Soul Bro

Odom!!!

Marcus Banks and Shawn Marion for Rashard Lewis and Pat Garrity Defense and versatility replace offense

The Nets won't do it. They already have a super SF.

Why would the Lakers want to trade Kobe now? They now have everyone healthy and are performing at the highest level.

A Phoenix Suns Rashard Lewis bobble head

What could we get for Junkie and Smack?

quote: Originally posted by You're Fat, Pat!:Phoenix would probably do this trade...afterall, we all know that Lew would be sick there...knocking down 3s, and running the floor...offensively, he can play the 4 better than The Matrix can...not to mention theyd get a All NBA 1st Team-er to start in Garrity, then they can rest Amare by having him come off the bench... but in all seriousness, i dont think Marion is whats best for this team...he'll only be good if he has one of 4 guys: Steve Nash Jason Kidd Chris Paul Deron Williams hes no good unless hes got an EXCELLENT PG giving him the ball...he cant create his own shot, he relies on other people to get him the ball... Agree to a degree. But if you look at Shawn's #s throughout his career, they have been good no matter what PG he's had. Keep in mind, also, that Shard can't create his own shot, either!!! Overall, we'd be trading offense for defense/boards AND clearing the books of Rashard's bloated deal.

Marcus Banks and Shawn Marion for Rashard Lewis and Pat Garrity Defense and versatility replace offense

Wow. Not only is SVG ripping the team but so is Greg Anthony on ESPN. Anthony says we are too soft b/c we start two SFs, which doesn't allow us to control the paint or the glass. He said we are one of the worse defensive rebounding teams in the league. Looks like Otis' experiment of starting Rashard and Hedo together is fizzling out very fast. Either we trade Hedo or Rashard or one of them needs to come off the bench. To me, it's that simple. And the problem is Hedo is significantly outplaying Rashard right now and has earned the right to start. What will Otis and SVG do? And oh, who is Otis' favorite player after D12? According to various sources, I've heard it's Hedo. How about those apples?

Boy, do the Lewis and Nelson signings look bad right now.

The guy stinks. No thx. PERS of 7, 11 and 8 over the last three seasons just don't excite me.

Otis likes Smith's game/potential (per a friend)

quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro: quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro:According to ESPN, here are Rashard's PERs for this year and the last couple of years: 2007: 15.49 PER 2006-2007: 20.78 PER 2005-2006: 20.04 PER This is why I am disappointed in Rashard's play. Playing in a much better situation here in Orlando, RASHARD'S PER HAS DROPPED OVER 25% SINCE LAST YEAR. This is troubling. Even with limited touches, his play should have significantly improved, not declined. Would you rather him focus on getting his points to the detriment of the team? Seriously... his touches are limited, his play has been marvelous at times, spotty at others, but the overall impact to the team, the record we have so far, that is what it's about. PER is much, much broader than points scored. Do you know what it is/stands for? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=h...nger_john&id=2850240 Yes, it's Holingers little made up overall efficiency rating, and while it gives a picture of overall performace, for the sake of argument, I refered only to points. The point being, he isn't forcing his game. He isn't the go to guy on the team, he isn't carrying the Magic on a nightly basis. His role here is much different than it was on the Sonics. To expect his stats to increase simply because of the contract he signed, or because you want to see improvement from one year to the next doesn't mean it will or even should happen. You also have to take into account things stats don't look at, like the change in his situation, playing predominantly at the 4, a new team, new coach, new offense. He doesn't penetrate for those high percentage shots he used to get in Seattle, is this his fault? Who knows? I personally think its a combination of things, one is his learning the new offense and playing out of position, another is SVG's offense. Rashard even commented after a game that it isn't as easy to drive to the hole here with Dwight getting double teamed because the lane is clogged. There are a multitude of things happening, and I personally would much rather see him play within the structure of the offense instead of forcing the issue. Some people will say he was brought here to score, period. I tend to be of the opinion that he was brought here to help us win games. Could he pick up his production? Could he drive to the hole more often? Is he doing what SVG wants him to do is the only question I would like to know, and I haven't seen anything from SVG ot make me think otherwise. Basketball is a team game, and when evaluating someone's effectiveness, I think you ahve to look beyond individual stats. In this case, I think you attribute a significant amount of Dwight and Hedo's increased production to the addition of Lewis. Can this be quantified? No, it can't, it's opinion based on my observations and beliefs. Predominantly leaning on the fact that Hedo is playing better than he ever has for the Magic and with more consistency. At his age, I wouldn't have expected such a change from year to year. I believe that the focus of the defense more so on Lewis and Dwight allows Hedo to play this way, and Lewis stretching out the court allows Dwight to showcase his talents more efffectively. Uhm... ok, I typed so much I forgot what I was talking about... hope I made my point already, if not, maybe I will try again after another drink. Good post. Obviously, the biggest stat that matters is wins. Yet a good PER reflects good overall efficiency and NOT forcing the scoring agenda. Thus, you can average 10 points and have an amazing PER (i.e. Calderon). Here I expect Rashard to have a PER over 20 with his contract and history. I would guess that he would expect the same from himself, too.

quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro:According to ESPN, here are Rashard's PERs for this year and the last couple of years: 2007: 15.49 PER 2006-2007: 20.78 PER 2005-2006: 20.04 PER This is why I am disappointed in Rashard's play. Playing in a much better situation here in Orlando, RASHARD'S PER HAS DROPPED OVER 25% SINCE LAST YEAR. This is troubling. Even with limited touches, his play should have significantly improved, not declined. Would you rather him focus on getting his points to the detriment of the team? Seriously... his touches are limited, his play has been marvelous at times, spotty at others, but the overall impact to the team, the record we have so far, that is what it's about. PER is much, much broader than points scored. Do you know what it is/stands for? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=h...nger_john&id=2850240

According to ESPN, here are Rashard's PERs for this year and the last couple of years: 2007: 15.49 PER 2006-2007: 20.78 PER 2005-2006: 20.04 PER This is why I am disappointed in Rashard's play. Playing in a much better situation here in Orlando, RASHARD'S PER HAS DROPPED OVER 25% SINCE LAST YEAR. This is troubling. Even with limited touches, his play should have significantly improved, not declined.

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:If we are looking for a vet guy that knows the playoffs and can defend then I say Kurt Thomas, if we are looking for a young project I say Sheldon Williams. I would ship JJ and a pick to ATL for Williams in a minute

Unless Cook somehow wakes up, Otis made a MASSIVE mistake trading Ariza. Why? B/c we took on a substantial contract with Cook and gave up our best wing defender and second best rebounder. Boo. Now if we have to rely on Garrity in our early rotation like we did last night, we are in trouble. I like his hustle but loathe his game. Houston was dreadful outside of Yao last night. We need a PJ Brown guy as our back-up PF, not Pat.

Haslem would be perfect next to Dwight

Our wings are so bad on defense

Why isn't Foyle on Yao??? Awful coaching. Dreadful

Why is Garrity playing? For his defense? This is ridiculous. Almost unbearable b-ball.

What the heck is this line-up??? Awful!!!

Rashard has been disappointing to me and to that massive contract. Yes, he must improve a lot. But I am trying to keep in mind that he is playing out of position and with a new team.

quote: Originally posted by Big L:Shelden Williams is still out there! Still only getting about 12 min a game with Atlanta. Make it happen Otis. He or Zaza would be great. Make it happen, Smack.

This is easy ... Nocioni. Hate his play but would love it on this team.