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    I agree with you about them being leaders in the community. They just set this franchise back far enough all these years to make me want to dislike them with all the boneheaded decisions they’ve made in the past. I hope they have really learned their lesson and let WeltHam do their job and build this team the right way. 

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    17 minutes ago, Just a regular Magic fan said:

    Who are you talking about? Are the near misses players we passed over or were they taken before we picked? Some things can’t be helped and some things can. I would be concerned about our talent evaluators if we passed over a guy.

    The only draft pick I feel like we missed on and could have gotten better talent was the year we got Mario Hezonja. There were better options available for sure but thankfully for us that management is gone besides the untouchables (Martins and the Devos family.) I agree with you though with the rest. 

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    8 hours ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    You act as if I predicted a death wish upon him. When did a few all star games or a 15 year career become a bad thing? This also isn't some random opinion I pulled out of thin air. He has been scouted (go back a page I posted his draftexpress evaluation) and he lacks a killer instinct whether you want to believe it or not. Again that isn't a bad thing being that there are only a handful of guys in the league that possess it anyways. I want to see every player on our team succeed I just won't over value a guy simply because I'm rooting form him. 

    I see Isaac more as a defensive force with a respectable offensive game. Now if he can get his offense up to par with his defense (which I can see him doing) he will be in the conversation with those handful of guys you’re talking about. Again the guys is young and already trying to define his career is crazy. Especially considering last year was his first full year of playing time. You can’t tell me a guy so young won’t continue to develop. Will he be a super star maybe not but saying he definitely won’t be is being short sighted and unrealistic. Again let the guy play first and develop before projecting him as staying in the league and  getting a couple all star nods. What other people fail to stop and think about his usage is maybe that’s just been his coaches game plans and he hasn’t had a chance to showcase that killer mentality because he plays team ball and wants his team to win. That’s one of the reasons I wanted us not to resign Vuc and somehow trade away Fournier. More touches would become available and we could run more offense through AG and get JI more touches. Honestly he has the most potential on our team besides Fultz and the aforementioned guy hasn’t even stepped on the court for us yet. I see JI taking a big step this year and don’t be surprised if he’s running for MIP next year especially if those 25 pounds of muscle he supposedly put on over the summer rumors are true. 

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    2 hours ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    Was Lewis or Tayshaun elite? Were they superstars? Were they stars? Tayshaun never made an all star team and Lewis made 2. That's kind of in line were I see Gordon and Isaac.

    I've just seen A LOT of Isaac hype recently and I think Magic fans are over valuing him a bit. I get it though. Many of us are so desperate for a star that they are focusing on the young guy with unlimited potential. He just isn't that guy.  

    Coming from a fan just like the rest of us. To say someone is absolutely not going to become something is absolutely ludicrous. The guy is just getting his feet wet and if you watched the games where JI was feeling good on offense you could just see the confidence coming out in his game. If you give the man more touches he’s going to produce more simple as that. To try and say he’s not going to be great in this league based off of nothing more than personal opinion is laughable. Give the guy a chance to at least grow into his body and get consistent playing time and some plays called for him. God forbid we are patient with our players and actually let them develop here instead of on another team. I think too many people are wanting to win the quick and easy way with how the league is trending with all this buddy ball super team garbage. If we are patient and actually develop our players correctly we will be a scary team to beat. I’d rather develop our players and build something the right way than pull these Houston moves and over paying to try and stay relevant. 

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    8 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:

    I mean everyone is. No one can make a definitive statement on him. But for Butler to go out of his way to make comments like this has to carry some weight. Idk why he would put himself out there like that if he didn’t actually like what he saw from Fultz. 

    Agreed! I feel like it was a not so subtle message that he’s nearing returning to 5 on 5 basketball activities and hopefully in the rotation. For him to come out like that and say it with such conviction speaks volumes to where he is with his rehab. I’m excited as ever to see this kid on the court and see how he changes our team dynamic completely. 

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    9 minutes ago, Magicman28 said:

    We were amongst the worst of getting to the basket and to the line for free throws. That’s going to be an issue again this year.

    Fultz is excellent at getting into the paint and drawing contact. If he can hit his free throws at a decent clip 70 % that would get us at least to about average in free throw attempts compared to almost dead last. That’ll give us more points on the scoreboard and we can still defend at an elite level with him on the floor. 

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    24 minutes ago, Magicman28 said:

    He hit a great shot but him as your starting PG with this roster isn’t going to cut it. Last year was probably the best you’re going to see him play.

