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  1. 2025 Off-Season Thread

    in Orlando Magic Forum

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    12 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

    Malcolm Brogdon for the vet minimum or maybe the BAE might be a move to make at PG. It's a bit risky considering his injury history and he was bad last year in Washington (hence why he might be gettable for the vet minimum) but he's got proven track record as an NBA PG who can shoot and play off of a star forward. 

    If he could stay healthy he'd be the person I'd want 100%

  4. 2025 Off-Season Thread

    in Orlando Magic Forum

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    REPORT: The Orlando Magic is seen as a potential trade destination for Mark Williams, per source.

    They’ve expressed some interest in the young center and could acquire him with a cheap offer. After the Laker saga, Williams’ value on the market dropped but still has potential.

    Via AnthonyA_NBA

    on twitter 

  5. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    39 minutes ago, OnlyFranz said:

    Sorry to be a Debbie downer to your premature championship parade but you don’t win championships or even become a contender over night. Let’s actually win a playoff series first before we start having championship aspirations. 
     

    I’m certainly happy Weltman finally made a move to address our shooting concerns but I’m in the camp that still believes we need a good point guard to really unlock this offense. I get that Paolo and Franz CAN initiate the offense for stretches of the game but SHOULD they do it is a completely different question, hear me out. 
     

    Taking the ball out of our stars hands isn’t necessarily a bad thing when you have 2 guys at the wings who are great at cutting and excellent at finishing at the rim. We hardly take advantage of this aspect of their games because our offense relies on too much iso ball instead of having more off ball movement and getting other players involved in the offense.
     

    Paolo himself even stated last offseason he wanted us to bring in a pg so he wouldn’t have as much ball handling responsibility having to initiate the offense. This would allow him to focus more on his play down low, which would result in easier baskets and theoretically more chances to get to the free throw line. Same could be applied to Franz with the way he finishes around the rim. He would get so many more easy chances around the rim by simply cutting to the basket and having a player that can actually get him the ball.
     

    So while I’m ecstatic about the Bane trade I, honestly don’t think he’s the missing piece and that we’re still a year or two away from actually competing for a championship. Either way this should be an exiting season and hopefully one without so many injuries. Can’t wait to watch the team grow, Go Magic! 

    All I hear is we need a point guard 

    We need a PG...

    What would getting a new PG in do for our offense? Please explain??

    He'd take the ball out of Paolos hands

    Franz hands.. Banes hands .. Suggs Hands? 

  6. 2025 Off-Season Thread

    in Orlando Magic Forum

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    15 minutes ago, Luke_FfS said:

    LOL

    I've heard that one million times, but they're playing game 6 of the Finals, they're a great group with their own style and a great coach, while our guys are watching them on TV since end of April. We're not better than anyone until we show that on playoffs, not on a forum.

    A million times is exaggerating slightly I'm sure but yeah....

    No problem. I'll time is coming. 

    They are a good team yeah.... But...

    We are just a absolute nightmare match up for them ...  and that's a fact.

     

  7. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    38 minutes ago, MagicFanDan said:

    Bane was 8th in the NBA among guards in self created shots made last year. 8th!!! That’s ahead of Donavan Mitchell and Trae Young. He, isn’t some guy who stands in the corner and waits. He will create for himself and others. 

    This!!! My sentiments exactly 

  8. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    55 minutes ago, MagicFanDan said:

    9 of the 10 guards on the above list are generally considered the best guards in the league. The one excluded is Bane, because the national media and casual NBA fans don’t pay much or any attention to Memphis. The reality is Bane is much more than just a 3 and D SG. Yes, he’s a great shooter and plays great D. But, each of the last 3 seasons he’s been top 10 in transition points and last year he averaged 5.3 assist per game. For reference, that’s 15th in the NBA and ahead of guys like D.White, C.White, Garland or other supposed traditional PG’s that people want. 

    Therefore, comparing him to KCP is criminal in my opinion and almost laughable. 
     

    Bane is a lead guard and I wouldn’t be surprised by year end if he’s considered by many in the media and on this board as our second best player and Franz is relegated to our 3rd option offensively. If Franz is our 3rd option meaning his usage rate drops significantly, I’d expect his efficiency to increase which will do wonders for him and us.

     

    Health Depending, I wouldn’t be surprised if Paolo and Bane are all-stars next year and Franz/suggs are considered elite role players. 

    Say it louder for those at the back!!

  9. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    4 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

    And your blind loyalty and belief is per usual. 
     

    Some have said on here that Franz is a star.  And that his shooting will come around. This is not correct at all. His shooting has steadily declined the last 3 years. He has not figured it out.  Will he? Who knows. Your blind faith in that happening is foolish to say the least.  “Stars” do not shoot 30% or worse from 3. Unless he bulks up and becomes Giannis lol, he will not be a star, just a good solid player. Stop looking at the Magic players with rose colored glasses. 
     

    we have one star on this team and that is Paolo. Who after the season two years ago expressed his desire to get a playmaker, ie point guard. To take the pressure off him.has this happened yet? Heck no. I and Paolo are still waiting. 

    Not seen you write something that long in a while hahaha

    I'm loyal to the end. Loyalty has nothing to do with this...

    Maybe my belief in us beihg better than we was maybe... 

