Luke_FfS
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With this news, I'm done!
The Miami Heat have acquired the draft rights to Mario Chalmers from the Minnesota Timberwolves for cash and two second-round picks, according to a league source.
I was hoping that Orlando would make it!
Anyway, five o'clock on the morning here, I'm going to sleep........
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I don't know a lot about college players, but for what I read, I would try to get Chalmers right now, just to have a PG insurance.
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From ESPN:
The Detroit Pistons have verbally agreed to trade the draft rights to D.J. White to the Seattle SuperSonics for two of the Sonics' second-round picks -- the 32nd and 46th picks -- according to a Pistons source.
This is getting boring... please make JVG shut up and go faster...
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quote:Originally posted by Natmayo:Travis Diener looking perhaps for a new home. I know Hutch wouldnt mind the Magic looking his way again LOL
I'm thinking that Tinsley will be traded instead of Diener.
But wouldn't mind to have him back as a third PG, altough I really doubt he would accept...
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quote:Originally posted by jack daniel 999:Knicks no.6 - Gallinari
looks like we didn't trade up to them
I was thinking the same about the trade.
I feel bad for Gallinari, coming from another country where he was the star and the first experience after getting picked is the booooo from his crowd...
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quote:Originally posted by jack daniel 999:Ilove how they booed Stern
Seems to be a very long night for him...
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Thank you JD
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quote:Originally posted by You're Fat, Pat!:sounds good to me...his brothers a flippin pansie...
I'd love to have a more physical player...and Offense isn't really that big of a deal with this team...we haven plenty of that...but defense and rebounding and shot blocking is exactly what we need...
I'm not sure about that.
First, I'm pretty convinced that he hurried a little his decision.
Second, he's a center, no way to play him PF in NBA, and we already have the Warlock on this role.
On the other side, he's waaaaay better than Fran, and he was the player with the better overall production in the Spanish League.
OFF TOPIC, take a look at Rudy Fernandez in Portland, if he'll find playing time, he's really NBA ready and a very spectacular player.
And in the Oliympics, Ricky Rubio will play for Spain, a 17 years old PG with a very bright future.
I really hope the Magic could draft him someday...
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quote:Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf:I know we have some posters who are familiar with and watch the Euro game. What are your impressions of Marc Gasol.
I've read comments recently from several sources that indicate if he were in this years draft he would be a lottery pick and he's better than Brook Lopez.
Are those comments completely off base, slightly exaggerated, or accurate?
Thoughts???
Can't make a comparision with Lopez 'cause I don't know his game.
But I've seen playing Marc Gasol almost every week here in Spain, and I could say that he's a true center, a lot more physical than his brother Pau, more rebounds, more blocks.
On the other side, he's still a little raw on offense, he isn't skilled as his brother and he's a little slower.
In my opinion, one more year in Europe playing Euroleague (he has played in a minor cup last year) was required, but he choose to try himself in the NBA right now.
Best case: Zidrunas Ilgauskas.
Worst case: back in Europe after one year.
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quote:Originally posted by echo4papa:That being said,
Some of the data had to be manipulated manually, some of the data is still missing, and I am sure some good idea's will come from other people here.
over the next couple of weeks (if there is interest), Marc and I will be making some corrections and additions to clean up the rest of the data, and perhaps incorporate some ideas from teh thread as well.
I will then re-run the data, make any corrections to the original post, and we can move forward from there.
In my opinion, count a player like Scola for SA altough he didn't show up for the team is something that could be changed.
Using this method, why not count the PER that Fran did this year in Barcelona (just a joke, don't worry...)
Seriously, I believe that only drafting a player is not enough if this player will never play a minute for this team, but this is just my opinion.
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quote:Originally posted by Natmayo:I would say their superior international scouting. They really seem to know their stuff when it comes to international players, and Pop isnt afraid to put their feet to the fire and get good results
This is right with players like Parker and Ginobili, but not with others.
They draft the best European player of the last years, and never put him in their roster (Scola)
They have the rights of two good centers like Splitter and Mahimi, and they still are in Europe.
But they can take the risk of waiting because they were very good in the last years.
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quote:Originally posted by SmackDaddy:quote:Originally posted by echo4papa:Top 5 Magic Selections:
1. Keith Bogans (43)
2. Zaza Pachulia (42)
3. Jameer Nelson (20)
4. Travis Diener (38)
5. Anderson Verajao (30)
What's interesting is that 4 of those 5 players went on to play elsewhere. Obviously Bogans has returned, but what does that say about the Magic's ability to develop talent?