    I think he can sustain last years play but I do agree I’d much prefer going with a bigger PG that can shoot the 3 and create for himself and the team. That’s why Fultz is so key to all this success going forward. We may already have that player in our roster but we have to wait until he’s actually on the court to evaluate what we truly have. Everything is just speculation until the guy plays. Now if come January he’s still not on the court then I’d have to worry and try and acquire that PG via trade if we want this team to take the next step in the development process. 

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    1 hour ago, All Eyes On Me said:

    As if I had another reason to get his jersey!! I hope T is here until he hangs up the sneaks and then stays on with the organization when he does

    I got an Authentic white home T-Ross Jersey the first year we traded for him. Glad I made that investment and he’s here long term. Gotta post a pic of it later when I dig it out of the closet lol. 

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    22 minutes ago, hootie249 said:

       

         In the end i don't think they do it and the safest thing to do is stand still. Team is locked in as is for the next 4 years.

    Again i believe we are a playoff team and have 4 guys who might break out. Isaac, Bamba,Fultz and Chuma. I think Gordon will get better but this is his last year to show star potential. Somebody in the media said star players always show potential in the first few years, even late bloomers. Westbrook is a 25 PPG guy, we need scorers and an alpha.The league is driven by stars and scorers. Westbrook can defend so he fits our identity and he just needs shooters. I'm all for this trade if we surround him with shooters.

       If we can get Westbrook, Ferguson and keep two of our young guys and two of our shooters it's worth it.None of our guys have shown us anything special.Maybe Isaac, and he should be the untouchable player for us right now. It moves the needle. And guess what if it doesn't work all the big contracts are off the board at the same time. Vucevic, Ross and Westbrook gone in 4 years. I'm betting we are a high playoff seed for at least 3 of those years.Hopefully by then we have a good culture and changed the perception of the league.Right now the Magic are a joke around the league. It was just ten years ago when we were a powerhouse.

       Again we have assets, if we trade the farm, then yeah we suck.But if we make a good trade with an eye for competing right now, why not?

     

     

     

    Westbrook isn’t that good trade though. Only if we don’t have to include anything meaningful like the BIGMF core. I’m all for sacrificing draft picks and Vuc/Fournier for him but that’s about it. He isn’t worth breaking up our team over but would be a welcomed addition if we could somehow pull it off without including those guys mentioned. . 

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    4 minutes ago, Bauncey Chillups said:

    I'm just going to be blunt and say anyone advocating a Westbrook trade at this point just doesn't know anything about basketball.

     

    I get that people are unhappy with Vucevic--I guarantee you'll be even more unhappy when Westbrook is on our team and needs to be paid 46 million dollars at age 35. 

    I agree, I’d rather be upset with Vuc’s contract that’s actually traceable than be stuck with a soon to be declining Westbrook. He also would hate to play here and I’d hate to give up assets for a player that could force his way outta here with the type of leverage players have these days. I’m all for sticking with Vuc until we trade him for D-Lo or another player that can create for themselves on the offensive side of the ball. 

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    9 minutes ago, JJZFL said:

    The problem is that one of the main catalysts for last year’s surprising run was Bamba getting injured and Birch replacing him.  That is unlikely to happen this year, even if Birch is on the team which isn’t clear.  Now everyone is assuming Bamba will be much better this year but I prefer to wait and see it before believing it.  Every summer people talk about how much better some of our players will get the next season, and with one or two exceptions (Isaac being the main one which no one was even calling for before the season - everyone thought he’d be injured again) it doesn’t happen.  

    We were actually pretty bad with the Vuch/Bamba center rotation.  We could potentially go backwards this year.  

    In all fairness I wasn’t on the boards officially when Isaac first came into the league (lurker) but I’ve been sold on him from day one and the injuries to his ankles were the only thing holding him back. He looks to have overcome those ankle issues and has been trending upward ever since he got consistent playing time. If we run more offense for JI this year you will see his play increase in both ends of the floor but especially in his ppg. I see him having all the tools to becoming one of our All Stars on this team. I believe we have a few more on the team as well if developed correctly and given consistent minutes. Anyways this year should be a good one with the continued development and growth of our boys and the continuity with the coaching staff I see us making a jump as a team and fighting for a 4 seed or higher. 

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    49 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:

    Lol, very good point. My emotions made me forget about Ayton

    Lol no worries it’s understandable when you get into desperation mode tryna get rid of Vuc when we could have just let him walk for nothing and this team would have been just fine. 

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    9 minutes ago, Magicman28 said:

    I think they’re going to be pumping out the same damn team every year until they trade for a star.

    I don’t mind the same team if we replaced one or both in Vuc and Fournier. That’s what it boils down to honestly and idk how management doesn’t see that. 

