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    3 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

    Gordon doesn't fit into the TPE I don't think so I don't think we could do that deal.

    And considering Gordon's making 60m over the next 3 seasons my offer would be 3 + Gordon for 5 + Harris + 33. I'd maybe stretch to the Den 1st instead of 33. I wouldn't give up both lottery picks and take on Gordon. That's a lot of assets and flexibility. We need ways to continue to improve around our #3 pick if he's the star we hope he is. If Bamba moved the needle I'd happily include him but I doubt he would.

    If Houston cares about clearing cap then we can accommodate but it needs to be worth it for us because paying a 34 year old Eric Gordon 21m 2 years from now will not be good for winning basketball games.

     

    Damn. I didn’t know he was getting 21m a year. Houston did that?

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    7 hours ago, Justin Jaudon said:

    Trying to talk myself into the guy: what negatives can we say about Kuminga that we couldn't have also said about Anthony Edwards? What positives can we say about Edwards that we couldn't also say about Kuminga?

     

    Not saying they're the same player. But athletically they're both equally freakish. Edwards' knocks in college were bad shot selection, poor 3pt shooting on too high a volume, and lack of interest on defense. His strengths were freakish athleticism and strength for his position, plus fearlessness going for buckets. Kuminga is as good an athlete, and while he isn't as heavy he seems to be equally strong; I haven't seen enough of him to judge his aggressiveness as a scorer fairly, but he took the most shots of anyone on that GLeague team, including Green.

     

    Again, not equating the two exactly, just wanting to see what kind of responses the comparison gets.

    It’s the other offensive attributes. Kuminga’s offensive awareness is less refined. For what he does, think he’s a guy who you draft at 8 not 5.

    I want Green. Cade was my number 1 but that ain’t happening.

     

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    6 minutes ago, J-Mac said:

    You act like he just picked up a basketball in high school. He’s been playing ball since he was 2 or at least that’s what they say. But kid just needs to learn from film and repetition to stop bad habits. When I think of “real raw”I think of a guy like bismack or giannis when they were drafted. Kuminga definitely got some skill sets under his belt.

    maybe I’m seeing it wrong but you’re going to have to explain to me what you mean “feel for the game”

    Offensive awareness. Overall basketball IQ. He’s a run and jump athlete. Not much of basketball player there right now. Whoever drafts him has to take 2-3 years just to teach him how to play...basketball.
     

    Look, we literally have no one outside of maybe Cole who can get you some kind of offense. Fultz will be out for a while and even he has question marks on his offense. There’s no way we can continue on this path of getting Bamba like players and teach them how to play. Honestly I don’t think Weltman believes we can either which is why he was visibly frustrated.

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    6 minutes ago, J-Mac said:

    Same thing with, steph, trae, wall, Tatum, Ja, Edwards, etc. All of them needed time to get a feel for the game that’s very normal for young players. Not a lot of players can come in like lebron, luka, lamelo, or Zion and have a natural feel for the game.

    His form needs rebuilding? Like lonzo?

    No. Not the same. All rookies have things they got to learn. What I’m saying is Kuminga still doesn’t quite know how to play the game. Those guys you mentioned may have had to learn the NBA a little but “feel for the game” I mean the actual game of basketball. Kuminga is raw. Real raw. 

    You’re probably talking about 3-4 years away from even knowing if he’s a rotation guy raw.

     

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    Just now, J-Mac said:

    He came straight out of high school to the G league. My question is where in his form does it show he can’t improve?

    His form needs some rebuilding to it but it’s not the shot that ultimately concerns me. It’s his iq, his awareness, his feel, that concerns me.

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    2 minutes ago, jmmagicfan said:

    I'm not sure how much his irritation was a reflection on their impression of Kuminga, and how much was just the frustration of once again moving down in the lottery instead of moving up. We have had pretty crappy draft lottery luck over the last 10 years. 

     

    I’m pretty sure it was the fact that again they are 1 pick away from a more polished, immediate impact type of player.

