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    quote:
    Originally posted by ball junkie:

     

    First off, if you haven't figured it out already I don't go along with the board just because the majority of it thinks one way. I learned a long time ago to listen to people's opinion but them form your conclusions with your "own" brain.

     

    I'm also tired of repeating the same things cause I honestly don't enjoy typing that much.

     

     

    i think 2972 posts say differently about your not liking to type!!! lol

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    ok junkie man i didnt get a chace to meet you at the get together and i didnt get to meet you at the playoff game so i dont really know your personality, but it seems to me that if you think this thru all the magic media has to do is say that they were promoting brian hill, brian knew about it but he could not say anything, he was also helping out with the possible coaches and interviewing with them, then just blame the media for spinning it into a bad thing when "brian really wanted a management position with us so we accomadated his wishes", of course they'll play the PR card and say that since he is an important part of this community there wasn't any doubt as to him "fullfilling his contractual obligations"

     

    He also recommended our new coach sam vincent and has his full support.

     

    With tha type of spin it will nullify any negative opinion produced over the last two weeks...

     

    I rarely respon to one of your threads junkie because i have to type so darn much when i do!!!

     

     

    lol

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    Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

    I don't know if any of you guys saw the thing on Nightline, but they held a debate between "The Way of the Master" and "The Rational Response squad" on whether or not God exists.

     

    Having just watched the video, I can say that no matter where your opinions are on that difficult subject, I think we can all agree:

     

    Anyone on this board could've done a better job of arguing their respective side than the clowns they had doing it on this show.

     

    You have a link?? i've never seen it

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    man that doesnt matter even though what they post says that... you have to divide the total percentage by how many tries for the average possibilty they have in the draft. .. If you can find another website that explains why you add up each percentage and that would give you an overall chance of 42 percent to get a top 3 spot then i will believe they are wrong...

     

    If you add up everyones chance on that board there is 300%!!!! how can that be so what they are saying is that they have a 42.34% chance out of 300%!!! that doesnt make sense...

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    Originally posted by Nathan Rule:

    Iactually would rather get this discussion back to christianity then the differing beleiefs between a christian and a JW

     

    Yeah thats why i said this..

     

    For the record i worked with about 8 JW's in my 6 years at my last company and even though we agree to disagree, they are some of my best friends and a gret boss to work for, and i would move back and work with athem any time if my family didnt live in orlando.

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    Originally posted by Hutchence:

    ummm, not exactly

     

    In 1876 the Bible student Charles Taze Russell contributed the article "Gentile Times: When Do They End?" to the Bible Examiner, published in Brooklyn, New York, which said on page 27 of its October issue, "The seven times will end in A.D. 1914." The Gentile Times is the period referred to in another Bible translation as "the appointed times of the nations." (Luke 21:24) Not all that was expected to happen in 1914 did happen, but it did mark the end of the Gentile Times and was a year of special significance. Many historians and commentators agree that 1914 was a turning point in human history. The following quotations illustrate this:

     

    "The last completely 'normal' year in history was 1913, the year before World War I began."

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    Originally posted by Hutchence:

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    Originally posted by Nathan Rule:

    "I would be very careful believing anything about anyone creating a "new religion" in the last 100 years including scientology, jehovah witness & mormans.... let alone the last 20 years (neale donald).

     

    Jehovah's Witnesses have been around for much longer than most think.

     

     

    Yeah hutch in cali my old boss of 6 years was a JW... just from memeory i think it was the 1880'c charles Taze Russell founded them. He was a 7-day adventist but didnt like there doctrine of hell... he was there leader unitl about 1920 when he passed away. Also he said that christs return was going to happen in 1914 and it didnt so they said 1925 and it didnt then 1975 and after that one now they say that those were important they just interpreted them wrong.. so now they say that in 1914 Christ allegedly returned invisibly and became king in 1914 to a future event associated with his judging mankind at the Battle of Armageddon.

