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    23 minutes ago, The Boss said:

    Good points. I'm open to the move. Will see how things play out, I'd still rather nab Fultz (think that door closed) or Ball.

    I do not think it is one or the other though.  We could sign Thomas and still trade for Ball or Fultz if they become available this summer or this season.  If anything Thomas could become a valuable trade chip during the season if he shows something and is signed to a reasonable, short contract.

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    So, here is a list of free agents that are still available that should command more than the minimum but may have to settle for the MLE or a portion of the MLE.  Of course, most of these are restricted and it is likely that their existing team matches any reasonable offer.  Of these who do you think we should, if any, tender an offer to and for how much?

    Clint Capela (Rockets may get a discount here with most the money gone.  I am surprised the Lakers did not go after him.)

    Tyreke Evans

    Luc Mbah a Moute

    Wayne Ellington

    Brook Lopez (Um, no)

    Marcus Smart

    Zach Lavine

    Dante Exum

    Jabari Parker

    Nemanja Bjelica

    Jusuf Nurkic

    Montrezl Harrell

    Rodney Hood

    Isaiah Thomas

    Kyle Anderson

    I would be intrigued with Thomas, Exum, Bjelica, or perhaps Ellington.

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    The whole trade and perception that it has to be rushed has to be fabricated by Howard, HWNSNBU, and their people. We have no reason to rush.

     

    If Lopez goes out and signs an offer sheet from another team then the deal is dead. New Jersey could match or let him walk. If they match the cannot trade him until December 15th. If they let him walk they don't have enough salary dollars to trade to match Dwight. Lopez is not going to wait forever. Someone will show interest.

     

    It is too bad Houston offered Asik that deal. If they waited they could have made an offer to Lopez and sabotaged this whole thing.

     

    In fact if the Nets did lose the ability to trade for Howard then other teams may up their offers as there is no way the Nets can sign Howard outright next summer making Howard's threat of only wanting one team laughable.

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    I think this Houston trade could mean good things for us.

     

    Houston still has young players to trade in Parsons, Lamb, White, Jones, Morris, etc.

     

    They now have a lottery pick that they can trade to us.

     

    By moving Lowery for a draft pick they have increased ability to take on bad contracts along with Howard.

     

    I wonder if they will make another push including this pick and offering to take on more dead weight.

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    Ok, thanks. Can one of the salary cap wiz kids on here clear up if they could afford Dwight Howard at this point?

     

    Only via sign and trade with players that were previously on their team. They couldn't offer him a max contract on the free agent market. That is why they are pushing so hard because eventually they will need to re-sign those guys for themselves or another team is going to move in and sign them making it nearly impossible for the Nets to acquire Howard in the future without including one of their current core guys like Wallace or Johnson, which Hennigan would never do. They are going to pay luxury tax but it is still possible for them to acquire Howard.

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    If this deal goes through then Billy King has gone from Otis 2.0 to Exec of the Year in the space of 24 hours.

     

    For those talking about contracts for Humphries and Lopez, apparently for sign and trades, the contract length needs to be at least 3 years with only the first year needing to be guaranteed. Similar to what we did with Wafer. Knowing that, I'd be ensuring that is what happens with both those guys.

     

     

    Isn't this whole thing completely contingent on Lopez AND Humphries agreeing to the deal? I'm thinking both could get longer deals for more money if they hold out. Why would either agree to 3 year contracts where only the first year is guaranteed. Look at what Hibbert and Asik were able to get. Lopez and Humphries have to be salivating after seeing those deals. I just can't see them playing along and I can't see Hennigan signing them for anything but those type of deals.

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    Well no matter who the GM or coach is, I don't really think the Draft should be difficult. I mean you would think whether or not to pull a draft day trade could be tough, but I mean just the pick at 19.

     

    Look at the roster.

     

    Chris Duhon completely sucks and Jameer Nelson could still opt out, it's still at least possible that he goes elsewhere. Gee, unless some player unexpectedly slips to us, we should draft the best point guard available, right? It's time to reload the depth at that position.

     

    I want a new GM as soon as anyone on the forum, but perhaps we shouldn't be quite as worried as we are.

