Magicman28
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21 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:This is more of a problem you have than fultz has because he's not really limited at all other than role.
So you think Cliff is not giving him the green light to shoot a lot from outside?
Its not a problem I have because I don’t play for the Magic.
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30 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:Fultz can create his own offense. A team has to pay attention to him on offense. He can do multiple things to impact offense positively.
It's not about a ppg thing.
Danny green is a two way player even though he's never averaged more than 11.7ppg in his career. He executes his role on offense well.
Iwundu doesn't execute in his offensive role often enough. Some games he looks good. Many games he doesn't provide anything on that end. And it's random.
He’s limited for whatever reason. Until that outside game comes along consistently, I don’t view him as a true 2 way or a self creator of offense.
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33 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:Both fultz and Isaac are two way players.
How’s that? JI sure.
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4 hours ago, Fultz4thewin said:How many two way players do you think we have right now?
Gordon
Fultz
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Nah I think they go after defensive players that can do other things, hoping scoring will come around.
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3 minutes ago, magicblue said:I'd settle for a one-way player or two on offense
Right and you can always see if offensive player can improve defensively instead of getting defensive players to see if they can improve offensively.
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2 hours ago, Fultz4thewin said:I think we're probably more interested in two way players. Beasley can shoot but we've seen with fournier what shooting without acceptable defense can do.
People love Russell and people love Beasley but there's a reason Minnesota is 2-8 since the trades and giving up 127 ppg in that timeframe.
Yeah but someone should tell them you don’t need them at every position
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Might make y’all feel better, maybe not...This organization has no desire, no goals, to compete for a ship in the next 3-5 years.
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17 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:Yeah but people gotta vent and this is the place to do it. It is what it is.
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31 minutes ago, TrueMagicFan07 said:I agree. I went "huh"? when I saw that he wanted to win the 3 point shootout. 3 pt. shooting is not what he's good at.
Think it was somewhat sarcastic.
Was probably saying since it doesn’t have biased judges involved in outcome.
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35 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said:We should make a HuGE, out of this world, fan made dunk contest winner trophy and present it to AG. Lets get some funds and get this going!
Agree. The Magic organization should do something. They have the funds.
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Just now, IrishCelticHater said:But it’s no competition, it’s entertainment and Wade is just happy it delivered on that front. *rolls eyes*
Right. Wasn’t like AG didn’t practice most of his dunks beforehand like it was a genuine competition.
He literally destroyed the legitimacy of what needed to be fixed years ago. No one was taking the ASG game seriously especially the dunk contest for years.
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29 minutes ago, IrishCelticHater said:Wells it’s like DWADE says “Just a dunk contest, AG isn’t losing any sleep over it”. Says the guy who cheated him.
Smh...Like he doesn’t know what being a competitor is about. What a clown
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Would be a great ass story if AG came back to The O and balled out. Like ***** MIA.
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58 minutes ago, Big L said:Them agreeing on what scores to give bothers me more than just giving bad scores. They admitted to cooking the books, to conspiring on the outcome. NBA has to figure something out here, this can't be repeated. That means the outcome was orchestrated, but the question is were they conspiring on all rounds or just on the final round? It definitely feels as if wade talked them into it knowing he was going to be the deciding vote.
But this is the modern day NBA where guys talk about the outcome, talk about joining super teams, etc.
A ****show.
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2 minutes ago, ~O~ said:I'm not mad as it was expected. Especially after Aaron Gordon took his shoes off because he knew he'd be screwed if the contest continued. He had 6 perfect scores in a row? Right? He should have won just off that. Yet, it continued. The gateway for him to get screwed opened.
Now..the predictable aftermath is of course is the booming ad revenue you can make off outrage which is what our country does everyday. Of course, South Park made an episode of it. What do you expect? Cycled human emotions.
NBA won’t get a dime from me. I’d buy that shirt just because I hate **** like this but that’s all. I don’t buy **** from NBA anymore.
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5 minutes ago, ~O~ said:The outrage of aaron Gordon being screwed over outweighs him actually winning as it'll boil over to the millions of avenues on the internet.
Definitely gives a burst of internet traffic.
Yeah but it’ll get swept over like everything else in this WWE sport. The NBA is ****. DJJ should’ve given the trophy to AG but he took it of course.
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Hate today’s NBA. So *****ing rigged. All of it. AG won it. Everyone knows it. Jones should have class and give the award to AG and Wade should never be a judge again. Clearly biased.
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1 hour ago, Wilbur said:Julius Randle has gotten more shots per game each year he has been in the league. He is up to 16 a game this year. TJ Warren is getting 14 shots a game and has averaged in excess of 12 since his 3rd year in the league. At 22 Gordon got 15 shots a game and averaged 17.6 PPG. The bet thereafter was that he would improve his efficiency. He did exactly that as a 23 year old reducing his SPG from 3 by 1.5 the next season. Not coincidentally, his PPG went down, but his APG went up by 1.4. This year he is getting even fewer shots.
It is a recipe for an argument of he can't earn his shots vs. his shots are being stolen. Vuc has gotten 16+shots a game in 4 of the last 6 seasons and hasn't been less than 13.7 in any of them. In seasons where he has gotten more than 16 shots a game he is averaging 19 PPG. Gordon's gotten about 13.5 shots a game on average the last 3 seasons and averaged 16 points... playing in an offense suited to Vuc. Vuc is 5 years older and way less suited to a future with an offense built around Fultz, Isaac, Okeke and Bamba. Thus, I'm going with stolen. I d do not want to see Gordon traded for his 25 year old season, watch him get the most SPG he has gotten in his career (like Oladipo did in Indiana when he turned 25) and wonder why he never got that opportunity here (like I do about Oladipo).
Dipo you can give him the ball and let him create. That’s not AG’s strengths. Don’t know what the advance stats say but idk if more shots for him means more wins for us.
They key for Ag isn’t just more shots. It’s the type of shots.
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There’s no way we keep AG and JI.
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Orlando and Phoenix did discuss Aaron Gordon.
Orlando wanted Kelly Oubre Jr., and Phoenix wouldn’t budge. According to a source I trust PHX’s offer was built around Cam Johnson, Tyler Johnson’s expiring contract and a 2020 1st.Per Zona Sports
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15 hours ago, Fultz4thewin said:Vucevic would be just as tradable on a one year 17 million contract. It's the commitment that cuts teams off the list
And what they’re giving up.
When I say no one wants said player, I’m not saying they wouldn’t take him, you’re not going to get anything substantial back.
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2 hours ago, Jay Magic said:I dunno they don't have a good center.. Evan is quite good. Plus our pick. That's a strong package but I hear you. Maybe they wait till Wall is back. What we need more than most is 1 of our guys to become a superstar. I think we have 1 in Fultz and maybe 2 more in Issac and Gordon. Things just take time. We have messed AG about so much. Now he's at his natural position and healthy I think we will see him blow
If I’m Washington, there’s no way in hell I’d trade Beal to a team in the same division for Vooch and Fournier. AG would have to be included.
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5 hours ago, Fultz4thewin said:Would be good for us. We'd be able to trade him this summer
No one wants him
2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
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Sure. Guys like Monta And Wade created offense. I just think at some point we need to actually see him do it consistently to label him that. I also think in today’s NBA attempting and making 3’s is of a bigger importance with that label.