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    7 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    His response wasn’t fine. We didn’t have enough tests, he had already cut the CDC funding by 80%, already had disbanded the pandemic team set up before him, called this a hoax, said it’s under control and the numbers would go down to 0. He didn’t order enough medical equipment, and didn’t order enough tests. 

    We are a much bigger country than Italy and we have are fair share of unhealthy people here. Saying otherwise is completely misleading. 

    South Korea treated the situation better. Everyone is treating patients the same since there is no cure right now besides trying medicines that may work and putting people on vents.  They stockpiled tests (unlike us), isolated those infected, and when those people got sick, they had enough health care personnel to manage them because they stopped the spread early. 

    Draconian measures SHOULDNT have been needed if we took action from December. But we didn’t. And now we’re making up for lost time. 
     

    this is an epic fail by the federal government. 

    His response was fine because it was the opposite of the fear mongering by media. 
     

    I’m not aware of the funding cuts so I can’t comment on that. If it is, then I agree.

    I haven’t nor I am I saying we are smaller country thats full of nothing but healthful centennials drinking açaí and green tea. I’m saying our health care is far superior to the single payer version in Italy and is better equipped.

     

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    9 minutes ago, Just a regular Magic fan said:

    Hopefully, these new quicker tests will help. The goal is to have these ready by the end of the month.

     

    https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-first-emergency-use-authorization-point-care-diagnostic

    Yeah and I expect the numbers to rise a lot next few weeks not because of the virus spreading like crazy like the media wants people to think but because of testing. Then the numbers will start to level out and decrease. 

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    32 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Wait I thought trump was supposed to be at odds with the deep state? Seems like he’s following orders by sounding the alarms

    also your first article is showing why the death rate is higher and why it’s preferentially killing older people...because older people are likelier to have Comorbid Disease . The United States is far from a fit and healthy country. 

    and the reason South Korea is doing better is because they tested form the beginning. we have a complete shortage of tests..I should know, I’ve been sending people to get tested. We are making up for lost time because we DIDNT act quick enough. This whole shutdown wouldn’t be necessary if we actually did the right thing from January onward. Now we’re making up for last time with draconian measures. 

    China notified the government back in December of this. His first response was fine. Just Trump like. It was abrasive to those who are panicking.

    America has its issues but we are not Italy. We do not have the same health care. We also have a large group of the population that eats healthfully, exercises, and takes care of their immune system and unlike China and other areas our sanitation is pretty regulated.

    South Korea isn’t just testing better. They are treating it better unlike Italy and their shady ass healthcare system. And the great thing is, they aren’t even on our level of healthcare and capacity to treat. 
     

    No, the draconian ways weren’t and aren’t needed. Shutting down NBA and such yeah, but a complete lockdown, hoarding all the toilet paper, buying up all the food and water is not. Those articles weren’t written by me. They were written by Virologists, Biologists, and Physicians. I’ll find more if you like.

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    1 hour ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Alrighty, I can take a hint on when someone has already made up their mind.

    If anyone else has any questions on this virus let me know. 

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

     

    https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12/mit-biologist-says-fear-mongering-coronavirus-will-go-biggest-fraud-manipulate-economies/?fbclid=IwAR0b2BzvWboYOM9BHeJ-90d88kUfQPjXb_Y3HaoLSnUayxfD7JOKziUKrlc#https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12/mit-biologist-says-fear-mongering-coronavirus-will-go-biggest-fraud-manipulate-economies/?fbclid=IwAR0b2BzvWboYOM9BHeJ-90d88kUfQPjXb_Y3HaoLSnUayxfD7JOKziUKrlc

     

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-virologist-urges-world-leaders-to-calm-public-slams-unnecessary-panic/

    https://talbotspy.org/letter-from-toronto-an-infectious-diseases-specialist-reflects-on-corvid-19/

     

    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3

     

