magicdoc1

They didnt traded ibaka for Ross just to keep him in the bench. And in no way Ross will put either Gordon at SF or Fournier at SG in the bench. It is going to be Fournier/Ross/Gordon/Vuc

Zimmerman?;(

Depends how you see it. He can very well leave during free agency and leave Toronto with nothing. We have to see what we do with the first pick in a very good year draft. Also you are undervaluing Ross too much. He can be very good to us and plays very good defense. He is also 26. Younger than Ibaka. We had no choice. It appeared as Ibaka told Henny that he will not be resigning here.

Soo basically it was: Ross(good contract) vs Oladipo. We need a SF. Oladipo was ok but having Fournier make him redundant. This also move A Gordon to PF position. 2016 11 pick vs late first round pick. This year draft is much better so I dont see much difference here. So looking it like this. It doesnt look that bad.

Thats it? Portland got more back from Denver on the plumlee move. Wow.

He is still very young. I think next year will be the year to really grade him once he has a full summer to work on his game with the team. He surely has the size and athleticism to play the SF position. His defense needs to improve tho. He is not horrible but slightly below average. He Has the potential be a gallinari type of player if he puts the work or could end up been just a role player at best alias Cassipi/mcdermott. Im just hoping he puts the work this summer.

First, i will like to apologize if my response sounded hostile. It was not my intention. It was not the right word to describe my disagreement. I am not sure if that combination of talent will make us suck more than we do at the moment. But will surely be an indication that we want to tank for sure. I think Jayleen and Powell are better than mid or late first round picks. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

You are crazy. This are guys can make us competitive in 2-3 years if not sooner.

In a heartbeat. Even without any pick. If Henny somehow pulls that off, he deserve to stay.

Why? I dont see us trading a 21 year old potential player just because we want to change our roster. I think he still have potential. He has not had any decent summertime to work on his game as last year he was with his national team playing. This next year could be different. I think we are keeping him for sure. A combination of him and Gordon could work. The rest are expandable.

So, you be cool with Dipo and #11 pick for winslow? I will be ok if they include their first pick as well.

I think they gave a 2nd and receive a first. I hope the trade those 2 first and nurkic to us for either ibaka or Vucevic and whatever othe piece they might need.

Jajajaja! Nah.. i just want to be active. I hope that Henny is fielding calls. I will take a 2nd rounder for cj.

We just need a trade. Trade deadline and draft day are the only two times magic fans could be excited about our team.

Freaking Anderson just got traded for a second round pick. Cleveland have now space to sign someone else.

The one we can pay the most. At the end of the day is all about the money for most of them. We have to spend it smart. We can get two high profile borderline star this offseason if we trade Vuch and/or Ibaka.

I agree. I dont see how EVERYTHING Is his fault. I also held Martin and coaches accountable. Also, poor luck has been on our side. Lets wait til the end of the sunmer before making the final judgment. So far, it is not looking good for him.

Crazy. RIP!

Double post

I get it with the pick. Sabonis is no different that zimmerman and Z is seeing no playing time at the moment. Having this 2 was not really necessary. Plus now we have no first round salary attached which will be useful in the free agency market. But going back to Dipo. It Is easier to go back now and see thing differently. The same thing can we said in regards to Harris. Heart, attitude, "defense" etc.. Heck, the same can be said with the JJ's trade. With Dipo, again, we had Fournier and a guy named Mario coming from his Rookie year which a lot of people here wanted for him to have more playing time. Nobody saw this coming. Frustating for sure but I dont feel bad about any of those trades until after I see what is going to happen in this year free agency period.

I wasnt against the trade when it happen nor I was jumping in joy. It was a good move. We needed to make a change and a splash. It didnt work out. My only problem with the move at the tme was the inclusion of our first round pick. I agree with you on the Biyombo signing. Didnt like it then and dont like it now. If and only if Henny is able to acquire a guy like Butler then everyone here will likely be happier with a combination of Butler/Ibaka rather than Butler/Dipo. Lets wait til the year end and see what happens during the rest of the season or offseason before we make a final judgment on this trade. Also, I think Ibaka has a higher trade value than Dipo.

Really? I though klay was Playing his contract year next year and Green in 2. If you are correct, then I agree. One year too soon. Edit: did look at the salary situation for GS and it appears as Klay will be A FA after 2018/2019 season and Green in 2019/2020 season. i stand corrected.

i hear you but you make a wise decision when you look at the whole picture. Henny decided to go with Fournier instead. Dipo likely had a better value in the market and he rolled the Dice on Ibaka. It didnt work out but I still think Dipo is not a max player. Fournier has a higher BBIQ than Dipo. Dipo is an injury away to become a liability. He rely on his explosiveness and aggresiveness. He still has not shot and remains inconsistent. I fornt want either Fournier or Dipo. I rather get rid of Fournier and go hard in free agency for JJ Redick.

It was going to be either Dipo or Fournier. Fournier was a better player than Dipo and signed for much less. Dipo is going to ask for max money.

Sorry guys.. there is not much else here to talk about here and I found Golden state positionover the next two year very interesting. Trying to make logic of the case of the situation. Maybe this should be move to the other threat.