Luke_FfS
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Jannero Pargo is unrestricted too.
I like him, I saw him playing a lot in the playoffs last year, and maybe he could be a good fit here (6'1", good defender, a high energy guy with a good jump shot)
His last salary was 1.8m.
Considering that one of NO problems is deep on the bench, and their worst position on the starting 5 is SG, why not making a swap with JJ or Bogans.
I know that is probably a long shot, but maybe it's another possibility to add on the list.
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quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:If you look at it from the perspective of other teams, trading Bogans makes more sense simply because he was actually in our rotation last year and might have SOME sort of trade value, he had his nice moments last season where Redick could barely crack the rotation hardly ever, pretty much garbage time and the end of the season.
Bogans and what he bringsis more of a known quality in the NBA I would imagine, therefore easier to trade? I don't know how much either guy makes per season off the top of my head, having a tradeable contract makes a difference too.
Bogans had an expiring contract too, that could be useful.
Skywise, would you still try to keep Evans as a backup and trading JJ and Bogans?
My answer is YES.
And at this point, I would trade them for a PG, Pietrus is a good rebounder, and I believe we can keep Lewis at PF with good results.
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On another note, I really like Westbrook game right now.
Gortat is putting a big effort, but he's overplaying a little bit (please Ewing say him to breathe and calm down...)
Dante and Galante are really hilarious.
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I'm looking for Lee too, but not in a statistical mode, it's not important right now how many shoot takes, but his skill set.
For long stretches, I try to forget the ballgame and follow only him on the court, on both sides of the court.
On offense, I like the fact that he's always looking for the better solution, and he didn't matter to make an extra pass instead of a shoot if his teammate is in a better position (very good court vision)
I also like that when he's on the three point line, with the defender coming at him, he put the ball on the floor and take a two (better % shoot).
His tecnique on the shoot is very good, and he release very well.
Without the ball, he's moving in the spaces quite well, but I would like him to be more agressive.
On defense, he's quite smart too, he follows well the attacker, he sometimes tries to anticipate him (but without taking big risks).
He could do a better job helping his teammates, and near Durant he looks very small, but I think Durant is 6'8".
Obviously, this is Summer League, a long way to go for him, but I like the player right now.
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quote:Originally posted by BRich:this team is awful...lol
Yeah, but the ex-Seattle team is also pretty good for a summer league event...
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quote:Originally posted by CaliMagicFan:Man, according to that thread, he's exactly what we need. A big, physical 2 guard who's a good defender and spot up shooter, and a slasher who can take it to the basket. We should sign that guy!
"according to that thread?"
You didn't see him playing with a Magic uniform last year?
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quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:Amen with most of that although I think Pietrus would be an upgrade over Evans. It just makes me sick that we could lose Mo Evans and be stuck with Keith Bogans and J.J. Redick just because it would be the easier thing for Otis to do.
If Maggette and Pietrus both fell through my next option would be bring Evans back, bring Dooling back, and then for the love of God upgrade at PF. Whether that's with whatever we have left with the MLE, the minimum, or trading Bogans, Redick, maybe Augustine? I doubt Augie has much value.
Anyway, I think Tony Battie helps much more than anyone on this forum seems to give him credit for, but he's just getting too old to be the answer, especially in the long term. He's a band aid for the next year and maybe the year after but something's gotta be done as far as getting Dwight help... and real big man help, not Brian Cook big man help.
You could check in other threads that I'm a Pietrus fan too, and I'm quite sure that Maggette is not a good fit for our team (overall, I prefer Magg, but this team need defense, rebounds and tough guys)
But I'm not going to cry if they didn't sign for us.
My point is: we all love to think big, and sign the better players on the market, but:
1) Often this is not the way to win a ring.
2) There are 30 teams in the league, a lot of them pursuing the same free agents.
So, why not sign players that already know our system and play well in it, and after that look at what we really need?
My first priority right now is a good and reliable PG.
And I agree with you about Battie, the problem with him is that is value is not showed on the stats tab, he's one of few players in our team doing things that don't count on Hollinger standings, but that really make a team win.
Yes, he's getting (a little) older and he cames off a big injury, but McDyess and P.J. Brown are older than him, and look at how they contribute to their team in playoffs.
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Few thoughts after reading the Rockets forum:
1) Probably all the forums of the 30 NBA teams are talking about the same names (Pietrus, Maggette, etc)
2) It's curious to see that we always like more and wonder about the player that play on another teams.
3) We forget how well he played for us last season. For only 2m., he really make a great impact for our team, and he gain the starter position very fast.
I wouldn't mind to have him back.
I know, we already have a lot of players in that position, but I prefer to have him and trade Bogans and/or JJ.
I could even see him as a starter, waiting for Lee to be ready, if we made other moves in the market to add deep t oour rotation, like signing a taller, defensive minded PG and another big.
