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Updated so far. 11:07AM CST Let me know if I missed any!

Yes...please...I didn't put Millsap in my list earlier because I didn't think there was any way he would actually come here. Money talks

Give me Aaron Brooks or CJ Watson or Jeremy Lin Give me Quincy Acy or Kevin Seraphin (even though I don't think the Wiz let him go) Give me Landry Fields or Richard Jefferson (good locker room guys who can split time with Mario) Give me Kosta Koufus or Tyler Hansborough Let Harris Walk. Waive Willie Green. PG: Payton/Brooks/Harvey SG: Oladipo/Fournier/Marble SF: Hezonja/Fields/Harkless PF: Seraphin/Gordon/Nicholson C: Vucevic/OQuinn/Deadmon I would look to sign and trade Deadmon & Nicholson for one of the other bigs on the list like Acy, Hansborough, or Koufus I'd be so happy with that but it is probably highly unlikely

The Milwaukee Bucks have released their new look logo. Here is the old: Here is the new: Thoughts? Anyone want a new Magic logo?

Thought this would be cool -- here are all the new acquisitions that teams made this offseason including trades Atlanta Boston Amir Johnson Brooklyn Shane Larkin Thomas Robinson Steve Blake Charlotte Spencer Hawes Nicolas Batum Jeremy Lamb Chicago Cleveland Dallas DeAndre Jordan Wesley Matthews Jeremy Evans Denver Detroit Aaron Baynes Ersan Ilyasova Golden State Houston Indiana Monta Ellis LAC Paul Pierce Lance Stephenson LAL Louis Williams Brandon Bass Roy Hibbert Memphis Brandon Wright Matt Barnes Miami Milwaukee Greg Monroe Caron Butler Shawne Williams Minnesota New Orleans New York Kyle O'Quinn Aaron Afflalo Robin Lopez Derrick Williams Oklahoma City Orlando CJ Watson Philadelphia Nik Stauskas Carl Landry Jason Thompson Phoenix Tyson Chandler Portland Gerald Henderson Al-Farouq Aminu Ed Davis Gerald Henderson Noah Vonleh Sacramento Rajon Rondo Kosta Koufos James Anderson Marco Belinelli San Antonio David West LaMarcus Aldridge Toronto Cory Joseph DeMarre Carroll Bismack Biyombo Utah Washington Jared Dudley Gary Neal So which team (other than the Spurs) do you think has had the best offseason?

