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quote: Originally posted by Skywise316: quote: Originally posted by nttnybuc: quote: Originally posted by otis_smith: NO is in need of a wing scorer (as Wright did not pan out). Paul George is a Danny Granger clone, I'm not saying he is the next Granger, but has loads of upside. I think, with this trade, NO is a better team even with a healthy Paul. Plus they have multiple first round picks from ORL and IND coming their way. PG: Collison (ford) SG: VC (thornton) SF: George (peja/wright) PF: West (songaila) C: Gortat (FA?) Peja would prob start, but George would eat up more minutes as the season goes on. No need to get into why ORL or IND would do this deal. I think its obvious for both of these teams. I think in 761 pages, this is the most realistic trade for all teams involved that I've seen yet (the one on pg. 760). I know Indiana's high on Paul George, but not high enough to pass on Jameer Nelson I wouldn't think. Get on the phone, Otiz~! I had thought about this one too, doubt we get george and a 1st from indy tho, but if we can get george then it makes total sense for NO since sf and c are the only positions they dont have established talent or good young developing talent currently on the roster.

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quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by Magic2385: Just my $0.02 on the Paul situation. If Paul really wants to come to Orlando, his agent/camp could let other teams know that Chris will opt out if he goes to that team. Basically a team Chris doesn't want to be at will dismantle their young core to get him and then have Paul walk after two years. This then leaves said team up ****s creek IMO and would hopefully scare them away giving the Magic that much more of an advantage. we can also get him extended as part of the trade too. I don't know if that happens though. i thought u couldnt extend a contract until one year before they can become a FA. that being said if we got cp3 then im pretty sure both him and howard would extend both their contracts next summer

yay! another paul thread(im not being sarcastic). if its like realgm tells it, knicks/lakers/magic then we get him bc they aint got **** for assets

find a giant fish, and **** his brains out!

quote: Originally posted by TreyTime: quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory: quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by SmackDaddy: FYI, the Wizards have two first round picks next year - their pick and CLE's pick. Anybody think CLE will be a playoff team without Lebron? 2011 picks are practically worthless outside of the top 5. Should be worse depth wise than this past one. I'm sure we'll get a few surprise guys who's stock shoots up but 2012 is where its at. The only two guys who'd be of any worth to us from the 2011 draft would be jan vessely and harrison barnes Perry Jones, Brandan Knight, Kyler Singler, Kemba Walker, Elias Harris. Yeah, it's a weak draft though. LOL Singler in the NBA if we could take the higher of their two picks(one will def be in the top ten) and either select or move up to get perry i would be ecstatic.

Now Miami gets a future lotto pick for Beasly?!?! What else can go right for them today?

Minny isn't really helpin Miami, they will now pay the big 3 more and have to fill another roster spot with a scrub.

Yea Dwight is gonna leave and go to okc bc that will be the only chance he has to win titles. As for harington could we be gettin him bc were on the verge to tradin Lewis for arenas? It would be extremely redundant otherwise

if we do get paul/ok4/posey for vc, nelson, tpe (maybe pick) then would we be better suited saving our remaining assets and making a run at melo at the trade deadline? he's gonna leave regaurdless, we would have a package of gortat/anderson/redick(@roughly 4 mill/yr)/peaches/bass/whoever we sign with MLE/picks to deal with, were in the eastern conference, i mean why not Paul anyone melo shard dwight 5 straight championships...

paul has an exercisable option on where to be traded?! this would be a huge advatnage

yea another thing to worry about is if these teams w/$ strike out in FA, then cant they just take back these contracts, ship out a pick or two and pick up paul? if this trade was on the table then otis has to pull the trigger, soon!

i got it all figured out what otis is doin. he already has agreed to trade vc, nelson for paul, ok4 but is keeping it quiet. then hes gonna trade a resigned jj(4 mil/yr), and gortat for a resigned boozer (11 mil/yr). resign barnes, then get foye/watson(combo guard) for most of the mle, signing a vet sg with the remaining portion. leaving us with paul, foye peaches, foye/vet lewis, barnes, robinson boozer, ok4, anderson d12, ok4, orton roughly 87 in payroll but titles rollin in nonstop. otis is the man!