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    Guys after sitting down and thinking about this Vuc nonsense and how we didn’t address the SG position. What if management is trying internally develop our SG of the future. Think about it, why would management sign Aminu effectively taking Iwundu out of the rotation at the SF position. What if we are trying to groom Iwundu into a huge SG? The biggest flaw to his game is that he can’t hit his jump shots consistently right now but what if that changes? Could you imagine a lineup of Fultz, Iwundu, Isaac, Gordon and Vuc (rolls eyes) I bet management is salivating at the thought of putting that death lineup out there. Wes can handle the ball and plays good team defense and his individual D is coming along as well. Idk I just can’t see how management has made all these calculated moves and signings for the last couple of years to all of a sudden change course now. I believe the Vuc signing is gonna be team friendly where we can move him when Bamba is ready. That way we can have the most athletic and dangerous defensive starting 5 in the league. Idk just my thoughts after seeing us not address the G position AGAIN and have Fournier starting for us with the same damn results and the elite PG’s abuse DJ because of his height disadvantage. Love to hear what everyone thinks about this odd possibility lol. 

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    Just now, ML6 said:

    You guys really only see Fournier's negatives.  If he shot at his average this past season he would've been a very effective player.

    He’s not a high IQ player. He makes too many mental mistakes and doesn’t play team ball. He continuously ignores the cutter or the player in the corner for the three. He throws bad pases dribbles our of bounds and chucks up head scratching shots throughout the game. No thanks but I’ll pass on that nonsense. We need teammates who make one another better that’s how you build a strong culture and get FA players who wanna sign here. Sure Fournier hit a few game winners but that’s because he had to make up for the bad plays he made down the stretch. If he played within himself I’d be ok with keeping him but he tries to do too much and isn’t as talented as he thinks he is. 

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    8 minutes ago, Magicpassion said:

    I couldn’t agree with you more. I posted a scenario where we’d pay Vooch 20mil a year for 3 years; our option on 3rd year and a few posters didn’t like it. My question was come up with a better plan, but nothing said was absolutely viable. 4 years hurts a little, but if we can deescalate the contract I would feel better. This front office knows far more then us armchair wannabe GMs. I’d like to move Fournier, but it’s not likely. If we can sign Tomas S or someone who can shoot and maybe create a bit I’d be happy with that as long as TRoss is back. We need shooting, creation and depth. Vooch got exposed because no one on our team is a very good creator of his own shot with the partial exception of TRoss on the second unit, but he usually needs to come off a screen. Vooch needs help! If there was a better move available to us I’m sure our fo would’ve pulled the trigger. It’s one thing to have an idea, but it’s another thing to execute it; you have to have willing participants. 

    If he was a legit All-Star he would create for himself and carry the team. Not disappear and play like a guy whose never seen a basketball court in his life. I don’t buy the excuse he didn’t have help, I feel if we had better guard play and didn’t have to rely on a slow plodding effortless center we would have fared better than we did in the playoffs. People say they don’t know where the offense would come from but we hardly ran plays for anyone not named Vuc or Fournier. Of course nobody else is gonna standout on that side of the ball if they don’t get plays ran for them. Stop tying up money on big men and let’s start getting some quality guards on this team. Can’t sign anyone if you’re tying the money up on an empty stats “All-Star.” 

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    5 minutes ago, New Guy said:

    Put me in the minority...with Vooch. Honestly, I was never the biggest fan, but No one currently on the roster has shown enough to become the next offensive catalyst if he departed. And in reality, Bamba is green and 20, so Vooch being ahead of him for several more years isn’t really a horrible thing. 

    The team responded extremely well to Clifford in year one. To think there won’t be growth going forward is absurd. The team played competitive basketball all year and was one of the hottest teams to close the season. So saving face (re-signing Vooch/Ross) to currently compete, while developing the likes of Fultz, Isaac, Gordon, and Bamba doesn’t sound bad...it sounds like an absolute no brainer. 

    People quickly forget how Orlando Played down the stretch or post all-star break, with the same roster makeup we will have. And Vooch sucked hard in the playoffs, agreed...but damn...did anyone think we would even Be there when the season started? There were substantial strides that were made and we lost to a team that went on to win the title. Our defieciences were apparent against a better opponent. Their defense was outstanding and Kawhi was unreal. But the playoff experience could be extremely valuable for the coach and our players. 

    The sky is falling attitude is a little much at times around here.

    Re-signing Vooch was such an obvious and correct call for the fans to be acting so negatively toward this team now.

    trust me, I’m desperate for backcourt help and can’t stand Fournier, or how he plays...but to chastise an all-star center, who carried the team more than he hurt it, is insanely hilarious. 

    As much as I like the rest of our roster makeup and potential...export Vooch and the offensive offiency would be atrocious. 