    But now I'm 1000000% CERTAIN WE ARE CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS 

  10. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    4 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

    This is such a dumb argument. Dude comes into the league and gets labeled a "SG" and we all have to pretend he can't handle the ball and make plays for others because of some archaic archetypes? Do we think the 5 assists a game he averaged last year just fell into his lap? Ja Morant did all the ball handling and then at the last minute he passed to Bane who then passed it to someone else for the assist?

    Literally go to YouTube and type "Desmond Bane triple double" and you can watch full game highlights where he brings the ball up the court, creates off the dribble, makes plays for others etc. 

    It's hard for me to believe someone can watch Desmond Bane play basketball and say with a straight face "well that's all well and good but who's going to pass him the ball?" 

    Coz they just like to moan and pick apart everything as usual 

  11. 2025 Off-Season Thread

    in Orlando Magic Forum

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    5 hours ago, TrueMagicFan07 said:

    I've seen Bane when the Grizzlies played against the Magic and the Warriors. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have never seen him play the point guard position. 

    I don't think JJZL and I are questioning Bane's ability to contribute and help make the team better. It's just that it won't matter if the Magic does not have a point guard who can distribute the ball. Bane is a shooting guard.

     

    Edit: A point guard can't help the team if they can't or don't see the floor and cannot stay upright. Former Magic player Michael Carter Williams is a good example. He and Suggs have a similar style of play.

    Suggs is the same as MCW? Nothing like each other. Jalen can shoot and shoot good and he in a different league defensively 

  13. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    9 hours ago, TrueMagicFan07 said:

    And here is the Magic's problem. Having Tyrese Haliburton, a point guard, who is playing a traditional position, is working just fine for the Pacers.

    By the way, I wouldn't mind having their backup, T.J. McConnell, in a starting pg position for the Magic. That guy is 'fire' and can do it all!

    We are better than the Pacers.

    Same way you said they have Hali

    They don't have a  Paolo..or a Franz.. 

    As for TJ you want a PG that cannot shoot?

  14. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    9 hours ago, orlandoholic said:

    I think we need to scrap these traditional positions out of our heads. Just like we set the 4 out era, we are looking to create something unique again. Basically positionless basketball. 

    The playmaking will be done by our forwards for the most part. We are playing through them. It’s hell for opposing teams! 
    I don’t think we will see a PG who will take the ball out of Franz and Paolos hands. 

    This!!!!!

  15. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    1 hour ago, CTMagicUK said:

    This is a shower thought: 

    One thing I really love about this deal is that it's not Weltman just looking at who's available and being like "sure I guess this guy will help us". 

    Clearly he identified Bane as the guy, put his assets on the table and got the deal done for the guy he wanted. 

    100% Bane was number 1 target and Jeff got us his man. He literally is the perfect fit. Bane is a fantastic player.

    Health permitting we will be a top 3 team... to be honest I'd not be surprised if we went and won the East next year.

    Championship mode is go go go now.

  16. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    2 hours ago, matthi32 said:

    Do we know trade Suggs for Garland or can Suggs and Bane play together in our starting backcourt?

    Garland is not for us. Suggs is gonna be probably all defence 1st team and wouldn't even be surprised if he is in all star talks if he stays healthy. Jalen when Franz and Paolo went out ... I think it was Bucks in the Cup game. He was absolutely insane he stepped up. 

    Jeff Weltman has officially pressed the we are going all in to win not 1 but multiple championships. We got P5..Franz..Suggs..Bane.. Wendell? 

    That starting line up is a top 3 line up in the whole association. It's facts.. u do the analytics on that and u bet you it's off ther charts... He is excellent already... top 5 shooter in the league.. and you know what... he ain't stopped developing. He now comes to a place where he is with P5 who is gojng to go down as all timer... Franz maybe too... 

    Jalen is the best on ball guard I've ever seen probably.. . Definitely top 3 .. GUAURD... HE SHUTS DOWN TEAMS WHOLE PLAYS.. He is a excellent shooter too.. 

    I'll stop there..  if we get the 1.. 2 minor tweaks and the internal improvement happens as Jeff n Co surely have the projections to hit.   

    This team is going to be 1 of them 1s...

    A all timer.... 

  17. 2025 Off-Season Thread

    in Orlando Magic Forum

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    Bane is one of three NBA players with 800 made 3-pointers and 40% 3-point shooting since entering the league in 2020, and has shot 43.2% on catch and shoot 3s in last 5 seasons. He'll be a major boost for the Magic, who ranked last in 3-point field-goal percentage this season.

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  18. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    1 minute ago, MagicFanDan said:

    Anybody know what picks we traded? 

    FULL TRADE DETAILS:

    Grizzlies receive:
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Cole Anthony
    4 unprotected 1st round picks
    One 1st round pick swap

    Magic receive:
    Desmond Bane

    TRADE SZN IS HERE!

  20. 2025 Off-Season Thread

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    6 hours ago, orlandoholic said:

    https://x.com/eurobasket/status/1933163574567878877?s=46

     

    Franz confirmed playing international duties again. I hate it! 

    For once i’d hope he’d extend his off season program to add individual skills. I’m beyond pissed. 
    Franz got the bag and plays along. He doesn’t take the steps necessary to become a legendary player. 

     

    He needs a better handle, a pick and roll shot, midrange shot and a consistent 3 point shot. 

    We won’t see any of this. I guarantee.

    He's playing in a high level tournament so I'm ok with it. 1 thing with Franz he's absolute basketball nut!! He works on his craft. He just needs to become a 35% 3 point shooter and he's guaranteed all NBA every season. 

    Franz is SPECIAL 

     

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