Soul Bro

For the old school Junkie and the rest of you 80s kids: "I ... I just died in your arms tonight. It must have been something you said. I just died in your arms tonight. I should have walked away. I should have walked away."

I'm glad we have Grant's veteran leadership right now to lead us into the playoffs. We don't need Vince.

How can Grant help us if he is hurt?

Grant gets injured more than we win.

Any specifics?

Where did they go? Are they hurt? I had to watch the Denver feed and didn't hear a thing about their disappearance.

I honestly think Brian is wrong in this article. With Grant's 16+ million coming off the backs, Darko's 5+ million coming off the books, and possibly Keyon opting out of his 3+ million contract for next year, I assumed we would have 22-25 million this summer. That would allow us to possibly resign Darko and Vince ... right? Somebody ask the realgm.com editor guy, please.

quote: Originally posted by SmackDaddy:I've already made arrangements to take the entire weekend off and use my season tix (for the 3rd and 4th time this year) to attend the Friday & Sunday games. I did this solely because I thought I would be witnessing Vince's first couple games in a Magic uniform. Now, I think I might just stay in S Florida and fish. This sucks! I might be going fishing right now to calm my nerves.

I'm on the phone with Junkie right now ... depressed, too.

This is so depressing.

quote: Originally posted by Drain-O:Wow.......Nothing like your GM calling out your mental toughness. In regards to Vince I see where Otis is going. Why risk the future when you can just sign VC over the summer. I also feel the reason he is talking up Ariza so much is that he wants to see how this team truly gels with the young nucleus all together. I am not saying they should not trade for VC it just appears more and more likely they will not. Also unrelated but since I do not live in Orlando does that radio station stream and does Otis have a weekly scheduled segment. 740theteam.com ... Wednesdays at 5 pm

Can't we please at least send Hedo to a dark cave in India or trade him for someone decent. People are writing J-Rich is very available. My nerves are through the roof and I've almost got a side cramp over this stuff. I'm about to start an M.A. group for all of us.

I am blown away at how many of you are contorting Otis' remarks. He never said VC is fools gold. He said what GMs are offering is fools gold. He never said the fans are unknowledgable. Rather, he said he can't just go by polls and make a trade that won't benefit the team. And yes, he did ask Jerry (740 am) if he (Jerry) would trade a 21 year old big for a 30 sg. Fair question, imho. Moreover, he DID say that he, the coach, ownership, and the team DOES have to answer to all of the criticism. My point: Many of you are projecting your anger to anything and everything Magic and it is starting to distort reality.

John, I know you didn't make up the quote. If you look closely, I actually address Solution. Lol.

quote: Originally posted by John the Jerk: quote: Meanwhile I will conclude that what the fans have to say is not very important because they are "JUST fans".-Quote from-Otis! If Otis said this than he's dumber than we've all thought. And Our Franchise now rests in the hands of a complete MORON. THESE FANS buy Season Tickets, Merchantise, if it weren't for the FANS do you think you'd be able to sell your precious advertising. Us FANS pay your Salary you ignorant degenerate. If Otis didn't say this than I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he gets the big picture. And if not he should be working at Fast Willie's Chicken and Waffle stand by this time next week. Love, John the Jerk Solution, he did not say that at all. I listened to the entire interview. You can dislike him all you want, but don't make up quotes.

Alright Smack and MagicmaninMiami, let it die ... please.

quote: Originally posted by lavell12:Here are three trades that gives a real shot: magic: KG and Craig Smith t-wolves: Darko, Ariza, and Grant magic: Corey Maggette clippers: Turkuglo and Bogans magic: 1st Rd Draft Pick (middle pick) suns: Travis Diener pg nelson arroyo sg redick dooling sf maggette dooling pf garnett smith augustine c howard battie outlaw I'd do any of those trades right now.

quote: Originally posted by bhnole:I am with you Adam, we have no one on the wings who is a go to guy right now. Hedo and Grant did a decent job filling that role in the start, but Hedo seems to be sleepwalking (is it the flu?) and Grant's body has AGAIN shown he is not capable of playing an NBA season. Now the news that Brian Hill does not want Vince has me ready to assemble a mob and storm the RDV with torches and pitchforks. I have not heard or read about Brian Hill not wanting Carter anywhere except from Magicman28. I even listened to Buchner on 1080 am this morning and didn't hear that. I want a 2nd source to confirm that this is actually true.