finally gettin in on this. if bosh goes houston, lebron goes clips, then gimme watson and call it bc we got the east

speakin of which, how many seats will the new amway have? thought the increase in seats was supposed to bring in extra revenue either way this makes little difference to me since i cant make it down for many games but id be pissed if i was a season ticket holder, that essentially adds 400 dollars to the cost

collison for anderson. posey for TPE

the only thing that worries me about this is if we trade vince, then that means boozer is gettin a max contract...

what about gortat, 29 to minny for 16, 23 we could get henry/george at 16(one of them will fall) and bledsoe/white/maybe even williams at 23. fill in 2 backup spots now, with the potential for them to be the starters down the road. not to mention we shed salary as well

quote: Originally posted by TheRevTy:Want a rotation? Jameer/CJ Watson/Gil (yep, they'll still push HARD for this) Gilbert/JJ (if they can keep him) Rashard/Wes Johnson Amare/Bass Dwight/Amare/Bass Granted, this takes EVERYTHING going perfectly, but that is all definitely possible no way wed get gil and watson with the MLE. its one or the other, maybe just draft a pg with 29 instead. do u have vince goin to pheonix in this scenario?

is there anyway that gortat lands us a top 10 pick? must be him and our pick at the least gotta think if were trading up for a wing then george or henry are the targets. both athletic, big, shooters. would love bledsoe too

i like redick too but im afraid of our situation with him. he'll be 26 at the start of next season and i could see at 29 or so, his athleticism dropping back down under an effective level. so i dont want to sign him for six years at 5/yr. i think itll be alot like gortat last year where someone offers more than we wanna pay but we match so as to keep an asset. really think both r gone in a trade this summer

gay would be awesome. hes my 3rd favorite fa for us begind lbj(0% chance at) and bosh(cant wait for that thread). gay is young, athletic, can put the ball in the hoop. btw thought we couldnt trade our pick this year bc that would be two years straight, and theres a rule against that(which im glad about bc last years draft was boring as sh..)

if we double perkins one more time, imma go kick svg in the nuts. weve been doin that all series, he always makes the right pass and they end up with an open shot. perkins is not bill russell!!!

quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by apexturbo: quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by Ramsde68: quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by Ramsde68:He would be doing better here but I say even if Carter turned out to absolutely sucks it is still a smart decision to let Hedo walk (even though it was really Hedo's choice), mainly because of Hedo's contract. Carter we will have only for two years and the last of which he could be used as an expiring contract. Where as Hedo would have been here 4-5 years as his career just slid down hill. thats basically where all of us "hedo haters" were coming from when we didn't want him resigned. If you follow the history of basketball, players peak for a couple years and then drop production significantly all the time. Resigning hedo would have left us hamstrung with his contract for the next few years. Years he wouldn't have been able to produce anything. I loved Hedo. And if he would have been willing to stay here for 2/3 of what he was asking for then I would have cringed then grudgingly have said yes. But the price the raptors paid was just far too much and Otis made the right move. i would have rather had him for a max deal for two years than even 6 million over 5. It doesn't help when years 3,4, and 5 he hurts us by being on the court. So here is the question. Are we seeing the decline of Lewis? yes. but its not a big deal because all he has to do is hit big threes in the playoffs. His contract has one more year before he becomes a monster expiring. na lewis has 3 more years after this

i think they meant minny could trade jefferson and rubio to get a max FA. no way they land anyone otherwise. i really like the idea of trading with okc tho. the draft picks would make it a very slight possibility of us landing bosh or gay. and if not we could still use some young talent to develop at pretty much every position except pf. and roster spots? well have 4 maybe 5 (barnes/po) open after the season and maybe some roadblocks in resigning them (redick, barnes - money, white chocolate might re -retire) id go; pg - Bradley(Texas), Walker (UConn), Bledsoe(UK) sg - Anderson (OKSt), Williams (Memphis), Jones (SFLA) C - aldrich (KU, doubtful), Sanders (VCU), Udoh (Baylor) maybe even, sf - george(fresno), babbit(nev)