Instead of surfing through the Offseason thread - Just thought this would be easier Atlanta Pero Antic (Restricted) Elton Brand DeMarre Carroll John Jenkins Paul Millsap Boston Jae Crowder (Restricted) Luigi Datome (Restricted) Brandon Bass Jonas Jerebko Brooklyn Mirza Teletovic (Restricted) Alan Anderson Jerome Jordan Brook Lopez Thaddeus Young Charlotte Bismack Biyombo Jason Maxiell Jeff Taylor Mo Williams Chicago Jimmy Butler (Restricted) Aaron Brooks Mike Dunleavy Nazr Mohammed Cleveland Matthew Dellavedova (Restricted) Tristan Thompson (Restricted) Iman Shumpert (Restricted) Lebron James James Jones Kevin Love Shawn Marion Kendrick Perkins J.R. Smith Dallas Bernard James (Restricted) Al-Farouq Aminu J.J. Barea Tyson Chandler Monta Ellis Richard Jefferson Rajon Rondo Greg Smith Amar'e Stoudemire Charlie Villanueva Denver Will Barton (Restricted) Ian Clark (Restricted) Darrell Arthur Detroit Reggie Jackson (Restricted) Joel Anthony John Lucas III Greg Monroe Tayshaun Prince Golden State Draymond Green (Restricted) Ognjen Kuzmic (Restricted) Leandro Barbosa Justin Holiday Houston Patrick Beverley (Restricted) K.J. McDaniels (Restricted) Corey Brewer Josh Smith Jason Terry Indiana Chris Copeland (Restricted) Shayne Whittington (Restricted) Lavoy Allen Luis Scola Donald Sloan Rodney Stuckey C.J. Watson David West LAC Glen Davis Dahntay Jones DeAndre Jordan Hedo Turkoglu Ekpe Udoh Austin Rivers LAL Vander Blue (Restricted) Carlos Boozer Wayne Ellington Jordan Hill (Team Option) Wesley Johnson Jeremy Lin Ronnie Price Memphis Nick Calathes (Restricted) Marc Gasol Kosta Koufos Miami Michael Beasley Goran Dragic Dwayne Wade Milwaukee Khris Middleton (Restricted) Shawne Williams Minnesota Robbie Hummel (Restricted) Justin Hamilton Kevin Garnett Gary Neal Arinze Onuaku New Orleans Norris Cole (Restricted) Jeff Withey (Restricted) Alexis Ajinca Omer Asik Luke Babbitt Jimmer Fredette New York Quincy Acy (Restricted) Alexey Shved (Restricted) Travis Wear (Restricted) Cole Aldrich Lou Amundson Andrea Bargnani Shane Larkin Jason Smith Lance Thomas Oklahoma City Enes Kanter (Restricted) Kyle Singler (Restricted) Orlando Tobias Harris (Restricted) Kyle O'Quinn (Restricted) Willie Green 2016 Magic Free Agents Dewayne Dedmon (Restricted) Evan Fournier (Restricted) Maurice Harkless Andrew Nicholson Philadelphia Glenn Robinson III (Restricted) Henry Sims (Restricted) Luc Richard Mbah a Moute Jason Richardson Thomas Robinson Ish Smith Phoenix Brandon Knight (Restricted) Earl Barron Gerald Green Marcus Thorton Brandon Wright Portland Joel Freeland (Restricted) Arron Afflalo LaMarcus Aldridge Alonzo Gee Robin Lopez Wesley Matthews Dorrell Wright Sacramento Derrick Williams (Restricted) Omri Casspi Reggie Evans Ryan Hollins Andre Miller San Antonio Aron Baynes (Restricted) Cory Joseph (Restricted) Kawhi Leonard (Restricted) Jeff Ayres Marco Belinelli Matt Bonner Tim Duncan Manu Ginobili Danny Green Toronto Landry Fields Tyler Hansbrough Chuck Hayes Amir Johnson Greg Stiemsma Louis Williams Utah Joe Ingles (Restricted) Jeremy Evans Washington Rasual Butler Will Bynum Drew Gooden Paul Pierce Kevin Seraphin I'll try to update it as we progress through the signing season. Please comment if I missed one and I'll update it. Red signals they resigned with a different team Blue signals they resigned with the same team

Conner Henry added to the staff as an assistant coach. Thoughts?

Bump as we are days away from Free Agency!! Happy Signing Everyone!! Any predictions of who we aim for?

So...what I'm seeing is: LAL Gets: Cousins SAC Gets: Randle, Clarkson, Vucevic ORL Gets: #2 Orlando likely drafts Okafor or Russell Then trades down for a Vet and lower lottery pick? Like Favors or Faried? Then draft? WCS? Mudiay? Johnson? I also saw on ESPN someone said that OKC, Utah, and Denver all are desperate to move up in the draft? If we were to walk away from this draft with Okafor/Russell, WCS/Mudiay, + Favors? You'd likely also look to trade Payton somewhere for another SF/PF (which I love to kid, so I'm not a huge fan of that idea). I would still consider that a A+ from Henny and Management. However, in my opinion, I don't think we do all of that for Okafor because he isn't the best on the defensive side of the ball which is our coaches mindset. All of this is likely smoke, but it's fun to think about. After a couple of years, I think Henny has come out on top with the Howard trade and then he somehow landed Gordon and Payton last year. This guy has a way of pulling something out of nowhere and we end up on the better end. It's unlikely, but I won't rule anything out!

But didn't Rob make a big statement about not wanting to get too young? Trading your emerging center for another rookie center seems like it is going backwards.

Any package you can think the Magic offer where we could land Jones and not lose out on the trade?

If we traded Fornier for Jones...then officially consider me 100% on the Mario train for tonight... Man I can't wait for the draft. I have a feeling like this one is going to be one of the busiest ones we've had in a LONG time.

Hornets aggressively trying to trade Cody Zeller... anyone interested? Anyone? No? Yeah me either... On a more positive note...Ed Davis is a free agent and I believe the Magic tried to target him last summer? He was their #1, then they went with Patterson, then settled for Frye? I could be mistaken about that though. David West declined his option and will be a FA as well and the dude we acquired in the trade was Mr. Irrelevent in 2013 lol

Magic keeping Jay Hernadez and Laron Profit as assistant coaches for player development Thoughts? Link -- this also eliminates some options for future assistant hirings

Jay Bilas and Chad Ford have a video on ESPN debating who you would pick if you're looking for wings between Winslow and Mario Bilas picked Winslow just because he is a little gun shy to pick a guy he's never seen -- said Coach K compared him to DWade Ford picked Mario said that his height and aggressiveness will make an immediate jump to the NBA Really interesting stuff http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/insider/story/_/id/13098195/nba-draft-chad-ford-jay-bilas-debate-best-wings-draft

^^^^ What he said haha beat me to it.