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-strictly-by-the-numbers-the-coronavirus-does-not-register-as-a-dire/?fbclid=IwAR15ROckQonbwyTr1wW6jW27yDoRIwxIAGmoGmEJWz6vZJ4RVMHDTJqqvNc
     

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/04/more-than-half-of-coronavirus-patients-globally-have-recovered/?fbclid=IwAR35hwY9jYw9mNZwJzwOlk1RxqEbCz_K6hyQaSZ_WilbfjybvC5nCkzx4gA

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/?fbclid=IwAR3wyAxS_UwWznx61CrpesWPP65kMJ1QMl0kYsjSka_CRcFCKrTz32zGhsc

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    Just now, Gordon MVP said:

    It's already started

     

     

     

     

     

    Please stop. You're insulting my friends and colleagues right now putting themselves in danger because were running out of PPE in hospitals all over the US because its getting overwhelmed. You should be ashamed.

     

    There getting pounded not because of the crazy amount of covid 19 cases but because people are panicking when they get symptoms.

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    1 minute ago, Gordon MVP said:

    I've already discussed why we could become Italy, you just aren't listening.

    The reason Italy is in the shape they are in is because theyre hospital system is too overhelmed. They don't have enough ventilators, ICU beds, medical personell to deal with that many sick people at the same time. Again, because you don't understand this concept, your making vague oversimplifications.

    “Right now, the major concern that I have, and that other public health experts have, is the risk of outstripping health care capacity,” said Frieden, who is currently a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations. “This would be catastrophic. It’s what we’re seeing in Italy now, and it’s what we could see in communities around the U.S. soon. -- Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

    “Fauci said the goal now is to "blunt" the curve of confirmed cases, keeping the number of those infected low enough so as to not overwhelm the U.S. hospital system. "If you let the curve get up there, then the entire society is going to be hit," he said.
    - Dr. Anthony Fauci, U.S.’s top infectious-disease expert

    In fact, when you extrapolate John Hopkins data comparing our numbers to Italy’s, their curve looks a lot like ours. So please tell me your opinion on this graph:

    italy_us_gap_10.jpg

    And newsflash for you, our population within the US isn't that healthy. In fact, Obesity is a risk factor for ICU admision and death with coronavirus, and I don't need to put obesity statistics to you. 

    Their hospital system is nothing like ours.

     

    Smoking directly affects respiratory and immune system. Italy has one of the highest smoking populations.

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    24 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Fortunately  that’s not your decision to make: since your clueless about epidemiology. so we probably shouldn’t listen to you. Our medical leaders are the ones trying to contain this. Thats because they understand the serious nature. Again, not keyboard Facebook warriors who watch Alex Jones 

    im sorry but people who speak outside their expertise need to be called out on it.

    id love for you to also knock on Jeff weltman door and tell him how we should be rehabbing Isaac too. I’m sure he’d love to hear your opinion on it 

    What’s not my decision?

    I don’t listen to Alex Jones.
     

    Simple research shows we’re nothing like Italy. They have the largest population of elderly in Europe. They also are one of the largest smoking populations. Their healthcare is nothing like ours. Their culture is different in the way they greet one another. They also have lax sanitation practices compared to ours. I can list a few other things.

    So far you’ve brought nothing substantial to this. Just insults and panic.  Same **** I see from the people buying up all the toilet paper. So far you are the keyboard warrior.

     

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    13 hours ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Well yeah I mean I agree with you that the media hysteria is causing food shortages. But media hysteria isn’t responsible for curfews, lockdowns, and economical depressions. The president and his pandemic team are the ones enacting this. So are the senators and governors. As we know, trump doesn’t give a **** about the media and what they say. So to watch him actually freak out is showing you that this is a very serious problem. 

    And all these consequences are exactly what happens in a bad pandemic — the economy of the entire world is suffering.

