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On 2/25/2019 at 8:07 PM, Magicfan1987 said:AG is a SUPER hard worker who has already exceeded what many thought his floor would be. He loves the game of basketball and his IQ is getting better and better. Cant be a victim of the moment with the late game Chicago mishap.
It's hard to call it being a victim of the moment when it's how he's been since he got into the league. I said plenty of nice things about him, no need to try to defend the indefensible. He has not exceeded the floor of the 4th pick of that draft, if he's exceeded your idea of his floor then your expectations were too low.
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He doesn't show finesse with the ball and his overall handles limit his utility in that manner. His decision making with the ball leaves a bit to be desired as well. He's still an athlete that plays basketball. It can still change and fortunately he's a team player and is willing to fit in the cracks of whatever lineup exists. Then again he's getting paid like a #2/3 so why wouldn't he be content with the status quo?
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7 hours ago, ?4thewin said:We've already beat good teams. We have a 19-16 record in conference. We've beaten every Eastern conference team. What's another win against Toronto really going to prove?
We just need to get into the playoffs. If that comes by beating the great teams coming up, cool. If it comes by beating the bad teams, cool. It doesn't matter. We don't get extra points because we've won the season series against Boston or if we win the season series against Toronto.
Beating a likely playoff opponent post ASB is far better barometer of where we are and where we can be than beating Chicago at the same time or Toronto in December. I hope you can see that.
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If the goal is to make playoffs as a sub .500 team and get our stuff pushed in by Milwaukee or Toronto then this game is meaningless. From a momentum perspective this game forces us to pick up a win from the likely loss category of games left.
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AG is not a smart basketball player.
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I personally don't think 38 wins gets us into the playoffs, I think there'll be one sub .500 team and they'll probably have 40 wins. That said I think the 6 seed is a legitimate possibility seeing as we are only 3 games back of it. I think Brooklyn will stay just above 500 (42-40) and either Charlotte or Detroit will end strong at around 40 wins. Call me a homer but looking at our schedule I think we can finish 16-7 and end up 43-39 for the 6 seed.
In this scenario obviously it would be great if Indiana could hold onto #3 but with Oladipo gone that isn't going to happen. It would be against Philly or Boston and both of those would be tough but I think we'd get a game or two and consider it a win going into next season. I think Toronto and Milwaukee would clean our clocks assuming everyone is healthy.
Add: I see 12 likely wins on the schedule and 4 tossups.
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4 hours ago, Magicman28 said:Who does Fultz remind everyone of? Can’t really put a finger on it. Deceptively explosive. Not Uber quick but quick. Good defensive instincts. Good vision. Slasher. I dunno.
D'Angelo Russell
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3 hours ago, ?4thewin said:I think almost 4 years is enough time to know that Payton wasn't worth it.
What's 'it'?
3 hours ago, ?4thewin said:I think we'll know by February 2021 if Fultz is worth betting on long term.
Lol no, of course you would think that. The only things we'll know by then is if he's a generational superstar point guard or if he's out of the league.
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27 minutes ago, ML6 said:I would say that his passing, playmaking, and overall feel (not forcing) have taken major steps forward this season.
His passing has improved a little (but I wouldn't call it playmaking because his handles are below average) and I do like that he has stabilized his 3 point shooting some the last couple years. The stats concur that its a net neutral thing with him where he doesn't keep up previous improvements while other things improve. He's a good player and I like how it seems he's willing to adapt to others on the floor to win. I think Isaac is going to really push him relatively soon. Obviously the key for him is to become a dangerous 3 point shooter.
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4 hours ago, Jay Magic said:I'm not taking anything away from the point of those tweets, they are very telling. That said I don't see much different in Gordon at this point. He's been pretty consistent the past few seasons. He's obviously a part of what we have going and I'm glad to have him, I just think his upside is becoming more defined now.
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If we're going to be in the mid to possibly late teens I would just go with best available player irrespective of position and hope we hit on him.
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I'm a little late to the game but I had to come express my joy for having a pg to develop again! I am not concerned about how things went down in Philly for him in the least bit, as far as I'm concerned he's a rookie with all the potential in the world. I just hope that he gets the time needed to learn the position unlike our last pg; I'm not saying that they are similar in any way, regardless of the prospect it takes 3 years minimum in this league to adjust to being a good point guard. I'm sure he'll show flashes but expectations should be tempered as it relates to consistency and standing for the next couple years.
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Wall would have to change his game in order to be mutually successful here. The risk with him is high.
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We have tiny stew?
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EF is treating my fanduel nicely tonight.
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Anything but a point guard, we need a developed one through FA or trade.
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7 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said:Where is the blocking charge on AG's drive?
He's been crying too much to the refs, dude needs to chill.
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7 hours ago, Soul Bro said:You have a weird dislike of AG. Is he the main problem with this team? (And for the record, I loved Harris and hated trading him).
I like him, I just don't like his contract and his skill:athleticism ratio. The main problem of this team is a lack of talent depth.
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8 hours ago, ?4thewin said:Every so often you start with the Gordon defense stuff and every time I provide considerable evidence to prove you wrong and every time you shrug your shoulders and fail to learn anything
The same for you. Ultimately you just pick what you want to believe. No one is saying he's bad at defense, you're just trying too hard to prove a point that doesn't exist.
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4 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:Harris couldn't defend like Gordon
Gordon lacks the offensive consistency that Harris had, they're pretty similar with different nuances. Gordon's defense is stuff of legend, but that's a different topic.
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1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:We're not going to be able to stop elite shooting point guards. That's not good but there's not a ton of Lillard types.
Like you said good thing there aren't many of them.
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AG is evolving into an expensive Tobias Harris.
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You won't have to wait that long, we'll know what we have by mid December.
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It looks like the NBA is quickly circling back to the reign of the big man, it's been happening for a few years but it looks like it's really setting in this season.
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They play like they're young and inexperienced.