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quote:Originally posted by Baller4Life031:It's so funny to see how people on these forums react to things. So impatient.
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But instead, as most Magic fans are..they act on impulse and can't seem to let things fan out.
This is just like every other situation on these forums, like Maggette for instance..
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No Otis isn't the best GM, but he is our GM and he isn't trying to worsen the Magic. He is trying to bring a championship to Orlando.
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The staff isn't going to make homerun plays on draft night like everyone was eager for them to do, thats not who they are and everyone of you know that. But they are *slowly* but surely doing whats right, making a solid basketball team for years to come.
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Regardless of anything the organization does (besides let Dwight go, because I would just jump off a building).
you will always be an Orlando Magic fan.
This is by far the best post I've ever read here.
I totally agree, and especially like the sentences reported above.
THANK YOU!
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Very good article on the matter.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/080703
I feel very bad for the fans in Seattle too, and I can't stop thinking that this same thing could have happened in Orlando without the new arena approval.
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:Well I hope he makes a decision either way soon so we can move on to whatever other targets we have in mind.
I hope we already start to move on.
It's pretty clear that all this "Come Home" theory was inconsistent.
When a player really want to move fast, he does it.... look at Baron Davis!
I was not sold with him being a good fit in this team before 1st July, and now I'm sure that is better to forget about him.
Maggette is playing with the market, with this "money is not so important, I want a ring" story, he draws the interest of big teams like S.A. and Boston... only trying to increase his value for a bigger contract.
And if finally he can't find money, he'll sign with the team with more possibilities to win it all.
A old movie that we already see a lot of times... but the Magic hadn't the time to wait the end of this movie.
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quote:Originally posted by murphy13:i know this is kinda far fetched...but hear me out:
lets say that maggette would end up accepting the MLE offer. what if otis calls up LAC before they renounce maggette and says: hey, we are getting maggs for the MLE. we are prepared to offer you two small, short contracts (bogans/cook, jj) and a future #1 pick for the rights to maggette. it would provide favorable contracts for financial purposes, a decent sg prospect, and a future first round pick to do with as they please.
then, we offer the full MLE to pietrus. we get BOTH of them. keep jameer, and have the backcourt trifecta of jameer, pietrus, and maggette, and just keep rotating those three around the backcourt...we would be set for years! then, we trade turk for a pf like haslem, collison or wilcox. that player along with gortat, and battie would provide enough depth in the 4 and 5 to spell dwight for 8-12mpg.
Two big problems here:
1) If LA is going after Davis, that is likely right now, they can't afford any additional contract on their roster.
2) Pietrus want to be a starter, he's not going to sign any contract to sit on the bench another time.
A third problem could be: what we are going to do with Lee if we have both Maggette and Pietrus?
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quote:Originally posted by The Solution:quote:Originally posted by lp1230:I seriously don't understand why Otis is wasting time on Maggette, he is a great player,but I seriously dont see him settling for the MLE. I don't see why they are not targeting pietrus. The guy wants to do all the dirty work. thats exactly what we need at sg. I just don't get otis. simple as that
Makes for a good debate doesn't it. Keep in mind that Pietrus has several places to visit.
Haven't heard about Pietrus' desires. Have heard what Corey wants.
Problem solved:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/07/pietrus-camp-ex.html
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quote:Originally posted by Sinister_Grin:For all you people saying we shouldn't trade Hedo, where do you think he will be playing after the season is over? I doubt it will be for us. I don't see Otis being able to pay him the 4 or 5 million more he will be demanding so why not try get something for him while we can?
I'm worried too, but I would wait until the deadline in February.
I mean, try to play Lewis at PF for another stint, if we still improve following this path, try to keep Hedo.
If not, trade Hedo for a classic PF.
Coming february, the market on PF position could be better (right now is quite poor)
And we would have more time for trying to sign him to a fair extension if we couldn't find any good trade.
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quote:Originally posted by star_phenom35:LOL! is it really that difficult to figure out this thing? This is the exact thing that happened with us and Seattle last year in the pursuit or Rashard Lewis. Do you really think that Seattle would trade Lewis away for a draft pick and a trade exception? =S...They only did it because Lewis was UNRESTRICTED, he wanted nothing to do with Seattle annd wanted to be in Orlando, so they had no choice but to get what they could from us because he would would for nothing.
Same thing with Maggette. He doesn't want to be in L.A anymore, he wants to come home. It's just a matter of the Magic management being willing to spend the money on Maggette to get him here. Maggette is like Lewis, UNRESTRICTED, meaning that he can walk for nothing! I'm sure the Clipps would gladly take something off of our hands for him regardless of what it is IF Maggette insists on coming here and IF the Magic management is willing to spend to makeit happen.
If you're right, I really hope we'll not overpay for him as with Rashard last year.
This would stuck our roster for years to come...
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quote:Originally posted by The Solution:quote:Originally posted by Luke_FfS:we tend to forget that there are 30 teams on the league, and all those names are on the mouth of probably 75% of those teams.