quote: Originally posted by Magicman28:Yes, Ric Bucher did say this. It was on Coast to Coast. Why would I want to make this crap up? If true, I want Hill out of here. Magicman28, I just want further confirmation that this is true. If it is true, I will lose my basketball mind.

quote: Originally posted by Magicman28:Ric Buecher and Mark Stein were both on ESPN Coast to Coast and Ric said that the only team that has offered anything is the Clippers. They offered Cassell, Mobley and Maggette but in the last few minutes offered Livingston instead of Cassell. Ric said to forget about the Orlando rumors because Brian Hill does not want to coach Vince Carter. What is this crap? Where do they get this from? Did Ric really say that about Brian Hill and Vince? Someone else please confirm or deny that he said that specifically.

Junkie, you came out with it. You dirty dog (smile). Hopefully, this "girl" keeps her "confidant" job since she has perhaps leaked info. Arroyo is a big trading piece. Interesting.

Jambo, your trades are on the level of fantasy b-ball ... way over the top. Plus, doing them wouldn't allow us to resign Darko this summer. I like your targets, though. How's this? Orlando Magic Incoming Players Ray Allen Salary: $14,611,570 Years Remaining: 4 PTS: 26.9 REB: 4.2 AST: 4.2 PER: 22.60 Danny Fortson Salary: $6,596,990 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 3.1 REB: 3.3 AST: 0.1 PER: 4.73 Seattle SuperSonics Incoming Players Travis Diener Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 4.5 REB: 0.9 AST: 1.6 PER: 13.23 Hedo Turkoglu Salary: $5,883,600 Years Remaining: 4 PTS: 12.1 REB: 3.5 AST: 3.0 PER: 12.02 Grant Hill Salary: $16,901,500 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 15.1 REB: 4.2 AST: 2.5 PER: 18.17 Rights to Fran Vasquez

quote: Originally posted by allstarme:Here's what I would shoot for: -Orlando Outgoing- Grant Hill Keyon Dooling Jameer Nelson -Seattle Outgoing- Ray Allen Luke Ridnour Mike Wilks I won't share my thoughts on Nelson here, but I value Ridnour as a much better fit for our team. Throwing Mike Wilks in there makes this deal work under the 125% rule. Is Ridnour available? I thought he had a poison pill this year b/c of his new contract. BTW, I like the deal.

From a personal perspective, I think it would be hard for Dwight. But from a business and wins perspective, I think it is the right thing to do for this team and Dwight. Right now, Kidd is still playing like a Hall of Famer. He would instantly make our team so much better. Plus, he knows Brian Hill and the system. And he is a winner and leader on the court. He has been to the top and could show us the way. Regarding the Richardson trade, taking back Foyle would disallow us from resigning Darko or anyone else.

Want Dwight, Darko, JJ, and Trev to develop? How about this: Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Grant Hill 6-8 SF from Duke 15.1 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 31.0 minutes Hedo Turkoglu 6-8 SF from Turkey (Foreign) 11.8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 30.7 minutes Jameer Nelson 6-0 PG from St. Joeseph's 13.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.1 apg in 29.7 minutes Incoming Jason Kidd 6-4 PG from California 14.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 8.8 apg in 37.1 minutes Eddie House 6-1 SG from Arizona State 7.0 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 15.0 minutes Mikki Moore 7-0 C from Nebraska 8.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes Mikki and Eddie have expiring contracts. Kidd is still a masterful pg and shows no signs of letting up. Plus, he could mentor Diener. To clear up more cap space and to get a first rounder, we could do this: Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International 8.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 19.6 minutes Incoming Aaron McKie 6-5 SG from Temple 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes Shammond Williams 6-1 PG from North Carolina 0.5 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 4.8 minutes LA needs pg help for the playoffs. Aaron and Shammond both have expiring deals, too. Overall, this would clear up several more million in cap space for this summer and allow us to hopefully resign Darko. Here would be our line-ups: PG: Kidd, Diener, Dooling SG: Redick, Bogans, Dooling SF: Ariza, Thornton (FSU draft pick) PF: Darko, Battie C: Howard, Gortat How's that, fellas?