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    54 minutes ago, ~O~ said:

    The hindsight on Doncic should be killing everyone here but as we know, the future is vague.  I thought Donovan Mitchell showed out his first year but Luka Doncic...has followed up an already dominant year with a superstar year.  He's top five in the league at the very least.  He's the best overall player in the league for now looking at the advance stats.  This is his second year.  I even watch the Mavs to see this guy show off.  Doncic was a veteran coming in and ready to slap around the NBA's players.

     

    I still don't understand why Doncic should upset anyone on this board. There was nothing we could do to get him. It's not even like we weren't tanking the end of that year. Short of literally forfeiting the game, I don't see how we could have done more to lose. This is a wierd running thing with this board that I don't understand. Isn't there enough to complain about with the terrible moves this team has actually made without blaming them for something they couldn't control?

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    1 hour ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Unforgivable not to trade anyone they wanted and every pick we had for doncic 

    We could have offered anything we wanted, anything they wanted, the Devos family jewels, even the rights to Fran Vasquez, and it wouldn't have mattered. Dallas made us completely irrelevant in that trade. They had the pick ahead of us. There was nothing we could do.

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    10 hours ago, Originalticketholder said:

    I apologize in advance if that is not a sarcastic post but clearly those three examples you use,  they are great team players because they have all won NBA titles (which no on one player can win on their own) and made the players around them better.  In two of the cases (Jordan and Durant) they played for less money than they should have been paid (that is a team player).  Clearly all three players worked hard to expand and improve their games every year.  Clearly all three give your team the best chance to win a game at the end and should have the ball in their hands and clearly they have all won many games at the end.  At times they failed but never was it throwing up wide open bricks like we saw the other night.  Clearly, as the Pacer's game showed (just the most recent example), this is not Fournier.

    It was in no way sarcasm. Clearly the major difference with Evan Fournier and Terrence Ross, compared to Kobe Bryant, is that Kobe was a team player. Evan, Ross, and Kobe...all 6'7", 205-210 lbs. That's just science. They should be just as good. And they would be, except they clearly only care about themselves. I mean, look at Kobe's record as a team mate. Look at Durant's. Look at Jordan's.

    Jordan cared about his team so much he came back after they started to struggle when he quit on them to go play baseball (it had nothing to do with the fact that he sucked at baseball). And then when the owner threatened to do something he didn't like a few years later, he quit again. For the team. All for one and one for all, that was MJ.

    Durant? Oh my Lord, this guy was so team oriented he waited until the last two teams he quit on actually lost a series BEFORE he quit. Nothing says team player like waiting until your team is wrecked by injuries to tell them you found someone else. Also, Durant:6'9", Aaron Gordon:6'9". Gordon should be ashamed of himself.

    And Kobe? This man loved his team so much he chased off the most dominant big man in a generation. For the team. I mean, sure Shaq was still a dominant monster who was at times basically un-guardable. But he was also fat, and stealing Kobe's thunder. And clearly the best thing for the team was for Kobe to be the star. Kobe wasn't fat.

    It's hard to watch the selfishness of guys like Fournier and Ross taking wide open shots and missing them sometimes, when guys like Kobe, Durant, and Jordan have shown us all that team players make all their wide open shots. I too have seen those guys miss shots at the end of games. But they were being fouled, by three players at a time, and they each had a hangnail, and the flu, and diabetes, and - if I remember correctly - Jordan only had one eye. And still, nine times out of ten, they put in the effort and found a way to make those shots.

    Our guys are a bunch of lazy, selfish, jerks. Imagine if you had Kobe, along with the best Center of the generation, and All-NBA veterans at PF and PG. With Kobe's team-oriented leadership, you couldn't lose. You certainly couldn't fail twice.