    Weltman never shows discontent. This time he did. 

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    1 minute ago, J-Mac said:

    What does he need “a lot of work on” exactly? His footwork is not top tier but let’s not act like he can only straight line drive like Gordon. He got a couple moves in his arsenal especially going downhill, and all this his ft percentage doesn’t show promise, I bet there’s a lot of players that was like that in the league today. I didn’t go crazy with research but Aldridge and horford shot the same or worse on ft percentage in college and didn’t even attempt threes and were solid players in the league.

    Obviously these are open gym shots but can someone explain to me what doesn’t look promising about his form?

    His shot is very questionable in games because in games have scenarios that an empty gym doesn’t provide. For me it’s other areas of his game that concerns me as him being the pick for us. 

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    8 minutes ago, TreyMachine said:

    You could see Weltman was upset when we got the #5 pick. I don't think they're high on Kuminga. There might be a clear top 5, but there is a gap from #4 to #5 according to most analysts. Will be intriguing to see what can be done. 

    I saw that. Hopefully he can get something done. 

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    5 minutes ago, Babir_9 said:

    Isaac looked awkward in college. He already was dealing with the knee issues. Every time JI drives to the basket or goes for a rebound I have a fear that he gets injured. I am not checking percentages, Kuminga’s jumper, release looks good and better than Isaac’s. He has good potential.

    You really should look at the percentages because that tells quite a bit.

     

     

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    3 minutes ago, og magic fan said:

    He is only 18 and his shot doesn't look that bad.  Uber athletic and finishes well with both hands.  He has questionable shot selection at times but that can be fixed.  

    No that really isn’t something you can fix. Feel the game is something natural that you show throughout high school. It’s what separates the good from the role players.

    Hes going to be a good athlete with some dunk highlights but he’s not going to win you any games. 
     

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    3 minutes ago, og magic fan said:

    I like both of these players more then most on here.  And hey if we are not going to be good the next couple of years we might as well be fun to watch!

    Kuminga can’t shoot and questionable feel for the game. It isn’t going to be exciting. It’s going to be ugly.

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    18 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

    As a little ray of hope: of the best players on the teams currently in the conference finals, one was drafted top ten, and none were top 3. Kawhi and Paul George were both later picks. Devin Booker was outside the top ten and even Paul way back when was just 4th. Trae Young was 5th and John Collins was 19th. Giannis was mid-first round and Middleton was second round. The only top 3 pick having any real impact on these teams is Ayton, the third or even fourth best player on that team.

    Totally different drafts man. 

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    1 hour ago, Jay Magic said:

    To say we have zero stars is not true or false yet. I get your upset. But we have players who could well very develop into stars. My opinion anyway. 

    Name one guy on this team that’s going to do for this team that Luka has done for Dallas.Trae for Atlanta. Steph for GS. No one and Kuminga isn’t it either. 

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    18 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:

    Exactly. Everyone is so pessimistic. It isnt ideal but we are in a strong position. 

    It’s the exact same situation we’ve been in. It would be different if we didn’t have a clear cut number one or a draft like when Kobe came out but this draft is unlike those. You needed to be in the top 3 really, top 4 would’ve still been solid but anything outside that, is just what we’ve always gotten and none of those guys are game changers. They’re solid role players. Same **** different toilet my man.

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    2 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:

    We all need to chill. 5 and 8 is not the ideal situation but its a damn strong 1 also. We have options in abundance.

    The front office now has to do their work and make **** happen.

    For all we know we have stars on the roster already. Its a huge summer all round and i am beyond excited.

    Get the correct coach next...

    Chuma is the 1 i am excited about the most believe it or not.

    These guys have so much much growth to come. 

    We are gonna be excellent very quickly 

    Nah bruh. We have zero stars.

    Every draft there’s that one spot you need to be in to get the game changers. We again are right outside that spot. We are going to be just like we’ve always been and nothing will change until we trade for a star, finally luck into a spot to draft one or sign one.

    That’s just how the game is won.

     

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