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quote: Originally posted by gobucsmagic: quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma:To get the TE is a good thing. As others have stated, to insist on getting more was risking getting nothing at all. Hollinger acts like the Magic HAD to be involved in the deal. It obviously helped, but the other teams could have still worked out their other plans and left the Magic out completely. The only possible negative impact I see is that they now can be a player in going after Barnes. If Otis was interested in him, the asking price might have just gone up. Personally, I'm not going to lose any sleep over whether or not Matt Barnes is on the Magic roster. Regardless, we can get a player a whole lot better than Barnes or Bass with $8M when the teams that want to play in next years FA game have to dump more salary now that the salary cap for next year has been reduced so significantly. That's not exactly true. We are the only team that could actually sign and trade Hedo to Toronto, so they had to involve us to get the deal done. A future pick would have been ideal but the trade exeption is still a really nice insurance policy in case we need to make a deal down the road. besides, is anyone really that afraid of Toronto? We may have let them off the hook a bit, but we also added tremendous trade flexibility by participating in the deal. Toronto just F'd up by paying Hedo 10 mill for the next 5 years... I'm not afraid of them. They have the softest front line in the league, and absolutely nobody that can defend D12. They will play Suns ball next year and give up 115 ppg. I see them as a 6 seed or lower.

quote: Originally posted by Catman:The Magic may hang on to the TE and have it in case of injury. Great move by Otis. I am one of the few that has defended Otis on this board when many have attacked him for trivial matters..such as not signing Crittenton last year..lol. I never see any posts about that guy anymore..kind of wild how that works. From what I am hearing, it sounds like Bass for 3.5-4 and then hopefully Ratliff and Barnes. Plus I would like to see us add Kasib and Richard from the Summer League. Our team will be BETTER then last years. I believe that Vince will bring more to the table then Hedo did. We have 3 4th quarter guys..Jameer is the one everyone forgets about, but he has always made huge shots. Vince is obviously the 1st option..and then we have Mr. Lewis who basically won us some playoff games with his nasty clutch shooting. Once again, Otis has done great work so far. Agree 100%

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1:I think after they fill out their roster, Colangelo beat Otis this summer. That team will be serious with the right pieces. Nah. They will be a playoff team but they went from soft to supersoft with Hedo replacing Marion. Their starting 5 will score a ton of points, but they are no where near as complete and talented as ours is, especially if we get Bass. Also, they don't have anybody close to Pietrus coming off their bench.

quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:you know, this actually sucks...We helped the Raps sign Hedo, add depth via Dallas players and keep their MLE and LLE, this makes them players in the same MLE talent race we're involved in...Watch Toronto pickup Bass and whomever else you wanted tomorrow... I don't think Toronto is going to add that much salary. They just gave Bargnani an extension, signed Hedo to a fat contract, and took on some dallas players for the coming year. They were just looking to add some cheap depth.

Denton will be missed. All the other stuff sounds great. I think Barnes fits the team well and can backup up two positions and start if needed. I hope Otis doesn't mess the Bass situation up. Also, Ratliff would be perfect as the backup center. He can defend the paint and rebound effectively for 10-12 min.

quote: Originally posted by MagicFanBen:How about this trade...it will put us way in to the luxury tax, but the heck with it. The Magic trade JJ Redick, rights to Franny and the trade exception to the Utah Jazz for Carlos Boozer You can't package the TPE with other players. It has to be a straight up deal. Also, the other guys are right, Boozer makes too much money for the TPE that we will get for Hedo. I believe Boozer is due something like 12.7 mil next year, and we are prob looking at a 10.5 mill TPE.

I wonder if we are allowed to split the TPE. Say we 4-5 million of it to pick up Bass and then the rest some other time, or do we have to use it all at once.

ESPN says that they don't know all the details yet. Wow this could be huge! Otis obviously got the green light to pick up another big salary or else there would be no point to this trade for us. We would only be helping Toronto and Hedo out.

quote: Originally posted by You're Fat, Pat!:There is no way the exception is $10mil. Geeze people. For example, the Keyon Dooling TE was only $3.3mil. I've never heard of a $10mil TE. I'm pretty sure Denver got one in the Camby deal last year.

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C:can someone please explain to me the concept of a trade exemption? seriously. I think a TPE allows a team to trade for a player without having to give anything up in order to match salaries. With a 10 mill+ exemption we can trade for someone like Boozer without giving up any players. So if the front office is serious about paying for a champion then this could be huge.

nice!, I want details.

I think Powell and Hendrix deserve a chance in training camp. Hendrix prob has the best shot at making the team though.

I would take Kasib Powell over Richardson, and I hope Hendrix is kept.

Addi is it cool if I take this one? These Sigs are awesome.

quote: Originally posted by Do Work Stan .... BOOYAAKASHAA:I hate to see the catfish leave town however I would not trust signing him to a 5 year deal. I think Turk has a less than average work ethic and as he gets a little bit older I think this will take more of a toll on his game and his production. Lets not forget that Turk was missing quite a few games the year before last for tick tack injuries and some unknown illness that would reappear after a long night out on the town (hangover). No but seriously, I question Turks commitment to the game and although he is and has been a great player for Orlando I really think once he cashes in on the big pay day there is a chance he could begin to shut it down. Exactly why it was such a good move to get VC and not be forced to pay Hedo 10 mill plus for the next 5 years.