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quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Dear god, now not only do we get Paul, we also get Melo? Ah geez. I mean, I can understand messing around with the trade machine, but holy **** hahha i'm with you bmp, i want iggy on our team, and that to me would solidify or team as a annual chip contender. i wish otis would go for him hard, this cp3 is very surreal. iggy on the other hand can be had with the right offer from otis i believe.

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: i can't believe you actually tried making a valid argument for a 3 team deal where we get paul and melo...i just don't understand the mentality of people around here anymore. this +1

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: Originally posted by D12: i think i missed it. what did they say? talks are getting serious with the wizards really? hmmm... i'm really undecided about this rumor-if indeed it is just that. i did not think otis was serious about this.

i think i missed it. what did they say?

stop it with this garbage, did you just forget the celts beat us just a few months back? one year is not going to move them all the way to 6th or whatever. until we beat them, they are better than us. ohh and by the way our CURRENT team is not the much better than our playoff team. infact i don't think were better at all, maybe a little worse. barnes > q rich duhon meh! don't discount the celts. they're proven. we certainly thought they were old, but they outmuscled us and pushed the lakers to 7 games. we got taken out in 5 games to the rightful champs. quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by Kberto: quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear: I just remembered that Big Z is no longer with the Cavs, and unless Shaq changed overnight, it won't be long before he demands a trade to another contender, so they'll be pretty thin up front with only Jamison/Hickson/Varejao/Powe manning PF/C. I'll revise my prediction to 30 wins, good for 10th in the East. Between everyone else sleeping on them, and feeling like they have something to prove now that LeBron is out of the picture, I think they might end up fighting for a playoff spot down the stretch. MIGHT. It would be interesting if they scratched their way in and played Miami in the first round. It might actually happen. The east will have around 6 quality teams (Orlando, Miami, Bucks, Bulls, Celtics, Bobcats, Hawks) but after that it's pretty bad. I think Cleveland will get around 40 wins and fight for the 8 seed. Actually, this is EXACTLY how it'll all unfold in the East: 1. Heat 2. Magic 3. Hawks 4. Bucks 5. Bulls 6. Celtics (would rate them above Hawks/Bulls/Bucks in the playoffs, but that team will not do too well in the regular season) 7. Bobcats 8. Cavs 9. Pacers 10. Wizards 11. 76ers 12. New York 13. Toronto 14. New Jersey 15. Detroit Cavs, Pacers, and Wizards will be fighting for the 8 seed.

i wished we signed him instead of q. rich. maybe he wanted a lot more money than q. hmmm.

Wolves Want Jefferson-Dampier Trade? Posted: 7/10/2010 8:58:00 AM Source: Marc Stein and Tim MacMahon of ESPNDallas.com Dallas Mavericks president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said Friday that he is still "actively" trying to make a trade score with Erick Dampier's lucrative non-guaranteed contract. But Nelson, in an appearance on ESPN 103.3's "Galloway & Company" show, confirmed an ESPNDallas.com report from earlier Friday that there is suddenly a real possibility that the Mavericks will not use their vaunted Dampier trade chip. Sources told ESPNDallas.com that the Minnesota Timberwolves have been urging Dallas to part with Dampier's contract -- and draft considerations -- in exchange for Al Jefferson, who has three years left on his contract at $42 million. Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Head..._27129#ixzz0tIYUotst

quote: Originally posted by mainemagic:Idk how realistic it is, but the more i think about it, the better I thinky Iggy would be for this team. He's everything this team truly lacks: A clutch, defensively minded, swagger-fied slasher with point forward capabilities. Makes me salivate at the thought i hear ya. i want iggy pretty badly, but all we have is rumors. don't get your hopes up

quote: Originally posted by Molecman: quote: Originally posted by D12:wolves want eric dampier. check out my thread i posted The wolves want ANY expiring contract they can get for Al Jefferson. why won't they just take vc and get this over with? solves both our problems right?

wolves want eric dampier. check out my thread i posted

quote: Originally posted by RoBo2002: quote: Originally posted by Magic Fan 3:Good. Why would we want Jefferson? Him and Dwight on the same team is redundant. One is a very good offensive player who can play off the block, but it kinda 'meh' on defense, while the other is a great defensive player who cant leave the low post and is kinda 'meh' on offense. How is that redundant? EXACTLY! having to big guys will almost certainly force teams to throw up jumpshots rather than driving to the glass! they could even take a chapter from each other dwight can learn offense al and Al can learn to play better d from howard.

