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    4 minutes ago, Luke_FfS said:

    My first answer was related to Jrue, and Jrue+ a small asset would be something that I would absolutely do (one asset+clearing the cap hell+finally changing something that hasn't worked in multiple years) Clearly the coach and the management has to be in line with that directions, something that I clearly doubt. Honestly, I haven't heard a good realistic trade involving him still. From my point of view, I'm not undervaluing, maybe a lot of us have overvalued him in the past and the league has shown that the market is not that great for a player like him, especially now that he's getting older and with a fat contract. I hope that I'm completely wrong and that we get a great deal for him, but I really don't see it right now.

    We don't really know what offers have been on the table. Management doesn't let much leak.

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    1 hour ago, Luke_FfS said:

    It's not undervaluing, it's chosing a path for our future, as our path right now is going nowhere. At this point,  I will accept anything that gave us:

    -a serviciable player on a shorter/cheaper contract + some kind of other asset like a future pick or an expiring.

    I would be really surprised if his real value around the league is more thant that right now. Plus, Vuc was surely more valuable a few years ago, younger and with a cheaper contract, and doesn't seem like we received all those great value offers for him.

    I agree with trading him in the right trade, but not some of the bad trades I see.

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    17 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

    He's a combo guard. Not really big enough to be called a 2 (although he has a decent wingspan) and not really good enough with his handle and passing to be a 1. He fits quite well with Fultz though if his 3 point jumper falls because on offense hes better off ball either spotting up or attacking a scrambling defense and on defense hes a good point of attack defender which could free Fultz up to be a pest off ball with his length. 

    It really all depends on his jumper. It didn't go in as much as you'd like in college but small sample size and he has a bunch of positive indicators that suggest it'll be better. 

    id rather have Lewis or Anthony as playmakers. They also have good upside and can play next to fultz.

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    11 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

    It really depends on your evaluation of the players at the top and also on your evaluation of Fultz. 

    If you think Fultz has all star potential I can't see a world where he and Lamelo fit together (though I do think Lamelo's probably got the most upside in the draft).

    I like Deni but I don't think he's got all star upside. I actually think his upside is like an AG level player. Starting forward on a good team. He'd have to make giant leaps as a ball handler and shooter for him to be more than that. 

    The theory of what Ant Edwards could be is a nice fit on this team either next to Fultz or not (depending on your opinion of Fultz) but his shot selection is dreadful, he plays no defense despite his immense tools and for a top 5 guy in his class he's never finished a season over .500 (like ever, not high school or AAU or college). 

    With Terry I think if you want him, rather than trying to trade back into the draft, it'll cost less to either trade back to about 18-20 or just pick him at 15. Getting a second pick in this draft would probably cost us our 2021 pick and that's a pretty exciting class so if anything I'd be trying to acquire more picks in that draft.

    I don't think ball and fultz fit, so if ball is drafted, fultz would be moved. 

    As far as dani, I really like the warriors eye for talent. They didn't miss in the draft. Plus dani is going to benefit from the luka effect and his pro experience. Therefore, I am high on him. I don't think the magic want him but I can see him do really well on the right team. He remains me of Gordon Hayward or TONI KUKOC. 

    I am hoping teams think the draft is so bad that we can get a second 1st round pick on the cheap. I think Terry has good upside but not at 15. I would try Terry late 1st. 

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    5 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

    Great trade if we want to win 25 games for the foreseeable future.

    Otherwise terrible. Wiggins has negative value. Vuc is our most valuable player. This is the worst draft since 2013 (where we also had pick 2 funnily enough) there's every chance the guy we pick at 15 will be better than the guy who gets picked at 2. 

    People keep acting like the top picks in the draft are valuable despite the fact that the Warriors are absolutely desperate to get rid of pick 2 and the Wolves also would prefer to trade pick 1.

    Neither team with the top 2 picks want them, why should anybody else? 

    I would say ball and the European forward are top tier talents. Those are players you trade for. If we truly like fultz, as our future, then don't trade. Grab his back up at 15. I would trade to get a pick in the late 1 round for Terry as well. Ball would easily become the face of the team.

     

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    On 9/29/2020 at 12:53 PM, jmmagicfan said:

    I liked DiVincenzo when he came into the NBA, and I still do. I'm just not sure that he is worth Birch AND moving back nine spots in the draft. I'm also not convinced that Bamba is ready to be the full-time backup at the center, so this would mean either picking up another free-agent center, or using the #24 pick for another big. I also think that means moving down another "tier" in the draft. There are arguably a group of 9-10 guys that could be picked anywhere between pick #13 and pick #20, and yes, you might get lucky and pick up the guy you like at #24, but you are much more likely to get him at #15. This move really only makes sense to me if there is someone you like that is already projected as a late first/early second round guy that you are sure will be there at #24 - or if there isn't anyone you really like that is likely to be available outside the top 10. 

