Soul Bro

Given the poor play of the Bucks, a Milwaukee beat writer suggests they trade Redd: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=703313 What would it cost us to get him? A trade of Hedo, JJ, Pat, Keyon, and a 1st works numbers-wise. However, I think they'd want to dump a bad contract with him (Gadzuric or Simmons). Thoughts?

Pop! There goes Smack!

Or is this the same source from last year?

quote: Originally posted by ThefutureGM: quote: Originally posted by ball junkie:Future, I'm not trying to be facetious(spelling) but this rumor you are passing was posted as such 2 days ago by Soul Bro. The Contra Costa Times was reporting that Arroyo was at the top of their list as far as a back-up point guard. The Warriors are desperate for help there. That's why we already had a long thread trying to figure out trade scenarios with them to try and upgrade our roster. I think that the fact that this deal may go down this week is the big deal and that the offer was made. Is your source a high up employee of either organization or a relative of a high up employee of either organization?

Turbey, welcome!

Unbelievable. I just got on here and saw this wall-hanger thread. Los for Pietrus is junk. Los is worth A LOT more than that given his great play. As indicated a day or two ago, Smack and I are on the same page: JJ and Los for Wright & Pietrus. Throw in Franny and Junkie if necessary.

Hedo is Otis' 2nd favorite player behind Dwight (according to sources). He's not getting traded.

Dwight got to the line plenty of times. As the leader of this team and potential MVP of the league, he can't go 3 for 10. That is unacceptable.

Yes

The Magic are known for being the most family friendly team in the NBA. It is no secret that ownership/management believes in having the "right" guys on the team. This means having the "right" guys on and off the court doing the "right" things. Fair enough, but many media outlets have criticized the Magic for this position for a few reasons, the main one being losing. Would the Magic be willing to take a chance on a not so "right" guy if it helps us win? The guy that comes to mind is Chris Anderson (aka Birdman). A bigger Trevor Ariza who was known for his hustle, he got kicked out of the league two years ago for "drugs of abuse." In January, he'll be up for reinstatement. At the time of his failed drug test, many viewed his suspension as very stiff. From what I've read, he's now clean and has changed his ways. No, he wouldn't start for us but could be the athletic big man we need off the bench. At 6'10'' 230, he is a 29 year old FC who has had a PER (ESPN) around 14-15 his entire career. For me, I hope the Magic would be willing to give up that "right" image for the sake of winning and giving a guy a second chance. Here is to Chris getting another shot and the Magic winning!

Why not? He has an amazing jump shot and could put points on the board!

http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/ci_7848879 Would you trade Carlos to GS? For whom? I think Carlos is much more valuable to our team than Pietrus would be so it would have to be for a lot more than Pietrus. I'd rather trade Dooling than Los but even then I'm not sold that Pietrus would be an upgrade over Dooling. Now if Harrington or Biedrins were thrown into the discussion, my opinion would change. Thoughts? BTW, this other article below suggests that we did have interest in Pietrus over the summer. Hmmm ... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/01/SPQ6U735R.DTL

quote: Originally posted by Dirtdan: quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro:More attacks, please Cadillac Williams sucks, and you suck for liking him. Graham is better. I just shot my bud outta nose. STOP PLEASE!!!!! LOL Oh and I agree... Graham is BETTER.....LOL The Caddy needs to have his tires rotated...... I love Graham. He's always been a pre-season hero and finally got his chance. I am happy for him and the Bucs. He's playing like he's a top 10 back. And, yes, I believe Caddie is done, and I mean done. Anyway, in honor of Graham, I had to post this sig someone created and uses on PewterReport. IMO, it's the best sig ever created. Enjoy.

I really wish they had something outside of Lee that we would want. If people are honest, many people on this board, I believe myself included, were open to trading Turk for Lee (and change) after Shard signed. Kudos to Otis for holding Turk.

Poor Lil' Jason

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:I think you're missing the key variable in this trade scenario Emory... "Isiah". Anything is possible. I'm writing Otis a letter to offer him a car battery and some Big Red to go along with Garrity at this moment. That made me smile. Unfortunately, your trade doesn't include a bad contract so please include the very versatile Brian Cook with your battery, gum, and Trek.

quote: Originally posted by Magicjunky:with Golden State shopping for a pg do you guys think that starting arroyo is just showcasing his skills and upping his value so we can get more in return? Welcome aboard! I think that could be part of the story.