    This past team was the best we’ve had in years and trending upward. Such a shame we’re staying the course with the same core. :/

    The problem is, a lot of fans seem to think this team has plateaued perhaps, in its current state? And I can’t see how that makes any sense what so ever. The East is still as open as ever, and Philly could be dismantled as well. Orlando could certainly push for a top 4 seed, and continue the progression this team saw a year ago.

    im not always the biggest optimist, but there is a lot of good things Orlando has going for it. A young athletic team that has immense defensive potential, overachieved for their coach, and steady veteran precense at the G and C positions. 

    Id pump the breaks on jumping ship, because we made an obvious choice in re-signing an All-Star Center

    Couldn’t disagree more with this assessment. Who cares what the guy does during the season if he can’t produce in the playoffs plain and simple. You don’t pay a guy 100 million to just perform during the season and disappear when it matters. That’s the type of money a real All Star deserves. We have been sorely lacking legitimate guard play for who knows how long and management keeps hindering this team with absurd signings like this. I’m more than confident this team would excel without Vuc and Fournier playing on this team anymore. AG is ready for this to be his team and JI is ready for a more expanded offensive role. That can’t be done when we have Vuc having most of the offense run through him. We have guys ready to step up but they aren’t being given the chance. Just ask Bamba what he thinks about all of this. Honestly doesn’t make any sense and any fan that’s behind this resigning is just a casual fan that’s happy we made the playoffs. 

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    9 minutes ago, The Neighborhood Bully said:

    the box scores of the Toronto series don't lie...

    My thoughts exactly.... How are your 2 “best offensive” players going to completely disappear in a 7 game series? I understand it’s your first time in the playoffs but that’s why you’re in the NBA because you can play. Any other player would have watched film and made changes to try and contribute  in different ways for the next game. These two idiots did the same thing over and over again for 4 straight games and that’s why we got embarrassed by the champs. No idea what management is thinking if we have to put up with Fournier and Vuc willingly and being Mediocre for the next 4 years. 

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    1 hour ago, ChuckTaylor626 said:

    Question for the experts and casual fans like me: You are one of our coaches, what one thing (skill, shot, other?) would you have each of our core players (AG, JI, Bamba, Fultz, Fournier, Augustine, Vooch, Ross, and Iwundu) work on this summer to help them take the next step?

    Note: This doesn't have to be all-inclusive. If there is something you noticed about one player that they could work on that would be interesting too. 

    For JI and this team to take the next step he needs to add some serious muscle ala Giannis in order to take his game to the next level. So I would say strength and conditioning for JI all summer and in between testing from that he needs to be putting up a ton of shots and build confidence with that jumper. Bamba same thing needs to add the muscle and need to see him more engaged when on the court. AG needs to improve his handle and continue with the great decision making and also keep focused on the defensive side of the ball. Fultz just needs to play ball and stop letting all the pressure get into his head. Iwundu needs to keep working on his shot and keep improving the ball handling. He can be a good 2 way player if his shot starts to fall consistently. Fournier needs to go and so does Vuc so I could care less what they worked on over the summer. 

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    8 hours ago, Originalticketholder said:

    Love his attitude.  JI and his game should become a nightmare matchup for almost anyone he plays.  At the 3 with his height he should learn to post up smaller defenders by developing a low post game.  Definitely continue to practice the three ball combined with driving to the basket as his ball handling matures.  His 3 ball got better as this season progressed but I hate to see him just standing out there waiting for a pass to take a 3.  His game can be so much better if developed correctly.

    While I agree with you on him posting up smaller defenders it just can’t physically happen yet. Once he starts filling out his frame with constant offseason weight room training, and knocking down those 3’s consistently, plus handling the ball more with actual offense ran for and through him. The Magic will put the league on notice and we will be contenders in the East with the continued development of the rest of our young core. 

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    6 hours ago, MagicOne said:

    I apologize to anyone here who is unable to handle some constructive criticism of this Magic basketball team. I was merely trying to point out that the Magic don't have any chance of winning this series. I was doing it in a polite way with no abusive language or insults. I even went so far as to say that the future is bright in Orlando and that there is plenty to look forward to.

    Anyway I think any reasonable fan would agree with my assessment that the Magic will not win this series. Not being mean or disrespectful. Just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to have one. 

    No you continue with your nonsense and when the game doesn’t fit your narrative you switch over and say you predicted the magic would win the whole time. You’re a troll that has nothing better to do with your time. Most of us have been through those 6 years you mention and never once did we give up on the team like you consistently do every game. It’s fine to state your opinion but it’s not fine to keep regurgitating the same nonsense over and over. Be a real fan and stop being so negative all the time lol. 

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