How much worse is Nelson than CP3?

[AJdaJohnson 0]

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Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:

 

idk maybe the Magic are cursed and receive Vince THEE EXACT SEASON he enters his decline that athletic wings suffer...

 

I don't blame Vince, he probably just didn't get the shots he needed because of our ball-hogging PG.

[VinceCarter4life 69]

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Originally posted by AJdaJohnson:

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Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:

 

idk maybe the Magic are cursed and receive Vince THEE EXACT SEASON he enters his decline that athletic wings suffer...

 

I don't blame Vince, he probably just didn't get the shots he needed because of our ball-hogging PG.

 

+1 love it

[iicybershotii 1]

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

take golden state statistics.

 

throw in trash.

[iicybershotii 1]

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Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

take golden state statistics.

 

throw in trash.

 

And why exactly?

[Secretly Space Jesus 670]

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

Ok, I'll bite.

 

What the **** are you talking about?

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

take golden state statistics.

 

throw in trash.

 

And why exactly?

 

see my post on the last page. Their offense does to guards/wings what texas tech's offense does to Quarterbacks.

[BMP 424]

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

Ok, I'll bite.

 

What the **** are you talking about?

 

What, you mean you have never heard of per minute statistical comparison (AKA PMSC)?? It's on par with the Point Guard efficiency rating over wins over replacement player, using nvAST% (Inverse assist percentage). EFF/WORP and PMSC can be combined into the PMSE/WORPPM (per minute statistical efficiency / wins over replacement player per minute), which is the ultimate formula one can use to statistically prove which point guard is the best.

[Secretly Space Jesus 670]

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

Ok, I'll bite.

 

What the **** are you talking about?

 

What, you mean you have never heard of per minute statistical comparison (AKA PMSC)?? It's on par with the Point Guard efficiency rating over wins over replacement player, using nvAST% (Inverse assist percentage). EFF/WORP and PMSC can be combined into the PMSE/WORPPM (per minute statistical efficiency / wins over replacement player per minute), which is the ultimate formula one can use to statistically prove which point guard is the best.

 

Cybershot's post was especially amazing because not only did all of those stats sound made up, but none of them even made sense given the context of actual stats already posted in the thread.

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

What, you mean you have never heard of per minute statistical comparison (AKA PMSC)?? It's on par with the Point Guard efficiency rating over wins over replacement player, using nvAST% (Inverse assist percentage). EFF/WORP and PMSC can be combined into the PMSE/WORPPM (per minute statistical efficiency / wins over replacement player per minute), which is the ultimate formula one can use to statistically prove which point guard is the best.

 

Cybershot's post was especially amazing because not only did all of those stats sound made up, but none of them even made sense given the context of actual stats already posted in the thread.

 

It seemed that he was talking about PER, but Rose's PER was around 2 points higher than Curry's, and certainly above league average, so I'm still trying to figure what the hell he was talking about.

[iicybershotii 1]

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by iicybershotii:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by gporter:

To be fair though, it's not like Steph Curry has a choice on where he plays, and every team plays 48 minutes... so you can say what you want about pace, and it's not like Steph was the one jacking up every shot, the whole GS team will jack it up if they get a chance.

 

It's true that players don't choose where they're drafted, but it's equally true that one has to consider things like pace and mpg if we're going to make apples-to-apples comparisons of raw stats.

 

Let's do ourselves a favor then and look at Rose vs. Curry in a PER MINUTE statistical comparison.

 

Curry was ranked 19th in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop down from 7th in per game value (6th in cumulative).

 

Rose was ranked 122nd in all of basketball in per minute statistical production, which is a drop from 62nd. In fact, he was actually of NEGATIVE value, meaning he was WORSE than your average player in per minute production on the floor.

 

To be fair, over the last 3 months of the season, Steph was 9th in the NBA while Rose was 100th (and still negative).

 

Ok, I'll bite.

 

What the **** are you talking about?

 

What, you mean you have never heard of per minute statistical comparison (AKA PMSC)?? It's on par with the Point Guard efficiency rating over wins over replacement player, using nvAST% (Inverse assist percentage). EFF/WORP and PMSC can be combined into the PMSE/WORPPM (per minute statistical efficiency / wins over replacement player per minute), which is the ultimate formula one can use to statistically prove which point guard is the best.

 

Cybershot's post was especially amazing because not only did all of those stats sound made up, but none of them even made sense given the context of actual stats already posted in the thread.

 

It's called basketballmonster.com.

[iicybershotii 1]

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes:

What, you mean you have never heard of per minute statistical comparison (AKA PMSC)?? It's on par with the Point Guard efficiency rating over wins over replacement player, using nvAST% (Inverse assist percentage). EFF/WORP and PMSC can be combined into the PMSE/WORPPM (per minute statistical efficiency / wins over replacement player per minute), which is the ultimate formula one can use to statistically prove which point guard is the best.

 

Cybershot's post was especially amazing because not only did all of those stats sound made up, but none of them even made sense given the context of actual stats already posted in the thread.

 

It seemed that he was talking about PER, but Rose's PER was around 2 points higher than Curry's, and certainly above league average, so I'm still trying to figure what the hell he was talking about.

 

Not talking about PER.