarter?

 

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Why do you think Fisher has 4 rings? Hes a role player who knows his role. BTW, he also has that one guy...wait whats his name? Oh yeah, Kobe. Yeah, hes good. Theres no Kobe on this team and Jameer as talented as he is, is not Fisher because Fisher is more experienced, more defensive, and a better shooter and has more of a IQ. Talent doesn't always equal out to IQ. A crossover gets the oohhs and ahhs but IQ gets the W majority of the time.

The point is, we could have a much worse point guard at the moment, and even though Fisher has help from Kobe, Jameer has help from being surrounded by all-stars nonetheless. Oh, and Jameer has IQ too. He took quite a few charges in that game.

[Magicman28 295]

You don't feel that "effort and loose balls" result into an offensive success? How about 2nd chance points. How about steals? How about blocks which all resort to fast break points. You wanna know how to beat a team like Boston? Easy fast break points. Granted, Dwight having a bad game offensively was the key but still. The little things do win you ball games.

 

Who cares about the Cleveland game? I can say the same thing for every player in the league who has a bad game. I will say our defense hasn't been good up to this point in that Cleveland game, we were worse. I'm talking about TEAM defense.

 

Barnes probably was at the 4. Hes played the 4 a lot in his career. Especially in Golden State. You wanna know why? His defense and his ability to get easy baskets by cutting to the basket.

 

I'll agree with you that we could have a much worse point guard. I never said Jameer sucks. I'm just saying that if we are going to win the title this year, Jameer has to become more defensive oriented and more of a distributer and be smarter with the ball. He has to change his game and I don't think he can/will. I don't see him changing something that he natural has done his entire basketball career and all of sudden become a different player and I feel like we need a different type of PG to really win a title.

 

Its no secret to why we were on a winning streak with Jason Williams was starting. Sure hes no defensive specialist either but the sure fact he pushes the ball and knows what to do with it and distributes was very key to our wins.