Quite difficult when you're trying to rebuilding, maybe now that we have a core of good players this could improve. (Detroit is a good example)
Anyway, I'm sure that we aren't the only team with this type of problem.
Could we know the picks that make SA first?
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:It's pretty interesting that the Bucks and the Sonics have still managed to stink even while drafting that well over the last 10 yrs. SEA seems to draft well then they get rid of the players.
True, but draft them is only the first step, next one is to give them confidence and developing time.
And didn't trade for instant assets is another point.
Orlando rank in the middle, but has already lost a lot of the players on the list.
Thanks Ech04papa, very interesting post.
Only one question, how did your system work when a team is drafting a player for another team, 'cause they've already agreed on a trade before the draft?
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quote:Originally posted by Nick Anderson 4 President:WTM does Schmitz know about the draft?
Count me out.
They didn't know so much, and they aren't able to put a working chat in the site too...
quote:From Orlando Sentinel Blog:OK, technical difficulties are making our live chat not works so well, but we'll use this blog post to answer your questions.
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quote:Originally posted by echo4papa:How did we get the pick that brought Jameer to the team?
Very good point.
The problem is: you need another team to make a deal.
And if N.O. made it with Portland, and not with one of the others 28 teams, is not because the cash in Portland has more value than in Orlando...
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quote:Originally posted by ball junkie:Here's a quote from the article:
quote:After some dismal outcomes in recent years with late picks, the Magic need to find a gem in this unpredictable draft. "There's always self-imposed pressure, but that's OK," Twardzik said. Their list of players who could be available at 22 is as long as 10. Who will they pick? Let's check the secretive Twardzik's itinerary for clues: He twice saw Rider forward Jason Thompson. He expects this draft to be deep. "You can get somebody in the 20s who can help you," Twardzik said.
Chad Ford has him going at Number 20 to the Nuggets. I'm going to provide a link for those that are interested. This dude has put up some monster numbers! Check it yourself:
Am I the only one thinking that if a GM/Scout gives a name to a journalist, this player isn't going to be selected?
They usually try to hide this type of choice...
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quote:Originally posted by Orlando Sentinel:Looking for basketball IQ
Twardzik has seen some amazing athletes, but high on his scouting checklist is "basketball IQ. We look for guys who have a great feel for the game and make right decisions," he said. "We don't put a lot of emphasis on statistics. It's more what we see on the floor."
Twardzik says the Magic "draft as if no else is drafting."
They rank their top 30 players and cross them off as they are picked. They fit a need only if the talent is comparable. Twardzik cautions fans who study mock drafts. "My list is way different" he said.
My attention is on the quote:
"My list is way different"
I'm a little worried right now, but maybe it could be a positive factor.
Any thoughts?
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quote:Originally posted by Orlando Sentinel:Looking for basketball IQ
Twardzik has seen some amazing athletes, but high on his scouting checklist is "basketball IQ. We look for guys who have a great feel for the game and make right decisions," he said. "We don't put a lot of emphasis on statistics. It's more what we see on the floor."
Twardzik says the Magic "draft as if no else is drafting."
They rank their top 30 players and cross them off as they are picked. They fit a need only if the talent is comparable. Twardzik cautions fans who study mock drafts. "My list is way different" he said.
My attention is on the quote:
"My list is way different"
I'm a little worried right now, but maybe it could be a positive factor.
Any thoughts?
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quote:Originally posted by You're Fat, Pat!:On August 16th, 2008 at 10:15am Eastern Time a glorious happening will occur.
The United States of America
vs.
Spain
Not only is it a great matchup of two of the world's basketball powers, but it also features a head-to-head matchup that will go down in the history books as one of the greatest of all-time.
Mr. Dwight Howard
vs.
Mrs. Fran Vasquez
So now, I present an opportunity to you Magic fans. Explain what will happen on that fateful day. Will Dwight greet Franny with open arms? Will he encourage him to come play for our beloved squad? Or will Dwight make Mr. Vasquez pay for the pain and torture he has caused the Magic Nation.
VOICE YOUR OPINION.
pictures, captions, dialogue. all is welcome...
I'm really sorry 'cause I could feel a lot of expectation in your words, but this isn't going to happen...
Fran hasn't played with Spain in a international competition yet, neither will do this summer after the worst year of his career.