    Curfews and lockdowns are there to flatten the curve so the healthcare system doesn’t get overwhelmed like we see in Italy. As we saw in Florida during spring break, some people just cannot be trusted to abide by common sense rules.  This virus in particular has been sending people on ventilators and to the ICU’s rather quickly and we don’t have enough to hospital space in this country ti deal with a ton of people getting really sick all at once. New York is already starting to get overwhelmed. Then we run out of PPE. Once that happens, the mortality rate starts climbing, healthcare  workers start dying, then revolting and stop working  and the mortality rate continues to climb even higher. 

    this is a national disaster with far reaching consequences. There is no way to sugar coat it. 

    We’re not Italy

    Ive been through numerous things. I won’t disclose what I do. I’ve seen a lot. I’ve gathered research before coming to an opinion. There’s not enough here to warrant some of this. And the this I’m referring to is from the citizens who have let media influence this like we’re in the middle of an apocalyptic plague.

    Its an zoonotic virus. We’ve seen them. They’re all different but the panic, the hoarding of supplies, the curfews, lockdowns, is ridiculous.  
     

     

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    3 hours ago, Gordon MVP said:

    That's not how medicine and epidemiology works. Again, another reason why you're misinformed.

    Nobody came to the conclusion that this was a pandemic UNTIL the numbers and evidence started piling in when the virus first started spreading 2nd/3rd week in November. No one just guessed "pandemic!!!!!" and then tried to "confirm their beliefs";  We started seeing the devastating effects on other countries and we ran the numbers. We aren't armchair keyboard warriors like you guys on facebook. We look at scientific facts and testing. This supposedly smart quote really has nothing to do with what we're seeing now. 

    Secondly, I don't know one top infectious disease expert, epidemiologist, virologist that has disagreed. The consensus within the medical community on this issue specifically is quite amazing; especially considering that this community in specific loves disproving one another. 

    So, because we've seen zoonotic viruses before, all viruses are therefore the same? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one. 

    China notified the US government back in December. 

    Look up Professor Jihad Bishara. 
     

    No. All zoonotic viruses are not the same.  H1n1pdm09 was somewhat close to the original H1n1 back in 1918 but had some differences.

    My problem isn’t that we should be cautious of the virus. We should always be cautious with viruses since we are always introduced with new ones we’re not immune to. We should also do daily things to keep the immune system strong.

    My problem is the hysteria that’s causing toilet paper shortages, the food shortages, curfews, lockdowns, economical oppression, and the media that influences this behavior.

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    1 hour ago, Gordon MVP said:

    You are right. The knowledge above me -- from the countless scientists throughout almost every country working on studies/treatments/vaccines, epidemiologists, virologists, infectious disease experts, and other medical professionals -- all seem to happen to agree with me. Papers are being published on this within topic scientific journals at an extraordinary rate DAILY. 

    No wait -- all those people are in cahoots. I must have forgot to attend that meeting to defraud the world. Let's forget all that and listen to the conspiracy theorists who probably have never read an entire book on infectious disease and pandemics. Like I said, you can tell a post from someone who really has no clue about medicine and epidemiology and has no connection to the medical world. 

    Please everyone, I urge you, that if something is not in your field of expertise, you should seek answers from multiple experts and sources instead of just posting your "gut feelings".

    Edit: Also, the Qanon was in response to the poster after you. 

    Maybe you should start seeking out knowledge from those who disagree.

    Smartest man I ever befriended said to me once “If you only seek out knowledge from those who you agree with, you have learned nothing. You’re overindulging yourself with your own ****.”

    I know this virus is different. Not saying it should be taken lightly. I’m saying the fear I have seen is in fact being orchestrated. The way people are responding is a concern (hoarding toilet paper, assaulting Asian Americans, etc) 

    We have seen zoonotic viruses before. 

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    7 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    Oh yeah I’m sure. Being in the healthcare field myself,  double board certified and working in the ICU, I know first hand what you’re saying is BS. Your seemingly unknown field of expertise doesn’t faze me.

