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And great example. Now they’re talking about landlines instead of the game.

I think we no longer have a radio crew. They just broadcast Steele and Turner. I’ve listened to some games on Sirius and when they go off on these extended BS tangents you have no idea what is going on. Doesn’t surprise me from Turner, who I consider the worst commentator I’ve ever heard, but disappointed in Steele.

13 points for us in first quarter. They could try passing the ball a bit.

Ross two touches, two bad shots, 0 passes. Sabotaging second unit right now

This one could be ugly

Thanks. That would be terrible sohope it doesn’t happen.

Sorry I misspoke. What happens if both 2021 and 2022 picks fall into the protected category? Do we lose the pick?

What happens if by some unfortunate luck the pick doesn't convey in 2023 either?

I agree but listen to Cliffs post game comments. He was specifically talking about the point guard play.

I also was surprised with Cliffs take on the point guard play. I thought Randle and Mane both played reasonably well. And let’s look objectively at what MCW did before he left in Q2. Recall that we were like 1 for 15 in the first 8 minutes of that quarter, most of which MCW was playing for. Starting with about 9 minutes or so left in the quarter, MCW: Missed a 7 foot shot. Missed a 6 foot shot Turned it over Missed a 4 foot layup Missed a three pointer Now these were all during a three minute stretch, so not only was MCW missing everything, he was hogging the ball and not getting anyone else involved. We didn’t start to score until he left. So again don’t understand Cliffs post game comments about our point guard play being all over the place and not very good after MCW left

Agree with all of that. Would also add that a decent point guard can make everyone else play better and the reverse is also true. It’s not so much about giving Randle PT as much as it is optimizing opportunity for the other four on the floor. Randle has done a steady job of playing point. Not flashy but actually better than I expected.

We all want player development. The question is how to best accomplish that. Throwing the young players out to be obliterated actually retards their development in my opinion. Playing a competitive game like last night while giving everyone some minutes is a much better approach.

When Bacon plays team ball he can be good. When he gets selfish and over dribbles he hurts us.

The way he was playing tonight we’re better off without him. Playing excellent team basketball. I actually think Cliff is doing great considering what he has to work with and how these guys haven’t played together.

MCW way out of control on offense with two turnovers and several bad shots over a 2-3 minute span. No wonder Magic aren’t scoring this quarter.

Let's hope so. I will need to see it happen to believe it though.

All good. I never had any issues of any sort with anything you posted :)

Three point game going into the fourth. Have to admit I wasn’t expecting that. Guess team basketball makes a difference even if you don’t have a dominant star.

Certainly a consummate professional. Only wish him the best going forward. Thanks, Vuch, for your great play and exceptional attitude during your long stay with the Magic.

I have no doubt you’ll still be here after all the time you’ve been part of this forum. There aren’t that many of us “die-hards”. Whether you’ll still be excited by the new start at that point is what I’m wondering. Hopefully it will all work out well.

It wii be interesting to see if you still feel the same way a year from now. Losing wears on people.

LOL. Was thinking the same thing. They might have trouble filling the arena even with a spectator limit of 4K or so.

I agree with much of what you said and also wanted to make changes. I’m not sorry to see Fournier go, for example. I’m concerned with how drastic the changes were, though. It may be harder than many people think for us to become decent again with what we have left. Here’s hoping that I’m wrong.

We've tried to teach people to shoot before. It hasn't worked out that well. Better to draft or trade for some shooters.

Who is going to reliably score on that team though? Will it be fun to watch if our spacing is terrible? We need some shooters to be able to compete and play modern basketball.