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    On 11/24/2019 at 11:41 AM, Originalticketholder said:

    Did you miss the 3 point bricks he (along with Ross) threw up at the end of the game last night.  Wide open 3 pt. bricks I might add. I acknowledge he is playing better but he needs to turn the corner for someone else other than us.   If you cannot make any wide open shots at the end of an NBA game you are not a team player.   Holiday (2nd year player) nails a 3 while our veterans throw up bricks does not define a team player

    Yes, clearly missing shots is indicative of not being a team player. If they were putting the team first, they'd never miss at the end of games. I mean, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, what comes to mind? That's right, great team players. That's why they were so clutch. Durant? Clutch as hell. And no one is more about the team than Durant.

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    1 hour ago, MagicJED said:

    Gordon is the only starter not playing well during this stretch. He is only interested in trying to get his that he is not staying in the flow of the offense and not scoring because of it. People who have bashed the Fournier and Vucevic pairing who also thought AG would be an All-Star for us are looking pretty sill. 

    AG is going to be blocked from DPOY by his own teammate in JI! LOL

    If he would just play like a good teammate instead of just stop the lip service if he's not going to live up to what he says. He might actually be the odd man out in a trade. AG just needs to focus on his defense, stay within the offense, and stop forcing fadeaway jumpers. 

    This is some serious Gordon hate right here. Gordon has been fine during this stretch. He hasn't had a legitimately bad game since, like, Milwaukee. He had an 18-13-7 line against Philly. If you think Gordon is supposed to get 20 every night, then... sure, he's terrible... let's trade him for a bag of chips. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

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    7 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:

    I had a moment of clarity earlier. 

    I think our offensive-defensive player balance is ok. I've thought for a long time adding an offensive player in place of a defensive player would possibly destroy our ceiling as a defensive team. 

    But that doesn't really mean we can't add an offensive upgrade to an offensive player. 

     

    So I think Fournier and a pick for JJ is something realistic and something that would improve our offense. 

    JJ provides a big upgrade on the skills we need from Evan but doesn't necessarily need the ball as often freeing up shots for other guys. We save a chunk of money letting us fill out the bench with a vet. So basically we'd be turning a 37-38% three point shooter into a 41% three point shooter. 

    The downside is Fournier can get to the basket and JJ can't so we're losing that part of his game and need fultz and Gordon to take that responsibility. But that could be a good thing. 

     

    You bastard! Stop playing with my emotions like that. That's bloody brilliant!

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    I can't figure out how I feel about a DeRozan trade idea. I think he'd be an upgrade in a vacuum over Fournier. But can you cover for a Fultz/DeRozan backcourt with the average shooters we have elsewhere in the starting lineup? If Fultz was even an average shooter, I think it could work. But he's not. Do you bench him? DJ/DeRozan/Isaac/Gordon/Vucevic has got to be a playoff roster, right? You're not really giving up on Fultz, just putting him where he can best succeed, with the second unit. Don't even change their minutes. But can he come back from that? Is it worth the possibility of hurting Fultz to get the team another year of playoff experience.

     

    And who would the trade be for? I would assume Fournier, but what filler even works? Aminu? Who could we reasonably get to replace Aminu?

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    3 hours ago, Fultz4thewin said:

    Yeah.

    But fwiw Robbins is adamant that we love how Isaac and Gordon fit together and he'd be shocked if he was moved this year. 

    We're going to be patient with fultz, Isaac, Gordon, and Bamba. I doubt we'll break that up this year. 

    To be fair, our defense is usually scary good when Isaac and Gordon are on the floor together. That's why Aminu makes sense. We can play the same way without the massive dropoff. Gordon shouldn't be untouchable, but how he fits with Isaac makes him VERY valuable to this team. Fultz showed last night how well he can fit into that defensive potential. We need what we've all known we needed: upgrades at 2 and 5. But mostly at 2.

    Vuc can at least offset his defensive troubles with offense (now, if he can't figure out how to get back to last year's production on that end, he's an albatross, but hopefully he starts hitting 3's again, which will do the trick I think). Fournier needs to be our sixth man. I've been calling for that for years, and it needs to happen. He's a hard worker who CAN do a lot offensively, albeit inconsistently. He's better than Ross, I think, because of his more varied offensive game. We should have drafted Mikal Bridges. We might be beating teams 90-85, But that defense would be stifling. We'd be like the Thibs-era Bulls, but hopefully healthier. And with the Fultz/Rose comparisons...