     

    I agree with you if we were only planning to use the draft to pick players. But, historically, the draft has been a great place to make veteran trades. Our team needs major changes to convince Howard to re-sign. It would be a shame to miss an opportunity to change the roster for the better because a general manager was not in place. There appears to be a lot of chatter regarding some veterans with substantial talent that could be changing addresses. Draft picks can help with theses types of deals. What happens if a team takes a player we were high on. Will anyone have the authority to try to trade for that player or purchase additional picks. I really hope someone is in place before next week.

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    I agree to an extent Emory, but some people are making him out to be Otis 2.0.

     

    I'm not suggesting he is that bad. But he did make some dubious moves while leading the Hornets. Here are some of his less stellar moves:

     

    -Drafted Hilton Armstrong 12th

    -Drafted Julian Wright 13th

    -Overpaid players like Peja Stojakovic and Mo Peterson which essentially handcuffed the team financially

     

    Poor drafting and free agency signings are what lead to Chris Paul wanting out. I think Pritchard and others are more qualified.

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    I don't think any of you have done research on Bower. At all.

     

     

    I really do not want Bower here. I think there are much better options. Read the article in this link and let me know what you think. It seems he has already had issues with a superstar. When he was in New Orleans he and Chris Paul repeatedly clashed and Chris Paul became frustrated with Bower for his lack of ability to improve the team. I think if we hire Bower it will be because he is willing to tow the company line and fall into place behind Martins. It certainly won't be because he is the most qualified and exciting candidate. I would wager that Chris Paul has already informed Howard of his opinion on Bower and, given Howard and Paul's relationship, I'm sure it will carry a lot of weight. I think if Bower is hired it is a sign that Howard will be traded as I can't see him signing on long term.

     

    http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2010/07/jeff_bower_and_the_new_orleans.html

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    Point is we either get the man some players he can work with to keep him in Orlando and if we can't find anybody by trades then we need to trade him for valuable players that can keep us competitive. It's just too risky waiting it out to see if he wants to resign with us. Too risky. He's already stated that he would outright sign with the Nets when he opts out so there is no need for them to trade for him. That's just a telling statement to me that he wants out and we might be setting ourselves up to be upset during the summer. I just can't figure out how he thinks the Nets roster is better than ours. So it's all about the big market crap to him. Has nothing to do with winning or particular players to play with.

     

    I think a team with Deron Williams (assuming he re-signs), Marshon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, a top five pick in a stacked draft, and Brook Lopez is probably better than the supporting cast we have. Lopez could be moved for a SF.

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    I really don't want to see Howard leave the team but I am very nervous about New Jersey. Lets say we hang onto Howard beyond the deadline but cannot add a significant piece. In the summer Howard may be able to sign with a team that has Lopez as a trade asset, Deron Williams, Anthony Morrow (who was on Howard's list of players he would like to play with), Marshon Brooks, and a top three pick in the draft. What happens if New Jersey wins the lottery and drafts Anthony Davis. A possible lineup of Williams, Brooks, SF obtained via a Lopez trade, Anthony Davis, and Howard would be formidable for years and years to come. If I were Howard I would sign on and not think twice about it.

     

    Someone talk me off the ledge.

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    You would rather have Tyrus Thomas and Gerald Henderson then a D12 Monta Ellis combo????? LOL.

     

    Clearly you have never watched Ellis play. He does not just rely on speed. I read so many message board myths about the guy posted by guys who don't have league pass and probably watch 2 Golden State games a year.

     

    Usually its like this - he can't play PG, He is just fast, He doesn't play D..

     

    He is an exceptionally skilled guard with a great shot and much better court vision than you give him credit for.

     

    The reason my last paragraph is not raw speculation is because not only do I watch a lot of late night Warriors games, I also know how the Magic would run an offense with a guard like Monta. It would be a much better offense than our current #22 rating we have right now.

     

    Once again, tell me who on the Magic can create their own shot, and then go watch the last 2 minutes of last nights game and tell me we don't need a guy like Elllis.