If you are playing in Orlando Florida with a very young Dwight Howard can be sweet. (Especially if your family already lives here)
I am very upbeat. Good news is coming soon. Let's not forget that Dwight Howard can opt out of his 5th year and can be a free agent. We are going to get it done this year!!
I will believe that he'll accept a paycut in order to return home only when we'll have the sign on the end of the contract.
But until now, reality is that all this hope started with a article on the Sentinel reporting thoughts of undisclosed friends of him, followed by another "news" declaring that the Magic are not pursuing him.
Not enough to make me upbeat right now...
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I know we all have great expectations, but I believe that nothing is imminent on the Magic way.
It's not like last year, when a lot of cap space make us very agressive on the market.
I read a lot of good names for the team in all the threads, but unfortunately this is not a NBA managerial videogame, and we tend to forget that there are 30 teams on the league, and all those names are on the mouth of probably 75% of those teams.
We also easily forget that for making a trade you have to give up something with value for the other team, and this is not always the case in the most of the offers I read about (not counting the ones that couldn't work under NBA rules)
So, I would be very surprised if we make a big move in the next few days.
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quote:Originally posted by SmackDaddy:Conflicting reports from the Sentinel. Go figure.
Only rumors right now...
In the same article, they suggest that the Magic would likely split the MLE to land two players.
If this is true, they could put Pietrus out of this list...
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quote:Originally posted by SmackDaddy:quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:quote:Originally posted by SmackDaddy:I'd still prefer that Pietrus was the SG that landed in an Orlando Magic lineup.
I'm struggling with this because of that very reason. Part of me likes the idea of adding a 20pt per game scorer and another part of me doesn't want more offense without a serious upgrade in defense.
It's pretty simple really. If we were somehow able to land Maggette, then I beleive management would be open to trading Hedo. You just can't deal Hedo without having another bonafide scorer. And if they were looking to move Hedo, I bet we could easily land Haslem, Collison, Lee, or any other rebounding, defensive-minded PF we wanted.
But with our lineup, as it is constructed currently, Pietrus is a much, much better fit at the SG.
I'm 100% with you.
Altough Maggette could be considered a steal if he really sign with us for the MLE (and I won't believe that until this is not only a rumor coming by some friend of him...) I would take Pietrus anyway.
On the offensive end, there wouldn't be enough shots for all with Corey on the team:
1) Last year, a lot of times we already forget to feed DH, and you don't want to have your franchise player unhappy.
2) Lewis was the third option, who really want to have a max player as a fourth offensive option next year?
On defense, we need something better than him, cause we already have a bad team defense, and remember that DEFENSE win championship, offense only win awards.
On the other side, I love Pietrus defense, he's a pretty good rebounder too, he can shoot the three and could penetrate, but he didn't need the ball on his hands all the time.
Perfect fit on our team assuming that we mantain Lewis as PF (that is pretty probable after draft night)
The only aspect of his game that really worry me is FT shooting, but I could live with that.
But right now, all that trades and signs are only dreams and speculation, we really haven't any true indication that either Pietrus or Maggette or anyone else would come to our team.
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quote:Originally posted by jack daniel 999:NJ or Miami would be a good fit for Carlos if he goes anywhere which it looks like he will.
I really hope that Carlos didn't sign with Miami.
Could you imagine what would happen in all the Magic's forums if Arroyo put big numbers in a game against Jameer with a Heat jersey???
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quote:Originally posted by Kberto:Yeah Pat Riley knows that too. That's why he wont do it.
The only way Riley would give up Haslem to us is if he could completely rip us off in a lopsided deal.
Agree.
Right now is just a summer dream...
The only way I could imagine Haslem in a Magic uniform is if Miami trade him to another team, and then we go after him.
But i'm not sure this is possible under NBA rules.
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quote:Originally posted by Tough Break There:quote:I would love to see Howard skip Olympics and training onli on FT shooting, but I'm pretty sure he has a strong will to go anyway.
Am I the only one who thinks this Team USA team is one with legacy written all over it, and perhaps, more important than the Magic itself? I mean, I've been a Magic fan since the 80's, but Dwight's participation in Team USA to me is as important as anything else he'll ever do in his career.
And is there any bigger indicator that we need more beef inside then Dwight breaking his Sternum going against the entire Piston front-line?
I can understand your point, but I'm not a fan of USA Team at all, only of the Orlando Magic.
I know this could sound egoistic, but is my point of view right now.
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Am I the only one thinking that the Brand contract is dangerous?
I mean, he's coming off a very bad injury, he's 29 and will be 34 at the end of the contract, with no assurance at all about his health and his capacity to repeat the production he had before.
Everyone was shocked at him opting out 'cause was expected to play one year to increase his value.
I believe that he has sold himself very well, but fot me this is a high risk move for Philly.