Murphy13 185 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by jecMagicMan:Why would Bass start over Scola? do you see scola doing a good job against KG, Powe, Perkins, or other athletic strong bigs? didnt think so, scola is not a banger, he does a decent job holding his own...but sometimes you just need some beef down low. But remember, I didnt say scola alone, also consider Landry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noonskadoodle17 9 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 Scola is out of the question period. Landry is even pushing it. I would rather package Kyle Lowry with somebody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy13 185 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by You're Fat, Pat!:You know how some teams have guys that are know as "un-touchables" because they are either a star player, or an up-and-coming player? Yeah, Landry and Scola are one of those to Houston. thanxkbuy. according to Houston fans they are willing to part with one of them to get competitive...which probably includes acquiring a center. I guess you know better than them though... k? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no_ma'am 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by murphy13:@no ma'am, I am assuming you are not a fan of Battier? Or was this another shot at all things Duke? You from Kentucky by any chance? i have all my teeth, so i'm definetly not from kentucky (i keed, i keed). Battier is my favorite dukie ever (not saying much) and i would like him on this team. However, i certainly disagree with your asessment of barnes. btw, he's 3 inches taller than redick and has arms like an orangutan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-White 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Also, our system requires LENGTH at the 3, and barnes is literally only an inch and a half taller than JJ Redick. barnes is 6'7". jj is 6'4" quote: Matt Barnes is essentially a poor man's Mikael Pietrus... and we dont need a backup SF, thats what Pietrus is...and a darn good one at that. Pietrus is definitely better, but as we saw last season, he's injury-prone. barnes would be a good short-term replacement for MP when he goes down with his stupid injuries. we can never be certain who gets injured this season so i think barnes would be a decent addition for us. we might need him to play significant minutes when the time comes. at 1.7M? that's a bargain imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy13 185 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by Noonskadoodle17:Scola is out of the question period. Landry is even pushing it. I would rather package Kyle Lowry with somebody. lowry would be an avenue to take via trade, but given the much publicized BYC issues that come along with taking multiple players back in a trade it seemed unlikely to me...they are over the cap so no TPE is available as far as I know, correct me if i'm wrong on that one. It would likely require a first round pick on Houston's end to make it work. Considering that they lack assets, I didnt know how anxious they are to give up picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jec 427 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by murphy13: quote: Originally posted by jecMagicMan:Why would Bass start over Scola? do you see scola doing a good job against KG, Powe, Perkins, or other athletic strong bigs? didnt think so, scola is not a banger, he does a decent job holding his own...but sometimes you just need some beef down low. But remember, I didnt say scola alone, also consider Landry. Not that it is feasible to get Scola, but all of the players you just mentioned are on the Celtics. Should we start AJ over Nelson because Meer can't bang with big point guards like Billups and Baron Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Murphy13 185 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by D-White: quote: Also, our system requires LENGTH at the 3, and barnes is literally only an inch and a half taller than JJ Redick. barnes is 6'7". jj is 6'4" quote: Matt Barnes is essentially a poor man's Mikael Pietrus... and we dont need a backup SF, thats what Pietrus is...and a darn good one at that. Pietrus is definitely better, but as we saw last season, he's injury-prone. barnes would be a good short-term replacement for MP when he goes down with his stupid injuries. we can never be certain who gets injured this season so i think barnes would be a decent addition for us. we might need him to play significant minutes when the time comes. at 1.7M? that's a bargain imo. welcome d-white, I am trying to find the link to the pre-draft camp list(its hard to find from so many years ago), but i believe Barnes was actually measured at slightly over 6'6" Redick was listed at 6'4 and 3/4" thats not a big difference at all...especially considering many believe redick to be undersized for a sg. your second comment is my point exactly, Barnes would be a perfect replacement for Pietrus. But, that isnt what Barnes is looking for, he is looking to be a starter because thats what he would be in PHX. Also, 1.7MIL is a bargain, youre right once again. Thats why its not enough for him...as a starter that will require minutes that cant be guaranteed here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jec 427 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: Back to form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PNuT1423 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 with yao on the rocks they're not letting scola go for anything, they definately need bodies. the reason barnes is in the equation is because he's cheap, like von wafer cheap, and both of those would likely come off the bench to back up VC around the 2guard spot if not peitrus. if battier signed with us that sf/sg role would have some very serious talent in it's core not to mention the amount of minutes would need to be rotated to keep everyone happy. battier is amazing and i wish we would get him because we can't use jj as a main part of the SG core if we want to get back to the playoffs/finals again, unless we have to play boston in ever game next year along with every series. truthfully we need a quick defensive minded person to fill in the gap and barnes seems like he has the right price tag, and battier is too good to really seem feasable, the next person down the list would be rodney carney. he's listed as a SF but has the speed and capability to play the SG if necessary, he can hit the 3 at somewhere between 35 and 40 percent, he has long arms, a long frame, and the kid can fly not just speed down the court, but also in jumping ability. in a haste you can take a look at him and his numbers and think he's not a good fit, but with these sort of players you have to forget his past situation and consider his future one. he's a young athlete that can hit a shot and with stan yelling at him for the entire game it's not like he's going to make bad decisions (does that sound familiar? a certain number 22 in last year's draft), actually i hear his turn over ration compared to minutes played isn't too bad... but that's from like wikipedia when i was researching free agents, you never know what sources they have listed. but that's my take, we need barnes to fill out the sg/sf rotation because with courtney gone we need to negate the other team's quick athlete, vince is getting up there in age, peitrus is great but has to split time right now, jj is slow, clee really realieved some defensive liability last year and we need someone that can do that for us this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy13 185 Report post Posted July 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: I would like to see you do better instead of putting assinine pictures up all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