    I agree. I would rather trade up or take a playmaker. In order, T. Terry, C. Anderson, and K. Lewis , I am eyeballing.  If we trade up, it is for Ball or Edwards. Though, I like ball. I dont think he fits what management wants. He is really bad on defense and may have character issues that they dont normally like in players. ball also does not fit well next to fultz. (shooting) 

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    On 9/26/2020 at 1:28 PM, CTMagicUK said:

    Continuing with the theme of that last post. Tyrell Terry looks significantly bigger (muscle wise) in a recent video than he did at Stanford. 

    yup. I was just saying to someone that I could see us getting him. He could also play next to fultz. He is now 6'3" and added 20 pounds of muscle. He is on my radar. great shooter off dribble, off screens and even handling the ball. Ok passer not athletic but competitive. 

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    On 9/24/2020 at 11:41 AM, HeartAndHustle said:

    I wouldn't do this deal. Maybe I'm missing something, but we would give up Khem and slide down 9 spots in the draft to get a below average shooter. That's on a team where Giannis is getting people open shots, too. Does Donte DiVincenzo do something I don't see in his stats?

    I have heard. He is high end defender 

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    https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/09/21/nba-rumors-kyle-lowry-could-land-with-bucks-in-potential-three-team-deal-with-raptors-and-magic/

     

    Trade Rumor for draft day:

    Toronto Raptors get: Eric Bledsoe, Ersan Ilyasova and a 2023 first-round pick (via Milwaukee Bucks), the No. 15 pick in the 2020 draft (via Orlando Magic) and Khem Birch

    Milwaukee Bucks get: Kyle Lowry

    Orlando Magic get: Donte DiVincenzo and the No. 24 pick in the 2020 draft (via Milwaukee Bucks)

     

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    On 9/21/2020 at 11:48 AM, hootie249 said:

      Nah, at this point i would love to see them play the Heat. I had wanted the Celtics but they are annoying, ***** them.

    In all honesty, i want Lebron to win one more this year.He has been the second best player i have ever watched play in my lifetime, let him get one more and then retire.

    One more title, and then his farewell tour, and then the Lakers can suck again for 8 years.

    I lost a lot of respect for Labron after his attitude after the magic bet him in 2009. He just cries too much for me. Another example was with his words after him losing the MVP this year. He just cries too much.   

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    On 9/18/2020 at 10:50 AM, Soul Bro said:

    First, our team needs to establish a plan and culture and then move forward. Then our team needs to be willing to trade or let some of our high usage vets go in order to find the Nunns, VanVleets, Richardsons and Herros of the world. To me that would mean saying goodbye to people like DJ, Fournier, etc.

    The hard part in Orlando is we don’t have an alpha dog in the locker room who knows what it takes to win. To set the culture. It may be small but there’s a reason Haslem is still on the bench. A lot of work to do in Orlando to take that next step.

    Our biggest issue has been player development and injuries. With the injury to JI, we have 0 to show for our draft picks from the new regime. we have swung and missed too much. Even when adding players that would cause a log jam, because people thought they were the best talent. I am still waiting to see the value of players drafted. It means a lot that you only have wes to show for our playoff run. We just have too do much better. sometimes player fit makes a big difference for players producing and developing. If you draft like players because another player has a better ceiling, it may mean you have to trade so you give the higher ceiling player time to play. 

    We have started to show a culture of winning with players that can defend multiple positions, low turnovers, limiting second chances, player length, and unselfish offense. It is not really a culture thing, we just are lacking on talent. We have wasted too many picks and now it has caught up to us. At this moment, vuch should be easy traded, because we added a 6th pick center that had a higher ceiling (2 years ago), but because we swung and missed, it is hard to make a move, because Mo Bomba is not showing promise.  I personally see an issue with our draft choices. Most of the players producing, were inherited. I need to see what okeke does and what we add this year, because was I am seeing now is a bad trend so far. (I do love JI but lord God, he can not stay healthy.)

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    17 hours ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    I haven't been able to do enough deep watching this season but there has to be an explanation on why his impact is what it is while also looking like he is terrible. 

    I know early on in the season his rotations were bad and he was out of position a lot. Has that improved any? Just being in the right spot can impact a defense even if you're playing defense terribly. 

    I wonder how much his length plays into it. Being in the wrong spot but being long enough to still alter shots can make up for getting pushed around or being in the wrong spot. 

    I don't know if I can think of anything else without really watching him for a few games.

    He just doesn't play with enough energy, so it looks really bad.

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