He's not even in the standby list of players that could join the team in case of injuries.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/news/lateN...s_lateNews_arti.html
Anyway, take a look to Ricky Rubio if he will have a chance to play, he's only 17, but he's already a very good player and a fantastic prospect in the PG position.
Not yet a shooting force, but his defense, ability to steal, vision of the court are really good.
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quote:Originally posted by barnettej:There is no argument in the many reason's why International players go back..... I have lived in Europe before.
The bottom line is that it hurts the NBA as a whole, Teams practically lose draft picks that may set them back a couple of years.
If Fran actually played for us, then we probably wouldnt need a PF as bad as we do now. Which would of made it alot easier to fill our wholes through the draft and FA. But now since PF is apart of the needs group, we are going to have to make some quick decisions to fill the needs for next year (PF,SG,Bench).
So when teams are set back, its reflected in their win/loss column, which is the column that affects rather or not people pay to see their home team play. Ofcourse major markets are not effected as much as smaller markets are.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to justify international players, only to add arguments.
Actually, I'm european and I'm very disappointed with players like Navarro, Garbajosa or Fran, cause they prefer to settle in the simple road instead of proving their abilities in a bigger stage.
This problem could be solved with your proposition, when a player declare himself elegible, he must go in the NBA and close his international contract immediately (unless is the team to ask him to wait some time to improve his game)
But until this isn't a rule, is responsability of the team to check the players desire better.
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quote:Originally posted by CRAZY SERB:quote:Originally posted by Mr Charisma:quote:Originally posted by CRAZY SERB:VC and darko make $82.8mill combined while lewis gets $118mill. for that much money he'd have to average almost a triple double (25-10-8) to get a better grade
I can't agree with this logic. You can't add up the production from 2 players and compare them to the production from 1 player.
That's like trying to compare the stats of a player that plays 40 minutes a game to a player that plays 20 minutes a game, and then criticizing the player that only playes 20 minutes for not putting up the same type of numbers as the 40 minute player.
but i've never compared darko's and VC's stats combined to rashard's. i just compared their salaries.
Couldn't agree either, a fair comparision should be between the salaries they earn every year, not the total amount of the lenght of the contract.
VC made 13,3m this year, Lewis 14,8m.
Not a big difference, and I strongly prefer to have a guy like Rashard in this Orlando team, instead of Vince Carter.
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Couldn't agree more with this solution.
quote:Originally posted by barnettej:I just think the NBA, should let the international players know that if they want to enter the draft, they have to be free of any basketball contracts. And must play the length of their rookie contract.
I believe that's only a part of the truth.
Sure, a lot of int. players couldn't find playing time and go back to their country for that reason, but don't forget that there are also a lot of All-Star between them, and good contributors too.
For example, Navarro had a good first year in Memphis, he almost broke the record for threes made by a rookie, there was interest from Memphis and other teams to sign him, but he's back in Barcelona after only one year.
Job security, culture, language (and don't forget wifes and girlfriends) are huge factors for them to come back.
And if you include that the Euro is very strong now against the Dollar... you have the complete picture.
quote:Originally posted by cunningstunt:another reason why the internationsl don't come here is that they're a big fish in a small market, they're treated like an all star over there for a sub par game, and european women are hot... no joke. then they'd have to come here, warm a bench, no one has a clue who they are, just some tall guy in the corner on the bench.
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Yeah, I know that, for that reason I'm trying to convince people to forget about him...
I don't know a lot about the college players on the draft, but I see a lot of European prospects and good players here, and Fran isn't in that list.
This doesn't mean that the Magic don't have to draft European players anymore, only assuring that they want to come before drafting them...
quote:Just keep watching the threads that talk about roster changes, new lineups, etc., and you will continue to see posters continue to list Fran as being on our roster, or potentially being on the roster.
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Don't worry about it, really, I live in Spain, see him playing a lot of times and I can assure you all that is not even a good player in Europe, so you can imagine the impact he would have in NBA.
The better things for the Magic management and fans would be forget about him, and stop talking about it.
Anyway, I would be very happy to lose his rights for a Extra Crispy one...
Blazers showing everyone the way!
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Let me disagree with this one...
This is not the same team that give away Gasol for nothing?
Now, they already have a ton of PG, they desperately need a big, and they trade away Love for another PG... not only that, they lose also Mike Miller in the process.
Otis is not Pritchard, but luckily enough is not Wallace either!!
Maybe we could use the Memphis situation for trading JJ (they could need him now that they trade away Miller) for one of their PG (Conley, Crittenton, Lowry)