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    Look, I have no problem with any of Orlando's losses or wins this past season. We had a ghost of a roster, and that's when you just let it fly with the young guys. I'm not mad at moving on from the old guard. I get it. I just don't want this organization to think that trying to get the first pick in the draft is going to save us. This right here shows that has a very high likelihood of failing miserably.

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    5 minutes ago, All Eyes On Me said:

    Nah, the anti-tanking crowd is circling the May 3rd win over the team we finished a game ahead of that wound up with Cade

    You do realize the bottom three teams had the exact same chances of that pick, right? That win was meaningless either way. A loss would have been just as meaningless.

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    3 hours ago, Jay Magic said:

    Cant wait to see this. I want this guy on our roster. Sounds mad but id even consider him 8th pick. He is that good. In my personal opinion 

    Bones Hyland is an absolutely special shooter. Not sure if Orlando is the right place to develop him, because, well, we haven't developed a shooter since JJ, and we legitimately don't seem to know what to do with guys who can shoot... but it's a new day, so hell yeah, bring it on.

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    11 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    It not working out for them is irrelevant to us 

    The entire point is that it has never resulted in a championship. That is the argument I've been making since literally the first sentence of my entry into this exchange. Feel free to debunk that argument, but teams who didn't win it all by tanking, paired with Boston who didn't tank, isn't working.

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    20 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Facts 

     

    To elaborate, only Memphis among those teams tanked (had consecutive poor seasons). Their tanking resulted in Hasheem Thabeet, Rudy Gay and Mike Conley...not exactly a haul worth tanking for. They got good when they stopped tanking and got good veterans

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    2 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    If by new you mean 46 years old and life-long Magic fan. Family season ticket holders from inaugural season through 2005 and have probably missed 20 games since the franchises inception, then yeah...I’m new 

    Cool. Not new, just either a bad memory or a selective one.

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    20 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Not sure what that means but surely you remember all the talk of us wanting to win ASAP for Devos. There’s no way we threw three seasons, which is what you’re implying. Actually you’re not implying it, you’re saying we chose to suck over choosing to be competitive. Sorry, but thats just not accurate 

    Talk is talk. Our actions were of a team that was throwing away seasons. Trading JJ, trading Aaron Aflalo, not re-signing Anderson, those were tanking moves. We traded solid veterans for unproven young guys that were not too picks. That is not really up for debate. Again, are you new to this team?

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    2 minutes ago, hootie249 said:

     It's over after tonight and even with a loss it's totally about Lottery balls. There was always going to be a tank after deadline day, no need to argue about it. 

    If it's over. Some people seem to be advocating intentionally being terrible again next year if we don't get a top pick

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    1 minute ago, gobucsmagic said:

    It’s not tanking. It’s sucking. You’re calling it tanking to try to make yourself sound correct but you’re not 

    You can engage in all the absurd semantics you want. Three seasons <25 wins is tanking by any measurement, whether it helps your argument or not.

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    2 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Who? Andrew Bynum lol. If there was a snowballs chance of getting Harden I’m sure we would have gone all in. Since we’ll never know it’s kind of hard to speculate, but typically when you’re forced to trade your top player it sort of naturally leads to a rebuild and a few rough years. This idea that we chose to be bad rather than choosing to be good is silly. The later option was never really on the table 

    Several reports that we could have had Curry, but were worried about his injuries. Dwight was a significantly better deal than what OKC got for Harden. No reason to think OKC wouldn't have gone for it. Plenty of teams have lost great players and continued rebuilt without multiple seasons of tanking.

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    9 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

    You mean like a team who made the playoffs 10 times in 11 years, went to the WCF twice and the finals once, had 2 MVPs and like 5 All Stars? I'm sure OKC fans are just mortified that they watched all that sucking basketball (exactly 2 seasons of wins in the 20s) before that. 

    I'm pretty sure OKC fans are no happier with those years than fans in Houston, Memphis, Boston, or any other perennial playoff team that didn't win it all over those years, except they didn't have to suffer tanking multiple seasons.

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    1 minute ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Your assertion that we lost on purpose for multiple seasons is stupid. There, I said it 

    Disagree with me all you want, Jaque Vaughn's entire tenure was losing on purpose. Unless you mean the players. In that case, sure. They tried to win. And failed. Monstrously. By design. But tell yourself what you want. If three seasons <25 wins isn't enough for you, nothing will be.

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    2 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Tonight we need to lose. How that occurs is irrelevant. If anyone believes we shouldn’t please just explain why you’d rather have lower odds for a higher draft pick 

    If the players lose on purpose they are idiots. It's irrelevant what I want. I would prefer we lose tonight. I would prefer the players do their best to win. GMs can tank. Coaches and players can't.

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    7 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

    Did I say they did?

    No. No you did not. You made excuses for why they didn't. I don't care about excuses. You know what other teams have excuses? Teams that didn't tank. If I have to choose which team I'd rather have been watching, a team that tried and had to make excuses for why they didn't get it done, and one who sucked on purpose for years only to end up with the same results... I'll take a team who at least gives themselves a chance.

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    7 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

    Because we sucked! Sucking isn’t tanking. Tanking for us means losing tonight, that’s it. The idea that will somehow cripple the culture of this franchise is ridiculous 

    Are you suggesting the players on the team should lose on purpose?

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    3 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

    This incorrectly assumes that the reason OKC didn't win a championship was because of tanking and not because they traded James Harden for pennies on the dollar to avoid the luxury tax, kept Scott Brooks as coach for far too long and lost a game 7 to the winningest regular season team of all time. 

    Winning a championship is very hard. Only 1 team wins a championship every year so every year 29 teams had a strategy that didn't win a championship. 

     

    Did they win a championship?

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    Just now, gobucsmagic said:

    We didn’t tank as hard as we could any season, much less multiple seasons,  so I’m not understanding the point of your post. I mean we sucked balls but we never intentionally lost 

    Are you new? We had three straight seasons of 25 wins or less. If you want worse tanking than that, I don't know what to say. Short of just forfeiting games, that's as tanking as it gets. This is beside the point, anyway. The point of my post was to remind people that arguing for tanking harder is foolish, because it doesn't work. You're welcome to show me how I'm wrong.

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