I looked it up a little bit and the earliest update that I could find was a logo change in 2010. I still wouldn't mind seeing some new unis. It's always refreshing. New head coach, seems like the right time.

Clipps have a new logo too Do the magic need a new logo?

The abuse of their and there in that first paragraph really bothers me haha

Just so we're clear...that post wasn't by me B)

Is that a damn because you wanted to keep him or damn because you think the Spurs will train him up? Or both haha

You are correct sir. JB to the Spurs

You don't consider Anthony Davis a top 5 pick? Terrance Jones probably isn't, maybe top 10. I'd put Brandon Knight and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist as top 5 picks too (maybe top 10 for MKG) I also would say that neither Napier or Lamb are on the same level as any of the guys from KY from a talent stand point...except for maybe Goodwin. WCS isn't a utility player. He will be a 6th man/starter for any team he goes to. I'm not sure he'll ever be an all-star...depends on how well his shot develops. However, I do think he could win multiple defensive player of the year awards. That isn't a guy to snub at just because you've never seen him on a team where they have asked him to produce offensively. I also said in another thread that with as many top 10 picks as we have had in the last few years, eventually you draft for your biggest need and not the home-run. I believe the management believes and still has hope in Dipo turning into our homerun, which is why they drafted Payton and AG around Dipo to compliment him and Vuch. Now they need to draft a 4 to complete their starting lineup. I think the best guy to fit our team with the pieces we currently have is WCS. If we were to trade Vuch for a defensive center, then I would definitely be more pro-Porzingis, however I don't think we'd do that which is why I land on WCS for defensive big and Mario for offensive wing.

You tell me how is my being a Kentucky fan hurting anything? Tell me that there hasn't been at least some interest from other people for guys like Wall, Bledsoe, Cousins, Patterson, Knight, Jones, Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Noel, and even Kanter and Goodwin have turned into promising talent with Randle and Young still TBD. When you have a program who has put that many guys and more in the draft since 2010...why is it a bad thing to be high on that program that has consistently given NBA teams solid talent? Orton? Horrible pick. Lamb? Not as bad as Orton but still bad. Liggins? Not as bad as the previous two, but I do think he could have been a serviceable wing defender at the end of the bench. Marquise Teague? Not picked by Orl, but he wasn't ready. When you have that type of talent all coming from one college team...then you consider that this current years team was better and deeper than all of them...you have to give them attention. I think most of your dislike for WCS comes from the fact that you only look at the stat sheet and don't consider the type of team surrounding him or the type of team the coach is running and probably the fact that you just don't like me because I will be vocal about guys I know personally and have watched every single game of their career vs everyone else on this forum who watched a few games and highlight films. Again, I'll say for the 101st time...you're not going to draft WCS for offense...so yelling about offensive statistics does nothing but make you look like a child. You draft WCS for defense and you didn't even address any of my points about his strengths matching our team's major weakness which is defense. I based my entire argument about the idea that I believe we need to draft for defense and if that is the case then WCS is the man for us. But all you want to do is yell about offense and the rookie stat line of 3 years at 7pts a game. If we are drafting for offense, then I believe Mario is our guy. However, since I believe we are going to pursue resigning Harris, drafting Mario doesn't make sense to me. So I'll stick with my defensive guess and land on WCS.

Again with the rookie level investigation...why is it so hard to imagine that the reason WCS didn't score more than 7pts was because he was never the guy who was asked to score? Please tell me why it is so difficult for you to grasp this... Rookie year -- Noel, Wiltjer, Goodwin, Mays, Harrow -- all offensive options before WCS Sophomore year -- An. Harrison, Aa. Harrison, Young, Randle -- all offensive options before WCS Junior year -- An. Harrison, Aa. Harrison, Towns, Booker, Lyles, Ulis -- all offensive options before WCS So when you are the 5th-6th-7th option...you're going to score less and focus on your craft...defense. You're not going to draft WCS for his offensive game which I have said about a hundred times. You draft him for defense and you develop the offense which the workouts have shown is there, but your dislike for him has blinded you to that.