     

    and the poster that mentioned Qanon LOL. This is the same conspiracy group that in March of 2019, said mass arrests were going to happen that month  — and that former Hillary Clinton aides John Podesta and Huma Abedin would be indicted on Nov. 3 and 6. Welp, looks that didn’t happen. Trump himself just declared a national emergency and his top pick infectious specialist has been sounding the alarms. This is from a guy that’s actually retweeted qanon posts. 

    But let’s listen to an anonymous poster With dubious credentials instead of thousands of experts on the matter. This is what undermines thoughtful discussion in America. People speaking outside their expertise. I blame Facebook mainly. 

    Your not the cream of the crop. I applaud what you do. There’s knowledge above you however.

    And no, I’m not referring to QAnon.

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    7 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    I dont care what you do, but that sort of statement shows you're far from an expert on virology, epidemiology, and medicine. People need to stop commenting on things outside of their expertise. 

    Every single top expert on the matter would call your statement ignorant, and frankly, its part of the reason the US is in the mess its in, because people arent heeding the warning or taking this seriously enough. 

    If you only knew

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    1 hour ago, hootie249 said:

     After the New York shut down it's pretty hard to see any sports being held this summer. Just about every state is going to follow sooner or later.

    On a pure selfish level it's the worst kind of disaster, forced to stay home and slowly go broke and no sports to talk about. I miss basketball but i really miss baseball.

    It might make sense to have the NBA playoffs in late summer or even early fall but it's not gonna make sense to have baseball this year, i'm pretty sure it's gonna be cancelled. 

    People have let the media scare them and slowly allowing governments take their rights.

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    2 hours ago, ML6 said:

    I want to comment on these points.

    There is a tendency to think that since the mortality rate of this virus is not exceptionally high, the safeguards being taken are out of proportion with the risk. If only judging by mortality rate that might be true, but that alone is not the deciding factor for why it is so imperative to control the spread.

    This virus seems to spread fairly easily per CDC. It exhibits "community spread" which means some people in an area of the infection are unaware how or where they became infected.  Just take Italy as an example, which is showing exponential spread. Three weeks ago today (2/20/20) there were 4 cases total in Italy; as of yesterday there are 12,462 cases. 

    So the problem isn't the mortality. It's that unless the exponential growth curve is curtailed, at some point the prevalence will outpace our healthcare infrastructure, which will in turn put strain on other aspects of society. WHO estimates that 1 in 5 infected individuals require hospital care. How many of those patients will require ICU care (and therefore a ventilator)? For those patients, will we have an adequate supply of opioid infusions which are needed for routine ICU analgesia (fentanyl is already on shortage prior to the coronavirus outbreak)? Will the hospital be able to obtain enough intravenous fluids for supportive care? How will resources be allocated from manufacturers/distributors of drugs/devices? Will visitors be allowed? If not, what plan will be implemented for controlling the grief of family members who cannot be present at the bedside at the time of death? Where do you send people when there are no beds available?

    So it's not the flu. There's a readily available flu vaccine that smart people get annually. That in itself significantly reduces the yearly spread. Also, the mortality rate of the flu is far lower than coronavirus thus far, even when considering that the coronavirus mortality rate is likely inflated (due to the fact that there have certainly been undiagnosed cases since tests weren't available initially).  I get the comparison to the flu, especially amongst young people who will not die from coronavirus, but there's more to it than that.

    I know it originated in China. From what? It’s an animal strain that mutated correct?

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    49 minutes ago, Just a regular Magic fan said:

    With respect, I am not sure why you are busting on Fultz. Considering what he has been through, I think he has come a long way. Recently on the Orlando Magic Pod Squad, AG called Fultz a point god. Those guys know who can play or not, so to me that is heaping a lot of praise on the young guy. It's clear the guy has some skill, plus Fultz is only 21 (Murray is 23) and he hasn't really played one complete season. I think he has sort of hit a wall because this is the most playing time he has had since coming in the NBA. I think he just needs some time and after he gets a complete summer to work on his game, I am confident he will have a breakout season next year. It also wouldn't hurt if he had some better players around him either, so maybe WelHam can do something with that. 