     

    I'm with Catman on this one. I watch a lot of Golden State games every year and Monta Ellis is underestimated by many of the folks on this board. He can absolutely get his shot anytime he wants and he plays with energy. Aside from Westbrook, Rose, Wade and maybe one or two others he is one of the best guards as far as driving and finishing at the rim. He can absolutely create offense for himself and for others. We do not have a player like him on the team. His outside shot is dangerous enough so that teams have to respect it. His defense has been picked apart a great deal mostly because Golden State never stressed defense until this year. I'm sure he could grow into our defensive scheme. Look, Redick was able to become a decent defensive player so why could't Ellis. Ellis has much better natural gifts than Redick possesses.

     

    Problem is, I don't think we will be able to get him but I would love to see it happen.

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    Don't know if this has been posted yet but..

     

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6tvlr79 - The Magic get what they want, Phoenix can amnesty duhon next season, maybe add in some draft picks, they get an expiring in Rush, and have Nelson for 2 seasons. GSW gets a raw big man with potential in Orton, they can amnesty Turk next season, and either start J-Rich, or have him as a 6th man

     

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6lulop3 - In a seperate trade, PHX gives Minnesota: Grant Hill, Cash, maybe a few 2nd round draft picks for Beasley, Phx gets younger and can rebuild around him, Minnnesota has veteran presence on their bench and can give D.Will 2.0 more minutes off their bench.

     

    everyone's happy, if only this were possible though, sorta sounds like a pipe dream, but eh..

     

    I may be wrong and don't have time to double check it but I believe I read that you cannot amnesty a player that you trade for. I think they had to be on your roster as of December. So, this wouldn't work very well.

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    Uhhmm..A lot of you guys are wrong.

     

    The talks are happening.Of course golden state will play hardball. They want the best deal. Go ahead and pretend it is just PR if that if what you want to do. golden state knows they will not get Dwight. THATS PR!

     

    Le's see if and when they crumble. They HAVE to trade Ellis now. Marc Jackson gave up on him in 3 months, and the team wants Curry to be the focus. They are just trying to regain leverage.

     

    But believe what you want. My buds on here are smart enough to know this is not Otis making PR. I think a lot of people just like to get negative so they don't get their hopes up and I can't blame anyone for that.

     

    This is going to be a fun 2 weeks I think. Let's enjoy it.

     

    Maybe I worded my response poorly. I actually do think these talks are legitimate. Otis has to know that something needs to be done. His job likely depends on it. The PR piece is the fact that we are hearing about it in the press. Otis has pulled off some trades that we didn't hear about beforehand. The fact that this one is being mentioned when it is still in the exploratory stages makes me think the Magic are leaking it to lessen the backlash should Howard leave. The can legitimately say that we went after players X, Y and Z. That is why I think there is a PR aspect in all of this.

     

    I agree with other posters, I just don't think we have the assets to get a player like Ellis, Rondo, or Nash. We have some nice players but nothing that approaches what you need for those types. I hope I am wrong though.

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    Here are two scenarios that could get Monte to the Magic. I know it seems like we are giving up a lot, but in reality we only lose Rhyno, whom we will have to pay this offseason. If Dwight is gone Anderson loses a lot of value. If Monte means keeping Dwight giving up JJ and Rhyno should be easy to swallow. The only hold up I can see is the Hornets not wanting JJ due to having Gordon, Belinelli, and Henry already at the 2 spot.

     

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7uamsr6

    Magic could also throw in future 1st rounder or 2nd round pick to sweeten deal.

     

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=774fwkd

    Here the Lakers would give up a 2nd round pick to Hornets or Warriors to sweeten the deal. Pretty easy deal for the Lakers IMO.

     

     

    By all accounts Golden State wants an all-star caliber player. They have dangled Ellis for Rudy Gay and Iguodala in the past. They have already gone on record saying that they would not trade Ellis for Brook Lopez. I really doubt that Kaman is enough to get them to jump.

     

    In my opinion this trade talk is nothing but Otis fighting for his job and a PR ploy. If and when Howard leaves management can say we did everything to try to win. We went after the guys Howard wanted. He is a bad guy for leaving. The truth is that we don't have the assets needed to get a player of Ellis, Nash, or Iguodala's talent. I wish we did but we don't.

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