quote: Originally posted by D12: quote: Originally posted by Magic Fan 3:Good. Why would we want Jefferson? Him and Dwight on the same team is redundant. not good, i want him, and i'm sure a lot of other fans want him too! do you really think otis has not thought about that before even talking with minny? i believe in otis. and i personally do think that adding AL can put us over the hill. howard needs help. one man rebounding and banging all the time is eventually going to wear him down in grueling times. and yes production will go down as well as their stats, BUT we will certainlly have a lot more W's in the win column.

quote: Originally posted by Magic Fan 3:Good. Why would we want Jefferson? Him and Dwight on the same team is redundant. not good, i want him, and i'm sure a lot of other fans want him too!

iggy plays much better d. while vc does shoot better, that difference does not overcome is lack of effort and shot selection. iggy is a better player and i'm sure of most orlando fans would much rather have him here than vc. that said, i know we won't get iggy, but we can all wish.

quote: Originally posted by kwizzle29: quote: [Comment From Ben] The raptors playoff bound? What happens with Turk? Is Odom heading North? John Hollinger: Emphatic no on items 1 and 3. Regarding Turkoglu, it takes two to tango. We've heard inklings that Orlando might have some interest, but Toronto would have take back contracts that are just as toxic so I'm not sure they have the stomach for it. funny thing is my best friend is a die hard laker fan and just told me that he read something like the lakers offered walton and sasha for hedo hmmm...

i want a) cp3/okafor (we can already compete with the heat B) iggy/jefferson c) rip/jefferson i would say we can contend with any of these 3 combos oh and thanks rev for giving magic fans new hopes

quote: Originally posted by Debonair:lol everyone in here is panicking. stan is probably having a heart attack right now. I'm honestly not worried. awesome! i can just imagine!

after hearing the news, i bet otis went straight back to the office! good luck to us

no, i want iggy not him

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C: quote: FanHouse's @christomasson says "talks" between Magic and Knicks on potential sign-and-trade sending Al Harrington to Orlando are "going on"10 minutes ago via web http://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/18073882621 otis, i want iggy over harrington!

thanks for the update rev. rumors is what keeps this board going. out of iggy cp3 al jefferson would be awesome just to land one of the 3. i really like iggy and jefferson! add some much needed attitude to our team now that matt might be going ring hunting!

i have a very vague idea of the financial aspects of contracts/caps/bae/tpe etc. . that said, i was browsing utah boards and found this: The Sheik wrote:Boozer is a base year compensation player. We would only need to take back 12 mil and change. Personally I do not want Pietrius and there is no significant salary relief. With Gortats contract we are likely paying Boozer money for a player(s) that is not on Boozer's level. I would simply like a S&T to Chicago for Taj Gibson, maybe James Johnson as well. Only 12mil? Have you seen our budget lately... We're at 57mil out of a 68mil cap with only 8 players signed (including Hayward). That means we'll need 5 more players for 11mil, and any more we pay double for. By all best case scenario standards, assume we get Mathews cheap for 3 mil, no one offers Fesenko and we keep him at 1 mil, then we have 7mil left to take 12mil worth of contracts.... putting us 5 mil into the luxury tax. At what point did we give Brewer's 3mil$ away to cut back on the tax last season? Answer: To go from 5.5 mil over to 2.5 mil over. There's no way in hell we're being 5 mil over this season. Meaning: There's no way we S&T Boozer unless our trade partner is under the cap or we package in 12mil more in contracts to take back 9.5 mil more (thus saving 2.5 mil on the additions, making the S&T putting us to that 2.5 mil over the tax mark Utah was comfortable paying last season). does he know what he is talking about? or is he just another fan like me?

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory: quote: The Heat has interest in dealing Jermaine O'Neal to Utah for Carlos Boozer or Kyle Korver. The Heat is also in discussions to acquire Brendan Haywood and ship out Michael Beasley's contract. Via Dallas Morning News Reporting at it's finest. Also, that first deal is awful and I don't believe it. cmon this has to be easy for utah, gortat> oneal oneal is a good center, but getting old and a has been

see i don't know. i'm kind of either way on this one, but i do think he is a solid pg, hmm, we'll just have to wait until the season starts. 15 mil for 4 years. hmmm. at least he defends well!

sorry let me clarify, i meant people like alex kennedy. maybe term reporters should have been used instead! my fault