     

    Then judge rutherford took over changed their name to JW's around the 40's and started focusing on increasing their numbers. so all in all they have been around 130+ years but only about 70+ in there current form.

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    Originally posted by pneu:
    Where in the helll did you learn how to do math?

     

    There are a possible 1000 combinations. To have a 40% chance of moving up to the 1, 2 or 3 spot you would have to have 400 possible combinations.

     

    Let do this step by step for you since you.

     

    The first combination is chosen, the odds the Hawks get that pick is 11.9%.

     

    Assume Memphis gets the first pick. You then have a possible 750 combinations and the Hawks have 119 of those combinations. Their odds are now 15.8667% of getting the #2 pick.

     

    Now assume Boston gets the second pick. You then have a possible 551 of which the Hawks still own 119 of those posible combinations. At this point the Hawks have their greatest odds of having a winning combination whic would only be a 21.6364% chance of having a winning combination selected.

     

    So please Einstein tell me how you came up with 40%

     

     

    LOL this is so funny...you cant just add them up and say they got a 40% chance of getting one of those 3 spots.... they always have an 11.9 percent chance unless the previous situation happens that i have highligted in red then there chances go up. Because they are only drawn one at a time there percntage only goes up as the balls get taken out and the pot gets smaller.

     

    There is no median chance if that is what your posting. Lets add it up one more time using the calculation above. If there are three drawings that mean atlanta has a total (i'm adding up all three chances as you did)

     

    357 balls out of 2301 Tries that equals 15.5% chance they got to get one of those 3 pics...lol do you own math you cant just add up percentages...you have to divide by 3 if you add up you 12% and 16% and 22%

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    Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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    Originally posted by Nathan Rule:

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    Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery

     

    And I don't think quoting a book of the Bible counts as saying that "Many people believe this study supports the Bible". I'm assuming that Rom 1:20 is a reference to a passage in the book of Romans. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

     

    I was actually quoting a verse in the bible that talks about every person has seen what god has wrought.

     

    19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them

     

    20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities

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    Originally posted by WPMagic:

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    Has anyone ever played that game where someone whispers something and the message gets passed down the line?

     

    Telephone!

     

    Nathan... Another interesting response! Could you post your sources for further reading? It looks like your last post was quoting this:

    http://www.origins.org/articles/milne_originuniverse.html

     

    Yeah same author but i read it under probe ministries...

     

    http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/origuniv.html

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    Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery

     

    And I don't think quoting a book of the Bible counts as saying that "Many people believe this study supports the Bible". I'm assuming that Rom 1:20 is a reference to a passage in the book of Romans. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

     

    I was actually quoting a verse in the bible that talks about every person has seen what god has wrought.

     

    19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them

     

    20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities

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    in response to the COBE mission it supports the theory that god created the universe from nothing...

     

    "Science is often seen as attacking the God of the Bible, but in this case scientific discoveries seem to be revealing God's work. The Bible begins with the statement that God created the heavens and the earth, leaving no doubt that all we see had a beginning and had a Creator.

     

    But by the 1700s many people accepted an earlier theory that Immanuel Kant made more popular. The theory held that the universe is an infinite expanse with no beginning and no end. This fit the philosophy of the time, as people did not want to think that they might have to face judgment by a God who had the power to both begin and end the universe.

     

    In the roaring twenties, Edwin Hubble had begun to investigate mysterious masses of stars called nebulae. Some thought we were all part of one giant galaxy; others thought there might be a whole world of galaxies outside our own. Hubble was able to show that there are many galaxies besides our own. In 1929 he announced we were in a huge universe, so big it would take light billions of years to travel across it. Not only was it immense, but every part was moving away from every other part at incredible speeds, some receding at 100 million miles an hour!