Warlock for Lee, straight up.

quote: Originally posted by VieraFan:A few games back, SVG actually played Redick. He handled the ball very smoothly. Does anyone think he could be groomed into a PG? His D is in question, but face it guys, Jameer gets over powered by taller PGs, and gets out hussled by the smaller ones. He is not the worst PG in the league by any means, but compare his stats, and you wil find out he is middle of the road. We got shooters, and need a better distributor. Looks to me like JJ can pass the ball, and with 8 seconds left, and a 1 point lead, who do you want at the free throw line? I like the idea, though I'm not sure his handle is up to par.

The real reason I want Wright is because of his facial hair. Like Dwight, his goatie reminds me of the Hawaiian islands ... bumpy, uneven, and more than spotty. See pic below.

quote: Originally posted by Skywise316:I don't know exactly how the salary cap stuff works out.. But I think Redick would be GREAT in Golden State. They shoot threes like crazy and are already the worst defensive team in the league. LOL sounds like a match made in heaven to me. Why would you even consider trying to trade Carlos right now? 1. Have you seen this Magic team without him? 2. Have you seen this Magic team with him, even just backing up Jameer, let alone starting? 3. Have you seen Keyon Dooling (not) run the backup point at any time this season!? So you want to trade our borderline PG starter for a guy who can't even crack Golden State's steady rotation. Not Stephen Jackson, not Monta Ellis, not Matt Barnes, but Mikael Pietrus. Not to mention we already have 57 shooting guards on our roster already. Yeah that makes total sense. If this were to happen it would have to be for SGs we already have and/or someone deep on our bench as a salary cap-matching throw in. Redick, Dooling, Evans, Garrity, Cook, heck I'd even trade Bogans before Carlos right now. I wouldn't even think about trading Jameer because his value has to be pretty low right now. You guys with your trade ideas need to think about the other team and what they'd be willing to do themselves. It takes two to tango. Agree. The only way I think we trade Los is to really build for the future given that Los is a UFA this summer. I am not high on Pietrus. I am, however, high on Wright. If he were somehow involved, I'd consider sending Los. The real question is are we true contenders or not? If not, then we probably should trade Los. If we are, then we should hold him. It should be interesting to see if we can resign him this summer either way. *Edit: The real reason I want Wright is because of his facial hair. Like Dwight, his goatie reminds me of the Hawaiian islands ... bumpy, uneven, and more than spotty.

Not that Orlando fans want to read this, but how fun/good will Los look at GS? I think he would flourish.

quote: Originally posted by CarlosDarwin:Stated by quote: It seems that Jameer always plays his best when the odds are against him. If we traded Carlos then Jameer will be the Jameer from last year, where he knew no matter what that Napolean would play him. Plus I really think he is best off the bench. If what you are saying is right, then we should trade "Pretty Boy" instead of Arroyo. At least Arroyo likes to play hard every day, specially when playing before the numerous puertorican fans from Orlando. We should hope "Pretty Boy" keeps playing hard for his job, increase his trade value, and then trade him for a Big PF. Right? At least we know now that we can win without "Pretty Boy" but not without Carlos. Jameer is virtually untradeable right now b/c of the structure of his new contract. He is in the poison pill phase of it given that he is still on his rookie deal.

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1: quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro:I've got a trade that works and would benefit both teams. JJ Redick and Keyon Dooling for Brandan Wright and Michael Pietrus Dooling would give them the back-up pg they need, while JJ would be great in their system. Wright would give us a potential 4 for the future, while Pietrus would give us a defensive GF. Tweaking it a lil bit. Instead of Wright (no way they let him go), we get Croshere or Pat O'Bryant. The only reason I'd do the trade is for Wright. Anyway, I heard Nellie say that Wright isn't going to play this year. I believe that JJ would be better long-term in that system than Wright. Would you do Los and Redick for Pietrus and Wright??? Given that Los is the best back-up pg in the league (not including Calderon b/c of Ford's injury), he has loads of value. Carlos fans, would that even be worth it? Is Wright worth it?

quote: Originally posted by FENDI:Doubt it. I don't think they'll be trading Wright just yet especially for players who can never top Wright's potential. Fendi, not being sarcastic here. There are lots of fans on these boards that think JJ could be a M. Redd in this league. Perhaps Nellie sees him that way, too.