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    12 minutes ago, KRISH10 said:

    He has had several games like this over the years, he’s not a bad bench player but I just don’t understand why he is our perennial starting 2 guard. Real question, would he be a long term starter on any other team?

    I think he could be a long term starter on a lot of teams. Some of them even good teams. The real problem with Evan Fournier is not even really Evan Fournier. It's how this team uses him. He should be used more like Gordon, letting the game come to him mostly, and feeding him when he's hot. Instead, we let him run the offense. Hopefully Fultz will overtake that.

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    37 minutes ago, Eskobar said:

    I check this forum out every now and then and continue to be amazed at how surprised so many are about the state of the team. I've said it a million times, no team giving Fournier and AG significant minutes is ever going to amount to anything. Fournier is complete garbage and always has been, and AG is nothing more than an energy role player off the bench. I said that when we drafted him and he has still yet to prove me wrong.

    I get that everyone's angry after a loss, but really? AG is an energy role player OFF THE BENCH? He might be an energy role player, but he's far from a bench player. If he's just a role player, he's one of the better 'just a role player' guys in the league, starters included. Role players are important. His role, if he is completely done growing as a player, seems to be a defense and opportunistic offense guy, which is very valuable if he can do it effectively (all signs are that he can). Also, even Fournier is a solid bench player, not complete garbage (he was bad tonight, but that's why he shouldn't be starting; but he plays well enough consistently enough to earn solid minutes even on a good team).

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    1 minute ago, South_Aussie_Magic said:

    I was always under the  impression Jrue Holiday was a combo guard who was useful wherever he was put due to his length and defensive acumen?

    I'm hoping Fultz is in a similar mold really (i've no idea about his length but his not a SMALL guard is he?) - I think having two of those wouldn't be the worst thing in the world would it?

    Wouldn't be the worst thing ever. But I don't think he's worth the money for us.

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    23 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    We have Fultz. What purpose would Jrue serve? 

    Jrue is a SG. Fultz is a PG. I don't think Jrue would solve any of our problems, but that has nothing to do with Fultz, and everything to do with him being a 30-year-old small SG who isn't that good of a scorer anyway. My opinion, for the record, is that Beal signing that extension sucks really bad, as he would be perfect in Orlando, and if Washington had any brains they'd commit to a rebuild.

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    5 hours ago, fan for too long 2 said:

    And what good team has their center as their best scorer? Maybe philly and that’s it. 

    Nuggets (yeah, I get that Jokic isn't their top scorer right now; but he was last year when they dominated, which speaks to your point, since that's still modern NBA team, plus I suspect Jokic leads by the end of the year).

     

    How many teams are considered good? 10? if so, that's 2 out of 10 whose likely top scorers are centers. 5 positions means that's about right. 12? Still pretty darn close. 16? Of the 16 playoff teams last year, the top PPG was a center for 3 of those teams: Philly, Orlando, and San Antonio. 3 out of 16 holds that pattern, close enough. Minnesota looks pretty good early riding KAT. AD could certainly be the starting C for the Lakers and they'd still be good. The idea that the NBA isn't friendly to high-scoring centers is just wrong. You can have plenty of success in the NBA with your top scorer as a Center, even today. It's different than it used to be, true. Modern 5's have to be mobile, be able to pass and shoot, and they must be able to competently switch without getting torched every time. Vuc is good for most of that, but he's inconsistent with scoring and defending (he's never particularly good at defending, but sometimes he's survivable with the massive defensive talent that we can surround him with).

     

    I'm not a big Vuc fan. But Vuc has not been the problem early in the year. Yes, his %s need to improve. That's the whole team. Everyone is shooting like crap right now. If and when that changes, this team could go on a pretty big run. What's encouraging to me is that I haven't noticed the team as a whole getting lazy on defense when the shots aren't falling. That shows they know their identity is defense. That's exactly what I want to see.

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