     

    Science, by its very nature, attempts to find the best explanation for observed phenomena. But the Big Bang has drawn an impenetrable curtain across the stage of history. For some this is a frustration: "This view of the origin of the universe is thoroughly unsatisfactory . . . . [because] the origin of the Big Bang itself is not susceptible to discussion," fumes the editor of Nature.(5) But for others, the very impossibility of going behind the creation points to God in a powerful way. "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they (all humans) are without excuse" (Rom. 1:20)."

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    Originally posted by WPMagic:

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    Whoah WP i liked everything you posted until this comment...

     

    if you don't believe that the bible is wholly complete and without error then what kind of god do you believe in? iF he cant deliver a bible complete then how powerful is he? if it full of error then that god isnt powerful enough to even deliver a fully infallable bible to his people. That would not make him omnipotent and so he could not be god. if the bible was full of error it would have been disproved long ago...

     

     

    For example, in Genesis (6:19,20; 7:2; and 7:8,9) God tells Noah to take two of every animal onto the Ark, then tells him to take seven, and finally there are only two on the Ark.

     

    Also, when did Jesus ascend to Paradise? According to Luke, on the first day. In John, no, not till two days later.

     

    I will try to answer these two first then move on to the others,

     

    Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?

    (a) Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, "Today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43).

    (B) No. He said to Mary Magdalene two days later, "I have not yet ascended to the Father" (John 20:17).

     

    A: Apocryphal literature shows that the audience Jesus spoke to, the Jews, understood there to be two compartments in the afterlife: prison and paradise. Paradise, also called Abraham

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    Originally posted by WPMagic:

    A literal, no exceptions interpretation of the Bible shuns me away. People say, well the Bible said this, the Bible said that, and that is the way it is. However, I read my Bible like I read my Constitution... as a living, breathing document. In other words, it is open for interpretation, and more important, growth. The Bible is a combination of books written by many different authors, complied over a long period of time. To say that there were no errors and that the books that were ultimately left out are meaningless seems wrong.

     

    Whoah WP i liked everything you posted until this comment...

     

    if you don't believe that the bible is wholly complete and without error then what kind of god do you believe in? iF he cant deliver a bible complete then how powerful is he? if it full of error then that god isnt powerful enough to even deliver a fully infallable bible to his people. That would not make him omnipotent and so he could not be god. if the bible was full of error it would have been disproved long ago...

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    Drunk let me weigh in here with some thoughts..

     

    You seem well read have you ever heard of Ravi Zacharias or C.S. Lewis or Lee Stroebel? I challenge you to read one of their books if you were inclined to have a more concrete understanding than us tryine to debate atheisim or not. Though i do have a few quotes that might make you interested enough to read more of these authors.

     

    "To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

     

    C's Lewis was professing atheist before he realized that he could just not explain away even the mere presence of some kind of infinite being.

     

    My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water animal: a fish would not feel wet. Of course, I could have given up my idea of justice by saying that it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies. Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist--in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless--I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality--namely my idea of justice--was full of sense. Consequently atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.--C.S. Lewis

     

    also to not believe in any GOd then how can you believe in the difference of good and evil? by whose standards do you judge good or evil?

     

    here is a story illustrating that point:

     

    Student: There is too much evil in this world; therefore, there cannot be a God!

     

    Speaker: Would you mind if I asked you something? You said,

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    The amway arena is the sixth oldest arena in the NBA...

     

    Behind New York, New Jersey, milwaukee, detroit & Sacramento. Madison square garden shouldnt even count since it was built in 1968 with 2 renovations and plans are on the move to build a new one. The palace was built in '81 the other 3 are all built in '88 & '89.

     

     

    One Side note about the Palace:

     

    The Palace changes its address when one of its teams win a championship. For instance, when the Pistons won back-to-back titles in '89 and '90, it was 2 Championship Drive. It stayed that way until the Shock won the WNBA title in 2003 and the Pistons won the NBA title in 2004. With the Shock winning another WNBA Title in 2006, it has been renamed 5 Championship Drive. The Vipers' 1997 Turner Cup championship has never been officially recognized in the address.

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