     

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    Yeah I agree. I love traditional distributing PG’s and he’s so good at that. Also got to be happy that he’s starting and hasn’t had to miss games. That’s a big plus.

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    28 minutes ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:

    My question is at which point does his deferment become detrimental to the team as a whole? Again the point of the game is to score points in order to beat the other team. Idc how good a guys passing is if the one receiving the pass can’t make the shot. So if we are lacking in the scoring department why isn’t he being more aggressive and looking to score more to help us win? That’s the part that baffles me about MF. When he decides to be aggressive and attack the rim he’s pretty unstoppable, yet we struggle to make shots and he continues to try and set guys up who aren’t finishing the job. If I were a competent head coach (which Clifford is not) I would be telling MF to be aggressive and attack the rim at will. Defenses will have to either commit to a double team or let Markelle carve them up in the paint. Cliff doesn’t let his players play to their strengths and is infatuated with running the same old boring sets through Vuc and Fournier time and time again expecting different results. 

    See that’s getting into Cliff’s head. Thename’s explanation seems to be the most logical reason. Plus Cliff is really systematic and plays the long term game. 

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    12 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:

    Quantum physics? We're saying you can't really fully appreciate players by only looking at box scores and watching stuff on YouTube here and there. It's like saying you can't really appreciate a television show by reading the Wikipedia and following up with a few key clips. Watching things as they happen in context is really really really important. 

    So much of what guys do on the court isn't categorized into highlight videos. It's fine for seeing how Caris LeVert got his 51 points or how gordon got that game saving block against Brooklyn but not how guys rotate on defense or passes into missed shots or placing big moments in context. 

    You do know you can watch whole games of players right? You can watch them even without the ball in their hands, defense, moving without the ball, etc. There’s a lot more out there than highlight videos and Wikipedia and yeah watching a whole game does give you appreciation but we’re not talking about that and at the end of the day, if you know the game, you can get a pretty damn good idea. 
     

    For instance, when I watch clips of him shooting a 3 compared to a 20 footer, there’s a difference. It’s almost an hesitant delay to it. Looking back at his Washington days, wasn’t much of a delay. There in lies some of my concerns. It’s nothing to stress too much right now. Maybe it’s the TOS. Maybe it’s mental. Maybe just not getting reps in.
     

    My point is you can watch a whole game and not know a damn thing on what to look for. Know a lot of folks who watch every game and don’t know jack. Sometimes it’s what are you observing. 

     

     

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    7 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:

    Wait... You have all these opinions on guys who you haven't watched?

    You can't really understand things from just watching clips

    Yes I can.

    You basically just echoed my statement of his limitations saying it’s due to role and deference to other players.

    I also have asked questions on here but if we are going to turn basketball into quantum physics then I’ll just bow out of this conversation. It’s really not that complex.

    I pay attention to more than clips.

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    42 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    You have said you haven't watched games in years and just watch highlights. I'm having a hard time figuring out where you are getting your opinions from. 

    I pay attention. It’s a sport I invested so much time in for so long growing up. When I say studied it, it’s no exaggeration....Daily like it was a job...On top of playing it religiously every day. I at one point was determined to go into the NBA. Other choices steered me away from that.
     

    Years ago I cut the cord on cable. I have never reupped. Don’t think I ever will. I’m a movie person and like to be out of the house with the fam as much as possible. I pay attention though and while I’m not going to say I am this great scout with some eye, I know game...I know  the game and I do watch clips, not highlights, of certain players. I don’t just watch the dunks and shots, I watch a lot more than that.  
     

    Fultz... dude has potential to be a creator. He’s somewhat already is but is limited either by role or himself or both. He’s a technically a rookie so I keep that in context as will. 

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